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Teachers Union To Demonstrate Against ABC Commentator
IMDB.com ^ | 2/10/06

Posted on 02/12/2006 12:34:57 AM PST by paudio

The New York City teachers union has decided not to stage a demonstration at ABC's offices on Feb. 14 to protest John Stossel's recent 20/20 feature criticizing the public education system, Stossel said in an email to viewers of the show on Thursday. "They are apparently planning something else," he wrote. "Stay tuned." Earlier in the week, Stossel said that he had been scheduled to receive an award from the union's Social Studies Conference "for the oustanding work which you have done for social causes." However, he said, after the broadcast the union wrote a letter withdrawing the invitation and the award because his program "so violates the democratic principles of open mindedness, fairness and balance we hold dear."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: education; forgetthestudents; governmentschools; homeschooling; nea; private; privateschool; schoolvouchers; stossel; teacherunion; tradeunion; union; unions; vouchers
...violates the democratic principles of open mindedness, fairness and balance we hold dear.

Hmm...Teacher union talked about open mindedness after disinviting and taking back an award after the awardee said something they didn't like.

1 posted on 02/12/2006 12:35:00 AM PST by paudio
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To: paudio


Teacher's unions don't know how good they have it.

They are in for a very rude surprise.


2 posted on 02/12/2006 12:38:41 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969
"Teacher's unions don't know how good they have it.

They are in for a very rude surprise."

I would like to think you're right but I don't see any rude surprises coming to them anytime soon. What makes you think they are in for a rude surprise?

3 posted on 02/12/2006 12:43:17 AM PST by Neanderthal
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To: paudio

Oh, the poor teachers union. Gets its' toes stepped on and you would think that cartoons had been made of them.


4 posted on 02/12/2006 12:44:59 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: paudio

Don't be surprised if Stossel gets fired sometime before the 2008 campign season.


5 posted on 02/12/2006 12:50:41 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: paudio

Didn't see the 20/20 segment where he criticized public education but all I can say is "GO STOSSEL!"


6 posted on 02/12/2006 12:55:50 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Jeff Chandler
I just tuned into the last two weeks of Stossel. Wow.

He slammed the teachers' unions extremely hard for a MSM prime-time TV show.

He also slammed mfg unions the next week for being anti-free trade (to be fair, he slammed pork barrel farm subsidies just as hard).

I think Stossel's on a roll. It's great, even if one might occasionally disagree. I too expect him to get fired, and it would not be for lack of quality, but the opposite.

7 posted on 02/12/2006 12:58:41 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: paudio
his program "so violates the democratic principles of open mindedness, fairness and balance we hold dear." Are these people insane? Do they realize the hypocrisy of this statement? It's simple: get rid of the teacher's unions, get the gov't out of the schools, give parents absolute choice.
8 posted on 02/12/2006 1:00:33 AM PST by Falcon28
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To: SteveH
Hunting of Conservative Thinkers
9 posted on 02/12/2006 1:04:37 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: paudio
Hmm...Teacher union talked about open mindedness after disinviting and taking back an award after the awardee said something they didn't like.

You're not really surprised by this shameless display of hypocrisy by these scumbag teachers are you?

10 posted on 02/12/2006 1:07:25 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SteveH

You've been around here awhile.... Do you happen to remember Stossel's screen name? I remember him posting here a few years ago when he announced a new show he was supposed to get.


11 posted on 02/12/2006 1:10:40 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: paudio

'atta boy John. Kick their @ss!


12 posted on 02/12/2006 1:22:36 AM PST by billybudd
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To: billybudd

I agree with John. I agree with private school vouchers but my father who is a Democrat and an NEA member do not want to hear this. Even though his son me, was sent to a prestigous military academy in VA.


13 posted on 02/12/2006 1:55:07 AM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: paudio

And they don't even see the irony.


14 posted on 02/12/2006 3:54:26 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

As a New York City educator,I would now say the UFT is part of the problem.They have opposed most efforts to improve the bad schools which are in the majority now.In the beginning the UFT was a force for good schools. Now it is atypical trade union protecting its members interests over the interests of the students.


15 posted on 02/12/2006 4:03:53 AM PST by ardara
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To: Jeff Chandler
Don't be surprised if Stossel gets fired sometime before the 2008 campign season.

That could lead yo the biggest opportunity of his life, a weekly show of his own choosing on Fox .

16 posted on 02/12/2006 4:19:19 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who have dementia.)
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To: Neanderthal

Only rude suprise would be a massive exodus to home schooling. Get 10 families and hire a teacher for the year and give her benefits.

Then stop paying property taxes.


17 posted on 02/12/2006 4:49:23 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

"Then stop paying property taxes."


you first. tell me how it goes.


