Skip to comments.Four years pass, Milosevic still on trial
Posted on 02/12/2006 5:07:28 AM PST by jalisco555
(CNN) -- The war crimes trial of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic enters its fifth tedious year Sunday, and though international interest in the tribunal has waned, it has proved a useful tool in educating Serbs.
"Its greatest reverberation is in Serbia itself," where regional media have brought the crimes to center stage by airing and reporting on the proceedings, said Edgar Chen of the Coalition for International Justice, a group that supports war crimes tribunals.
Milosevic is charged with genocide and crimes against humanity in last decade's bloody Balkans conflict, and for four years, he has dragged out judicial proceedings with his political grandstanding and health-related absences.
The U.N. Security Council established the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in 1993, and Milosevic was charged with 66 counts involving war crimes during the Balkan wars.
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That's because the court hasn't been able to come to the "correct" conclusion.
I agree with you but is Saadam's trial any better? He has been in captivity since 2003, there's no end in sight for his trial.
The Nuremberg experience shows that it's possible to conduct War Crimes trials fairly and expeditiously. I wonder why those lessons have been forgotten.
I was going to ping Destro to this thread but I see that he's been banned. Any idea what happened?
This is classic "internationalism". It's like the U.N., the people there need work. They're not interested in solutions or an end product. Maintainance of their structure and its perpetuation are the main drivers here. If they had numerous people to try it might be different. But if you're Slobo, and you're all they got....you're going to be there a while.
Because the US ran Nuremberg; the UN is running Saadam's and Milosevic's.
Milosovic is involved in a Kangaroo Court trial, The verdict and sentence have already been given, but they cant figure a way to make him look guilty.
The Saddam trial will go on and on, The biggest mistake here was not dropping a hand grenade in his hidey hole.
There is a lesson to be learned. I hope they dont make the same mistake with Bin Laden or the Z-man , be sure they resisting arrest and shoot them.
I didn't realize the UN was running the Saddam trial. Now I understand why it, too, will never end.
Still singing that old tune, huh Incorrigible?
Gimme a "Free Slobo!" just for old time's sake.
The problem is that they'd have to admit how much wrongdoing they ignored by the other sides in the Yugoslav conflict in order to determine that Slobo was the bad guy.
He was one of many players but only he and the Serbian people have been punished while all others have been rewarded handsomely.
The "old tune" you refer to is known as "the truth", Hoopie old boy.
And the rest of the world is learning it. So bad for your side. So bad, so sad.
For Auld Lang Syne!
Forces of freedom on the march! Europe trembles!
Alas, someone, perhaps on this very thread, convinced the management that he should go.
He's out there though. Watching...
And let us not forget Mr. Fusion...
"Dry is good, wind is better."
If you like the Milosevic trial, you'll loooove the Saddam trial.
The lesson one is: "The Religion of Peace will not be denied and NATO will assure it"
The lesson two: "All who resist will be prosecuted and found guilty of crimes against humanity"
The lesson three: "Pogroms against Christians are to be tolerated or encouraged"
Yes. "The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles."
World Court makes a mockery of justice. Where are the supposed hundreds of thousands Milosevic murdered? Nowhere. What did we kill 4,000 Serbian civilians to accomplish? A Muslim vassal state in the heart of Europe.
Because Slobo is not a war criminal.
If we put a Gore, a Kerry, or a Clinton in the White House, we will be signing up our soldiers and Marines for this crap. How would you like to see a young PFC standing before one of these kangaroo courts for "flushing" a koran or some other such nonsense. After all, we have to pass the "global test."
Several of the Nuremberg defendants were aquitted. A properly conducted trial would have ended three years ago and Milosevic would have been freed if your judgment is correct.
Absolutely, spot on correct. It's why we must never again elect a Democrat to the White House.
For the same reason it takes 25 years to execute a mass murderer on death row.
The problem is, these proceedings are all lawyers, all the time. We don't get justice, we get talk. And it's all very highly paid talk to boot!
<< The Nuremberg experience shows that it's possible to conduct War Crimes trials fairly and expeditiously. >>
With Russian "judges," many of them guilty of far worse crimes than those charged, sitting on the bench, the Nuremberg "trials," even had they been those, rather than the political actions they, in fact, were, may have been expeditiously conducted and in the execution of their sentences. But they were "fair" only in that they achieved their predetermined outcome.
For which there is much to be said.
The idea is obscene that Saddam, for example, should enjoy the presumption of innocence and makes mockery of his perhaps two million Iraqi, Iranian, Israeli, Kuwaiti and other victims.
As obscene, that is, as is the suggestion that the political activity being conducted around and to President Milocevic in any way resembles a "trial," its venue a "court" -- or that by way of which its proponents purport to legitimize their silly circus, "Law."
I dislike the idea that Milosevic`s name stand with Saddam`s.
Saddam is a creature of darkness that can be compared only to dark-ages monsters and Spanish Inquisition looks like liberal activist group comparing to his evil deeds. man tortured, killed, orderem mass ezecutions, usage of gas on civile population, tried to build mass-destruction weapons, and a first man who actualy used mass-destruction weapons after WWII, a gas attack.
