Posted on 02/12/2006 3:45:28 PM PST by neverdem
MILWAUKEE — One woman here killed a friend after they argued over a brown silk dress. A man killed a neighbor whose 10-year-old son had mistakenly used his dish soap. Two men argued over a cellphone, and pulling out their guns, the police say, killed a 13-year-old girl in the crossfire.
While violent crime has been at historic lows nationwide and in cities like New York, Miami and Los Angeles, it is rising sharply here and in many other places across the country.
And while such crime in the 1990's was characterized by battles over gangs and drug turf, the police say the current rise in homicides has been set off by something more bewildering: petty disputes that hardly seem the stuff of fistfights, much less gunfire or stabbings.
Suspects tell the police they killed someone who "disrespected" them or a family member, or someone who was "mean mugging" them, which the police loosely translate as giving a dirty look. And more weapons are on the streets, giving people a way to act on their anger.
Police Chief Nannette H. Hegerty of Milwaukee calls it "the rage thing."
"We're seeing a very angry population, and they don't go to fists anymore, they go right to guns," she said...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
A large part of the problem, the police say, is simply more guns on the streets as gun laws have loosened around the country. In Philadelphia, Commissioner Johnson said, since the state made it easier to get a gun permit in 1985, the number of people authorized to carry a gun in the city has risen from 700 to 32,000.
How many of those were involved in murders, the NY Times doesn't say.
Interesting article:)The NYTimes has absolutely ZERO credibility with me.
reading the NY locals is like reading Steven Kings discarded scratch pads. The stuff that happens here is to sick to be believed.
If the NYTimes is running this story, there's a reason behind it. I'm thinking of Hillary Clinton at this point....
This sounds suspiciously like cherry-picking examples to support a preconceived agenda.
reading the NY locals is like reading Steven King's discarded scratch pads. The stuff that happens here is too sick to be believed.
If the NYTimes is running this story, there's a reason behind it. I'm thinking of Hillary Clinton at this point....
I can't help but think that our national obsession with being 'dissed' and ones' 'civil rights' being anything one feels like doing is somehow correlated to the schools' national obsession with self-esteem.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
Let me see. "Disrespected"? "Mean mugging"? 'He bumped into me,' 'He looked at my girl the wrong way,', "even after the person gives up, the guy with the gun shoots him anyway. We didn't have as much of that before."
The article dances around ethnic and racial and illegal immigration issues related to this reported upsurge in murders, but strangely the reasons are still portrayed as mysterious and unknowable. It couldn't be that PC is preventing an esteemed news source such as the New York Times from frank and honest reporting, could it?
Surprised that Cincinnati is not on this list.
It does not surprise me because it seems as though the entitlement mentality of certain populations who breed like rabbits and have no real responsibility have not been taught civilized behavior by the very nanny government who feeds their dependent behavior. You can't blame the guns on that one.
As a resident of Illinois the fiefdom of Daley I can tell you why crime might be rising in Milwaukee. Daley has been succesful in gentrification of alot of neighborhoods, and in effect sending his criminals out of Chicago.
What I get from this story -- is that we should arm EVERYONE in all the "Liberal Enclave" cities, and step back...
The leftist degenerates will off themselves...
They would even appreciate the fact we've accepted the Darwin theory and working towards natural selection of the most fit....to survive.
Semper Fi
They have a RINO mayor...who's a good ol' boy that has squandered money on parks, pools, and a white elephant convention center...while letting the police dept. go without.
FWIW-
I have no doubt that the lady police chief in Milwaukee just wants to make sure she keeps her citizens disarmed in her ass-kissing of the Democrat governor. Police chiefs are politicians, as opposed to being actual cops, and I'll even venture that lady police chiefs are among the worst of a bad lot.
Kudos to NYC. Folks put the place down, but it works as a city.
So much for "Just give the robber what he wants."
Big uptick in Nashville murders ping.
I'm surprised they forgot to add that it's all George Bush's fault.
And don't forget that Dick Cheney just added to the tally of the wounded in Texas : ^ )
Why are we commenting on dreck published by the NYT?
Because if nobody comments on it, the gullible and brainwashed will actually believe it.
