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The New York Times breaks silence
Powerline ^ | 02/12/2006 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 02/12/2006 6:39:05 AM PST by tsmith130

In today's article on the investigation of the leaks underlying the New York Times's December 16 disclosure of the NSA terrorist surveillance program, the Times finally acknowledges its own legal jeopardy:

[C]onservatives have attacked the disclosure of classified information as an illegal act, demanding a vigorous investigative effort to find and prosecute whoever disclosed classified information. An upcoming article in Commentary magazine suggests that the newspaper may be prosecuted for violations of the Espionage Act and says, "What The New York Times has done is nothing less than to compromise the centerpiece of our defensive efforts in the war on terrorism." Unfortunately, however: Bill Keller, executive editor of The Times, said no one at the paper had been contacted in connection with the investigation, and he defended the paper's reporting.

"Before running the story we gave long and sober consideration to the administration's contention that disclosing the program would damage the country's counterterrorism efforts," Mr. Keller said. "We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security."

Here's hoping the adminstration finds the intestinal fortitude to seek to convince a jury of Keller's peers.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: espionage; espionageact; hinderaker; homelandsecurity; jamesrisen; leaks; looselips; nsa; nyt; saboteurs; spying; traitormedia; treason
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Here's hoping is right!
1 posted on 02/12/2006 6:39:06 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: tsmith130

"Conservatives"????

How about "Federal Prosecutors"!?!?


2 posted on 02/12/2006 6:41:07 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: tsmith130
"We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security."

I'll remember that during the next act of terrorism on U.S. soil.


3 posted on 02/12/2006 6:43:29 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: tsmith130
We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security.

I was not convinced then, and I'm not convinced now, that robbing the bank because I needed the money was wrong.

4 posted on 02/12/2006 6:43:40 AM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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Be carefull, those pink things in the sky are really pigs, and yes, they are flying today. Not only do thay admit it, but once again in the wonderful model of Mary Mapes, they still don't think that it effected National Security...THANK GOD for the fact that THEY DECIDED what is best for the other 300 million Americans...Sick, disgusting, immoral and seditionists...


5 posted on 02/12/2006 6:44:16 AM PST by mhuye (http://theonewhoislost.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jim Noble

Exactly.


6 posted on 02/12/2006 6:44:46 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: tsmith130

They should be out of business for it. Treason.


7 posted on 02/12/2006 6:44:49 AM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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To: tsmith130

Yes, and they may have to pursue some congressmen or senators too!


8 posted on 02/12/2006 6:44:56 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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To: Paloma_55

The only the general public will realize we are in a war for our lives is when we take action, serious action against treasonous events. If reporters. operatives, and a senator or two face long prison sentences and receive them, people will begin to understand.

Republican or Democrat, anyone involved in these disclosures should serve serious time in jail.


9 posted on 02/12/2006 6:45:47 AM PST by paguch
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To: Paloma_55

Hello? The law requires that the leaks be investigated, not conservatives.


10 posted on 02/12/2006 6:47:24 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: tsmith130
Well that's comforting, Bill Keller, newspaper idiot with no idea of national security, says they didn't jeopardize national security. sarc
11 posted on 02/12/2006 6:47:59 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: tsmith130
... and there arose a great chorus of moonbats, chanting "Chill !, Chill !", and the great disturbance in the force was ignored with a yawn, as the usual suspects, bawling and squalling, were dragged away to their impending fate...

[last line of the book "Press Wars: Revenge of the truth"]


12 posted on 02/12/2006 6:48:31 AM PST by xcamel (One should hope Global Dumbing is reversible.)
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To: darkwing104

Guess we won't hear a whimper when the NYT is incinerated.


13 posted on 02/12/2006 6:48:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: tsmith130
Gee whiz, guys, I'm convinced that the New York Times damaged our national interest and endangered our people and our military in the field.

Wonder if any of these putzes would be willing to duke it out in Central Park early some Sunday morning?

Bet not ~ the whole lot of them are cowards and traitors.

14 posted on 02/12/2006 6:49:12 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: tsmith130

Charge, try and convict Pinch and his cohorts. Publishing our intelligence secrets certainly is more harmful than anything Scooter Libby did. They all need to do jail time and the NYT needs to be fined out of existence for breeching national security for the rest of the nation during wartime.


15 posted on 02/12/2006 6:49:36 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Not just Pinch, but selected executives who manage institutional funds that have New York Times stock in their portfolios.

Let's spread the damage to all the sectors of society who conspired, knowingly or otherwise, in this treachery.