18 posted on 02/12/2006 5:06:04 AM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: kpp_kpp

Mentioned it at a parents meeting a couple of years back when I wanted to have a ten kid home school class. Basically got a bunch of families together and proposed that we pull our kids from school and create a home school for them.

We would pay the teacher salary and benefits as well as a bonus if our kids grades and test scored surpassed those of their contemporaries in public school. Everyone was for it.

Then I mentioned eliminating a percentage of property taxes that we pay for education. The silence was deafening. However, to change the system, there has to be something radical that happens. Can you imagine the media coverage of parents from a school district telling their local board of ed to pound sand? That they are tired of paying taxes for a failed system?

Nahh......


19 posted on 02/12/2006 5:13:22 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: paudio

This is off the topic but what kind of headline is "Teachers union to demonstrate against ABC commentator" when the first line tells us they have decided NOT to demonstrate.

More antique media trickery....


20 posted on 02/12/2006 5:15:42 AM PST by oneofmany (The first amendment was, in part, a federalism provision.)
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To: kpp_kpp

"Then stop paying property taxes."
"you first. tell me how it goes."

I understand what your thinking. I do believe all of us as taxpayers should revolt and stop paying. We are not getting what we pay for and home schooling is working. I'm watching it work with my grandsons and it going very very well. The teachers union is our enemy and it is part of the enemy within that wants to destroy all of us. Yes, there are some good teachers today though they are few and far between, unlike when I went to school in the nineteen fifties. I'm very tired of paying dollar after dollar and getting no results that are good for the money spent. The teachers union's answer for everything that doesn't come out good is just put another school levy on the ballot.



21 posted on 02/12/2006 5:44:30 AM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Then stop paying property taxes. EQAndyBuzz,

EQAndyBuzz,

Try that and soon you will be having court orders being delivered to your door by armed policemen. Resist further and you home will be sold at sheriff's auction. If you are sufficiently resistant you will go to prison or worse find yourself dead.

This is the police power that government schools have over everyone's life.

To those parents who can not homeschool or use private schools, the government too can send out court orders, armed police, and threaten foster care. The same applies here as with property taxes, if you are sufficiently resistant you could find yourself in prison, dead from a police bullet, and your kids as wards of the state.

If you believe I am exaggerating, I invite you to visit the Homeschool Legal Defense Association website. You will find pages and pages of court documented conflicts with the government school educrats. There are a few cases where a parent and/or child has been imprisoned and parents losing custody of their children.

The above IS government schooling.

Government school IS police state interference in FORCING the political, cultural, and moral/ethical values ( this means religion) of the biggest political bully down the throats of resistant parents and children.

Government schools are an assault on freedom of conscience.
22 posted on 02/12/2006 5:59:19 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: JOE43270
We are not getting what we pay for ( Joe)

Joe,

What we are paying for is the indoctrination of children into the worldview of the biggest political bully. The biggest political bully gets to control the political, cultural, and moral-ethical values ( that means religion) of other people's children.

Government schools are an affort to the human right to freedom of conscience.

Government schools can NEVER be neutral. The will ESTABLISH the political, cultural, and moral-ethical worldview of some while actively undermine the most cherished beliefs of others.

If parents and taxpayers resist the biggest political bully's agenda, the government can and does sell homes and businesses at auction and we do have examples of parents and children being jailed and children being made wards of the state. ( Check the Homeschool Legal Defense Association's website.)

The following is an excellent essay on why government schools are unconstitutional on a state and federal level:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter9.htm

Vouchers are not a good idea. They would merely turn private schools into semi-government schools. The solution is tax credits and gradually expecting parents to assume the full cost of educating their own children. Private foundation issuing private vouchers to private schools would take care of the poor. Why not have an "Educational United Fund" drive every year to support philanthropy for the poor.
23 posted on 02/12/2006 6:16:55 AM PST by wintertime
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Can you imagine the media coverage of parents from a school district telling their local board of ed to pound sand? That they are tired of paying taxes for a failed system?
( EQAndy)

EQAndy,

The government school official would the threat of police to enforce other issues:

1) You would not be allowed to do this in a family home. There would be zoning issues. There would need to be wheelchair accessible bathrooms and ramps. The plaster board on the wall would needed to be industrial grade and thickness, emergency lighting and fire sprinklers.

2) There would be food issues. For instance in Maryland day care worker MUST offer the children a hot lunch, of course that would mean a restaurant level kitchen.

3) In Maryland a homeschooling parent is forbidden to teach other families children. It is considered running a private school and ALL the regulation that go with private schooling must be applied to that parent homeschooling another family's child.