There is credibility to the article. My local cops are attributing it to hispanic surnamed crimnals and victims. Emotion apparently runs high on how they think and act.
Good point!
mark
Not me....I've only killed my usual quota this year.
I agree the numbers are tiny and the evidence is ancedotal. Surely, we should expect a more scientific approach.
Just when you thought crime was illegal.
Moral of the story? Never make a call on a cell phone while washing your plates with dish soap in a brown silk dress in Milwaukee.
I am stunned Baltimore is not on here. I wonder if it has to do with our inept boy mayor running for governor this year...maybe not
That's definately a reason to disarm America. All those robbers walking around with gun permits have to be stopped.
How many were wearing Mexican army uniforms?
Hmmmm...what do I get the distinct impression this is ALL black on black crime?
lol
Those church going Pubbies got to learn to chill.
Wondering about Memphis ping
How do you "mistakenly use" dish soap? "Oh, excuse me, I didn't realize that a) I was in your house instead of mine and b) using your dish soap instead of Mom's."
Law enforcement officer:"A big part of the problem is more guns on the street...loosening gun laws across the country..."When i read articles like this,i ask myself does this writer have an agenda?My take on the article was the author is probably anti-gun.Probably liberal.
Hi neighbor (well almost, I'm SW).
But I don't think its the gentrification and certainly not anything that *&%^$ Daley has done.
Remember 'way back' when welfare to work reform kicked in. Even IL followed suit, but Wisconsin did not. In fact they INCREASED the benefits. I recall reading scores of articles in the Trib and Slum Times then about Chicago's 'po folk moving in droves to Wisconsin just for that reason. They were supposed to be bleeding heart, "aw geez these 'po folk are being uprooted and forced to move out of state because of the mean republicans". But the reality was, it was about 'gettin mo money'.
And with the tougher sentencing laws, many most of Daley's constituents are sitting in Statesville instead of roaming the streets raping, robbing and killing.
Plus, the Chicago PD and Crook County States Attorney is fudging the numbers. Felonies are plead down to misdemeanors and things like Assault With A Deadly weapon changed to Battery. That ^&%*@$% DICK Devine simply will NOT prosecute most gun crimes as 'gun crimes' if the perp is of a certain protected minority, which is oh.. about 80% of Chicago now. What's worse is that he absolutely refuses to turn gun crimes over to the Feds where convictions are almost guaranteed and the sentence is 20 years with no parole. His office has the lowest rate of cooperation with the FEDS in the entire USA on that.
So IMHO Chi's violent crime stats are really increasing. And I doubt if there is ONE 'safe neighborhood' within the city limits where you could go anywhere after dark without fear of becoming a crime victim.
That is the best reason ever to carry a gun with you at all times once you leave your house.Whether or not the local city you reside in grants you "permission" to exercise your constitutional RIGHT to carrry a gun. All unarmed citizens are at the mercy of anyone with a gun knife or bat and if you are more concerned with obeying some local law thne you are with ensuring the safety of you or your family either you or your family members may be killed and it will be very small conselation to have "i obeyed all the unconstitutional laws of my city like a good little slave" etched into your tombstone.
hopefully with the two new justices on the supreme court we have a shot at gettingh the 34 and 68 gun control laws tossed out but i dont know enough about them yet to know how they will vote we will probably see in the next two or three months if they are literate enough to rule on the 2cd amendment the right way
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A large part of the problem, the police say, is simply more guns on the streets as gun laws have loosened around the country. In Philadelphia, Commissioner Johnson said, since the state made it easier to get a gun permit in 1985, the number of people authorized to carry a gun in the city has risen from 700 to 32,000.
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Yes, but murders and crimes have dropped drastically from 1985 to the present. Therefore, the NY times statement, attempting to link gun laws with increases is 180 degrees from reality, if one was to correlate the two statistics.
One woman here killed a friend after they argued over a brown silk dress. A man killed a neighbor whose 10-year-old son had mistakenly used his dish soap. Two men argued over a cellphone, and pulling out their guns, the police say, killed a 13-year-old girl in the crossfire.They were all askin' for it.
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