16 posted on 02/12/2006 6:51:15 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: tsmith130

What does it take to get through to these dunderheads? Wild-eyed Muslims renting a van, filling it with fertilizer, etc., and parking it in the lobby of the NYTimes?


17 posted on 02/12/2006 6:53:21 AM PST by hershey (enmark)
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To: tsmith130
"We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security."

Maybe a 30 year tour of this place will convince him:


18 posted on 02/12/2006 6:53:31 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: paguch

Early this am, the three letter word, WAR was spoken and underlined in Fox. As in wake up, folks, we are at WAR.


19 posted on 02/12/2006 6:55:39 AM PST by hershey (enmark)
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To: tsmith130
Here's hoping the adminstration finds the intestinal fortitude to seek to convince a jury of Keller's peers.

I'm not worried at all about the administration's intestinal fortitude but I doubt the courts would hold up a conviction.

20 posted on 02/12/2006 6:55:46 AM PST by bkepley
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To: tsmith130
Here's some free advise for Risen, If you drop the soap just let it go and if some burley man says,"boy you sure got a purdy mouth", ask him what color lipstick does he prefer.
21 posted on 02/12/2006 6:56:56 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Wasanother
Well that's comforting, Bill Keller, newspaper idiot with no idea of national security, says they didn't jeopardize national security

Bingo! He gets to decide why?

22 posted on 02/12/2006 6:57:05 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: muawiyah
"Let's spread the damage to all the sectors of society who conspired, knowingly or otherwise, in this treachery."

I agree, and I want the trial to start by mid Aug. and be live on C-span for everyone to see the damage these RATS have caused to national security.
23 posted on 02/12/2006 6:57:08 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: tsmith130
"Here's hoping the administration finds the intestinal fortitude to seek to convince a jury of Keller's peers."

In 'no balls' America that's just not happening.

This neutered condition extends as well to journalists who print what they please and are explicitly proud of it until they have something to print that may anger someone who they believe may blow their lying liberal heads off--then they become "prudent".

No balls and scumbag cowards to boot.
24 posted on 02/12/2006 6:57:12 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: tsmith130
Yeah, no kidding.

An upcoming article in Commentary magazine suggests that the newspaper may be prosecuted for violations of the Espionage Act...

I'll believe that when I see it.

25 posted on 02/12/2006 6:58:45 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: hershey
What does it take to get through to these dunderheads? Wild-eyed Muslims renting a van, filling it with fertilizer, etc., and parking it in the lobby of the NYTimes?

Perhaps this is their insurance that such a thing won't happen. After all,"The enemy of my enemy........."

26 posted on 02/12/2006 7:00:20 AM PST by Socratic
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To: tsmith130
"We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised believed that this information would be extremely damaging to the Bush administration which is far more important than national security."

Just reporting the real story.

27 posted on 02/12/2006 7:01:19 AM PST by carlr
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To: TADSLOS

A little enlightenment of what we are looking at, for those of us not on a lanmarks preservation committee, might be helpful.


28 posted on 02/12/2006 7:01:22 AM PST by rock58seg (It's time for Islam to actually become a religion of peace or a religion of the past.)
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To: Socratic

It is highly noteworthy that the New York Times was not subjected to any sort of attack on 9/11.


29 posted on 02/12/2006 7:01:54 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: rock58seg

Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary


30 posted on 02/12/2006 7:02:38 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: muawiyah
It is highly noteworthy that the New York Times was not subjected to any sort of attack on 9/11.

QED

31 posted on 02/12/2006 7:03:14 AM PST by Socratic
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To: TalBlack

It's also "no balls" politicians. If the roles were reversed, GOP and Dims, the Dims would back any measures to get conservative publications nailed, and even on falty information.

Well, here we have real data, generally speaking, and when we sorely need a period whereby we, the government/people, could sorely use some solutions for treasonous behavior, those in control politically will probably back off in the name who knows what for reasons of political expedience.


32 posted on 02/12/2006 7:04:13 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: tsmith130
So they weighed their options and surely had the countries best interest in mind when they decided this little tidbit of information was an unnecessary national security secret.

Who knew the NY Slimes were top notch national security experts?

(/sarc)
33 posted on 02/12/2006 7:04:52 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: tsmith130

Its irrelevant whether you think your actions may or may not compromise national security. That's not the legal standard. The NY Times has no legal right to publish classified information. Period. It doesn't matter what you think of the war, or even if there is a war. They can't compromise classified information.


34 posted on 02/12/2006 7:05:52 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: tsmith130
"We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security."