Milosevic can be held at worst case as a not-so-nice-guy, and comparing that he was Balkan politician, he actualy looks rather good.
Worst thing that is put on his sould is project of "Great Serbia", a accusation written by ICTY prosecution od several hundreds of pages, accusing lines of Serbian politicians from 1800s to 21st century. It is actualy of Serb-intended :"Protocol of Sions", same rasist crap in which Jews were accused and prosecuted for hundreds of years, today "Greater Serbia" concept is made-up for anti-serbism.
Actualy, liberals needed someone to blame on evrything they did stupid.
european ruling classes and politicians needed in past centuries something to put blame and divert public anger from their failiure on Jews, and europeans in 1990es tried to do same to Serbs. They need Scapegoat.
Legal circus in The Hague is an act of historical revisionism of Nuremberg legal legacy. It actually vindicates Hitler. Albanians, Croats and Bosnian Muslims were Hitler's allies, Serbs were Hitler's enemies. They got independent states ofd their own, per Hitler's design.Today, Hitler's dream in the Balkans has been fulfilled and The Hague circus is one of the instruments.
The Hague circus is an antithesis of Nuremberg trials. Guilty of the penultimate crime, the crime of agression were NOT indicted. The ones guilty of the more horendous crimes walked free.
If you need historical paralell, ICTY is similar to Stalin's purges. Arrest first and then manufactuyre the "evidence"
The only difference, Stalin bankrolled his own circus and ICTY is bankrolled by U.S. ($1B and counting), Malesia and Saudi Arabia.
This ICTY scam would be Illegal on U.S. soil.
What nerve. He presumed to mount his own defense and dares to have health problems.
Yeah, right! It has proved a "useful tool" for sapping the morale of the Serbian nation, making them feel that the the guilt heaped upon them by their demonizers is justified, and getting them ready for assimilation by the international fascist EU.
In reality, the Serbs' resistance to the international fascist New World Order and to the international jihad is noble, and serves as a beacon of freedom to us all!!!!
NWO operatives and "human rightsers" like Edgar Chen want to "educate" us here at home as well. They want to make us feel guilty for resisting the demonic attack of the filthy and disgusting "gays" and the feminazis on the very bedrock of human civilization, and for even publishing a few cartoons that might "offend" the islamist fifth columnists among us, and their world jihadist terorist allies. They also want to charge us with "hate crimes" and take us to court and to prison for resisting the vicious NWO/feminazi/jihadist tide.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: Either America flushes the "human rightsers" down the toilet, or America goes down the toilet!!!! Free Slobo, abolish ICTY and ICC, and flush the "human rightsers" down the drain!!!!
In the NWO for some reason it is necessary to convince the victims about their guilt, to persuade them that 2 and 2 equals 5 and to make them to love Big Brother. As George Orwell described in 1984.
Destro, if you're here: Hi.
Justice delayed is justice denied.
How Politicians, the Media and Scholars Lied about Milosevic's 1989 Kosovo Speech
A Review of the Evidence:
Ahhh, the Third Way Socialist "justice" that awaits us. If we can't get a conviction, we'll try you to death.
Anybody who thinks the "international community" should be in charge of anything should be reminded of a.) this trial and b.) "refugee camps" on the West Bank, which have celebrated their Golden Jubilee.
On the other hand, it means lifetime jobs for the lawyers, judges, administrators and other hangers-on at the ICJ and the UN...without ever really having to do anything. About anything...
Was watching a show the other night about Serbia.
The interviewer asked a choir director (can't remember the context) if he was a Christian. The man got a frightened look on his face and said that is a political question, and he would not answer it on record.
This is what NATO brought us.
Yup, even after Theo vanGogh, 7/7, the French car-baques, and the cartoon war, the Euroweenies are still trying to feed Milosevic to the Muslim crocodile in hopes of being eaten last.
Of course, it's not like Bush got it, that Islam is our enemy, and changed course in the Balkans either.
No, no. You're being too far-fetched. There's no way he'll die before the verdict.
Just FYI. The United Nations has nothing to do with the Saddam trial. It is purely an Iraqi matter and the trial is being run under guidelines set up by the U.S.-backed Coalition Provisional Authority TAL
Milosevic has died.
Glad to hear that. At least we'll have a verdict before the end of the decade.
Yes. It was a joke.
He should get a medal for killing some muslims.
But this is a conundrum - HE DID NOT. He talked tough but he wanted to please everyone - UN, EU, NATO, Muslims. In the process he abandoned Serbs in Krayina(Krajina)/Croatia, in Bosnia and in the end in Kosovo. (Not that he had much choice - little Serbia could not stand up to the mightiest military alliance in history).
And the persecutors of Serbia had to vilify him and other Serbian leaders in order to justify their mendacity. The "free" media did their job very well.
Milosevic was just a typical wishy washy post-Communist leader who wanted to be accepted in the exclusive "demcratic" club of International Community. But he had bad luck of being leader of a country chosen to be destroyed on the altar of New World Order.
On the other hand the Providence gave him the chance of achieving greatness by forcing him to fight singlehandly against the total lie. (Such honor was given earkier to other Commies in another show trial after Reichstag Fire.) Let us hope this will atone for his sins and former godlessness.