Remember: Government schools = armed police, court, and social work power.
24 posted on 02/12/2006 6:30:26 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

"If parents and taxpayers resist the biggest political bully's agenda, the government can and does sell homes and businesses at auction and we do have examples of parents and children being jailed and children being made wards of the state. ( Check the Homeschool Legal Defense Association's website"

I understand your point and I agree with you. The point I'm trying to make is ALL of US have to attack this political bully at the same time and stop giving in to him. We can keep using other forms of getting our young ones educated till the population chooses to do this and when it finally happens the political bully will be weakened. I don't want the children hurt either and when the fight comes WE have to ptotect them.


25 posted on 02/12/2006 6:38:03 AM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: paudio

There is only one solution - encourage your children to disrespect wrongful authority.


26 posted on 02/12/2006 6:49:16 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: paudio
"We teachers demand more rispect!"
27 posted on 02/12/2006 7:37:46 AM PST by pabianice (contact ebay??)
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To: paudio

.

Due to circumstances completely beyond his control, as in...

1 ABC News Anchor suddenly becomes a War casualty

1 ABC News Anchor suddenly becomes pregnant


...suddenly it's:


'The World News Tonight'

...with ABC News Anchor JOHN STOSSEL..?

.


28 posted on 02/12/2006 7:50:39 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Jeff Chandler

If 20/20 is stupid enough to fire Stossel, then I vote for Fox picking him up and giving him a whole hour every week, not just part of an hour.


29 posted on 02/12/2006 8:51:00 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: paudio

I watched Stossel's program and the NEA came off looking like themselves...NAZIS.


30 posted on 02/12/2006 8:54:46 AM PST by sully777 (What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Neanderthal
"Teacher's unions don't know how good they have it. They are in for a very rude surprise."

I would like to think you're right but I don't see any rude surprises coming to them anytime soon. What makes you think they are in for a rude surprise?

In Maine some people are actually looking at and questioning the endless "teachers are underpaid" drivel that the union and their political minions have been spewing for decades.

31 posted on 02/12/2006 10:34:56 AM PST by Fido969
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Re your #19...

Try it alone and you'll have to do your home schooling from your cell.

Good luck.

Try it with 100, and you'll have a redeaux of Waco.
Been nice knowing you.

Do it with 200,000 and we'll have us a bloody revolution.
Not bloody likely, now is it?

Can't say that it isn't about time for one, though.

Alas; No one seems to take the old Declaration of Independance all that seriously any more.


32 posted on 02/12/2006 12:37:21 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: JOE43270

Re #25:

"I don't want the children hurt either and when the fight comes WE have to ptotect them."

So... how many Brigades of Infantry, Artillery, Armor and support staff have you?

Oh; don't forget air superiority, and a Navy with nuclear capability.

When you have all that at your disposal, get back to us, won't you, and we'll all tell the Teacher's Union to go pound sand.


33 posted on 02/12/2006 12:45:47 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: paudio
The best one was the one he did a few years ago on the enviro wackos going to schools and telling the kids President Bush is evil and 95% of the kids said Bush was hurting the environment when actually it's cleaner under Bush.

The wackos schools let the wacko enviro wackos in to start their brain washing on 1st graders !

34 posted on 02/12/2006 12:50:43 PM PST by america-rules
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To: pabianice

Actual bumper sticker; "Texas teachers need higher pay, NOW!" Might have had more effect if it weren't on the bumper of a late model Caddy.

Really want to get their attention, get your local board to demand that any teacher employed by the (insert your district) and residing in the attendance area shall send their school age children to the public school in that area. Some metro systems have over 50% of teachers' kids in private schools. They KNOW where to get a good education, they just don't care to be required to GIVE one.


35 posted on 02/12/2006 12:56:46 PM PST by barkeep
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To: Lancey Howard

No, I did not know he was on FR but if you say he is, I like it all the better ;-)

-s


36 posted on 02/12/2006 1:39:50 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Uncle Jaque

You can go off like that if you want. We all need to start telling these communists ENOUGH is ENOUGH. You and I are AMERICA so grow some and lets get started. We run this country, WE the PEOPLE. If you don't like that and are scared get out of the way and let those of us that are telling the teachers union to shove off get it done. Also NO I don't have the Air Superiority or all the Troops, though I'm a Patriot and an American and I'm tired of being pushed around.


37 posted on 02/12/2006 3:02:52 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: JOE43270; EQAndyBuzz

Believe me, plenty of people "revolt" every month. (My wife is in real estate.)

Others come along, happily pay the tax bill and pick up a house dirt cheap.

Good luck.


38 posted on 02/12/2006 3:16:03 PM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: paudio

Next the teacher's union will burn the Danish embassy.


39 posted on 02/12/2006 3:17:42 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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