These Ivy League elites who run the major media learned many things in college, among them:

1) Ethics are circumstancial and relative

2) The Press has little to fear from the government, due to endless legal complications and the perennial 'Freedom of the Press' defense. Did Ellesberg do time for releasing the Pentagon Papers?

35 posted on 02/12/2006 7:07:23 AM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A "democratic socialist" is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: tsmith130
"Before running the story we gave long and sober consideration to the administration's contention that disclosing the program would damage the country's counterterrorism efforts," Mr. Keller said. "We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security."

So the integrity of our national security depends on the judgement of the NYTimes. I'm not feeling too warm and fuzzy about that.

36 posted on 02/12/2006 7:09:23 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: muawiyah
It is highly noteworthy that the New York Times was not subjected to any sort of attack on 9/11.

See, that proves that BushRoveHitlerCo wasn't to blame for 9/11 because their first target would have been the NYT.

37 posted on 02/12/2006 7:09:27 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: TADSLOS

Geez, what were you doing at that URL?


38 posted on 02/12/2006 7:09:47 AM PST by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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To: Paloma_55
How about "Federal Prosecutors"!?!?

They are called Conservatives when the Administration is conservative. Federal prosecutors were called Liberals when they went after Clinton.

What, they were called Conservative then too? I don't understand.

39 posted on 02/12/2006 7:09:57 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: ops33; JoeSixPack1
The NY Times has no legal right to publish classified information. Period.

Such absolute pronouncements really stick in the liberal craw, lol.

40 posted on 02/12/2006 7:10:36 AM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A "democratic socialist" is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: Moonman62

I know I shouldn't be, but I am amazed at how pompous that statement is. Absolutely, amazed!


41 posted on 02/12/2006 7:10:40 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: tsmith130
Frankly, I'm aware of secret information which, if disclosed, would be front page news. I'm not convinced it should be classified. But that's not for me to say. I do not feel so arrogant that I will disclose what others in our government feel must be a secret. The whole role of the NYT begs some questions. Is there any tool we're using in the war on Islamic terrorists that the NYT would not share with the terrorists to assure their safety? Would they tell them when we are going to counter their attacks or where? Who would trust the NYT to know anything that might give free citizens the advantage against mass-murdering terrorists whom the NYT seems to see as an alternative lifestyle. Whose side is the NYT on in the war on terror? The NYT has distorted news and lied many times. Take the famine in the Ukraine, as just one example, and the fact that they never gave back Walter Duranty's Pulitzer Prize. Surely the NYT knows today that Duranty lied. How can the NYT pretend that it's some how above the law and that it views itself as a news organization that always tells the truth? Today, it has become the best friend al Qaeda has. Castro must be jealous.
42 posted on 02/12/2006 7:11:14 AM PST by elhombrelibre (MSM: de facto allies of America's enemies.)
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To: tsmith130

I for one, cannot WAIT to see James Risen under oath....AND Pinch Sulzberger....


43 posted on 02/12/2006 7:12:55 AM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: Moonman62

"Before running the story we gave long and sober consideration to the administration's contention that disclosing the program would damage the country's counterterrorism efforts," Mr. Keller said. "We were not convinced then, and have not been convinced since, that our reporting compromised national security."

The Rosenburgs could have used that line...but it wouldn't have worked back then.


44 posted on 02/12/2006 7:13:32 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: tsmith130
They have admitted that before they printed the disclosure, they were asked NOT TO PRINT IT BECAUSE OF NATIONAL SECURITY!

Malicious intent anybody = TREASON!

They should be executed, and run out of this Country on a rail!
45 posted on 02/12/2006 7:13:38 AM PST by standing united (82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!)
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To: Mike Darancette

...all part of that Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (of which I am a card-carrying member, thank-you).


46 posted on 02/12/2006 7:15:42 AM PST by scan58
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To: Fresh Wind

Very good.


47 posted on 02/12/2006 7:16:52 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: kanawa
Geez, what were you doing at that URL?

LOL! Yeah, I shoulda caught that one...Just picked it out of the google image lineup. There's not too many images of the place, not surprisingly.

48 posted on 02/12/2006 7:17:05 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: tsmith130
I have this feeling that a certain Arthur Ochs "Pinch" Sulzberger, Jr. might be doing a perp walk within the next few months.
49 posted on 02/12/2006 7:18:02 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: mhuye
THANK GOD for the fact that THEY DECIDED what is best for the other 300 million Americans

Well said. This is a perfect example of the liberal superiorist mentality.

50 posted on 02/12/2006 7:18:46 AM PST by Starboard (Liberal superiorists hate the system that allows average people to make more money than they do.)
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