Skip to comments.Hillary, You Are No Bill Clinton
Posted on 02/13/2006 5:54:51 AM PST by Neville72
The London Times reviews the performance of the presumed front-runner for the Democratic ticket in 2008 and finds her performance wanting. Gerard Baker, the editor for its American desk, notes that Hillary Clinton not only cannot connect well in her appearances but cannot even escape the long shadow cast by her husband and most potent political asset:
Few deny that Mrs Clinton is razor-sharp and politically savvy. But even supporters worry about her personal skills, at least before a large audience. She is a somewhat wooden speaker with a hectoring style at times more reminiscent of Al Gore than her husband. And unlike Bill, she projects a lofty, distant air that has been likened to the Queen of Sheba in a power suit. Last weekend Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, homed in on Mrs Clintons personality, saying that she was too angry. His aim was both to pinpoint her weaknesses and to needle her, and it seems to have worked. ...
The hope in her camp is that people will believe that Mrs Clinton has her husbands political strengths and none of his weaknesses. The growing fear is that she incites the same level of loathing and suspicion as her husband always did, but has none of the charm and personality to deflect it.
Hillary has always come across as a scold and a cold fish on the stump, where Bill may only truly find himself in that setting. He has always had a grace and flow to his appearances that served him well on most occasions. His charm finds its best and most productive outlet there, while Hillary usually sounds rather tight and forced. The comparisons will not make her look any better, and if she has Bill at the same events with her, he will continue to upstage her every time. That only plays into the suspicion that Hillary will run as an end-around to the 25th Amendment to garner Bill his third term in office.
Democrats need to find a national candidate with less baggage than Hillary. Almost half of the electorate doesn't want anything to with the Clintons ever again, and about half of what's left doesn't think Bill is worth casting a vote for Hillary. Rasmussen's last poll demonstrates that Hillary might win in the primaries, but she will get shellacked in a national election and probably would be the biggest get-out-the-vote incentive for the GOP in years. When the London Times plays Lloyd Bentsen to Hillary's Dan Quayle, her negatives no longer can be portrayed as Republican wishful thinking.
I've never seen evidence of her intelligence. The fact that she won't take unscripted questions from an audience tells me that she is not quick on her feet. Likewise, I think she has a tin ear and is not politically savvy at all.
The empress has no clothes. Someone has to say it, no matter how utterly distasteful it is.
I can't wait for 2008 presidential elections.
I'm going to have the tape rolling at every debate.
After the polls start to look desperate, her handlers are going to tell her that she needs to "seem passionate" about some issue, and she's going to let out one of those torrents of spine-twisting screem rants, and it will be over.
there is NO WAY she will win a national election.
What a silly little girl! Most kids outgrow their fantasies. Aw, don't cry, honey. Maybe you can be a princess.
Two words....Ross Perot.
Yep. And there is a very real possibility that that might just happen again since there are many disgruntled conservatives. A solid 3rd-party candidate might be able to scoop allot of them up.
It was his way of saying to her, "Honey, you will always need me."
The guy we were speaking with seemed very wired in and told us to concentrate on Warner much more as a long term threat. I indicated to him that Hillary has the money cornered, but that he could be right once minds start changing, especially if Condi does get in the race (as we suspect she will by next January) and the presentation contrast becomes all too stark.
Be Seeing You,
Worst of all (from her perspective) she's transparent as glass.
So is her husband, but, unlike Hillary, he can seduce large populations into disregard.
"The hope in her camp is that people will believe that Mrs Clinton has her husbands political strengths and none of his weaknesses."
Those "political strengths", of course, are a talent for seducing and bamboozling (also known, to the incognoscenti, as "charm and personality").
"Democrats need to find a national candidate with less baggage than Hillary."
No. Democrats need to get out of the way, drop into the oubliette of history, and let the Republicans and Libertarians govern the U.S.A.
Those who want to "make a difference" or "make a contribution" (as they love to crow) can best do so by leaving the process of governing to others.
Bill Clinton has the rare gift of being able to fit in anywhere among any kind of people, be it a Black Baptist church or Oxford. Hillary doesn't have that.
She is about as sharp as a brick and almost as pretty.
While watching Fox on election eve '04 they had Susan Estrich on. As some of you may recall she was a bit "relaxed" that night. When asked if the Hildabeast would win in '08 Susan said that she was "unelectable".
Agreed. The woman couldn't debate her way out of a wet paper bag. She's the Dark-side version of the Wizard of Oz.
The Democrat Party is nothing but angry "activists" from the 60s. All those confused, drug dazed, iconoclastic hippies are now middle aged and run the Democrat Party.
They were--and still are--angry rebels searching for a cause. The noble Civil Rights Revolution conincided with their tantrum and many, naively, gave them undeserved credit for it, at least in part.
However the Hippie Tantrum of the 60s had little or nothing to do with the Civil Rights Revolution or anything else worthwhile.
Meanwhile, these 60s hippies continue to rage and bluster, as they had some purpose or something to offer.
Only a complete moron would allow them to govern the U.S.A. (Unfortunately, there are many complete morons among the electorate.)
Oubliette - a little place of forgetting. A small, windowless room where someone is locked away, forgotten, left to go mad.
This is my personal place to rant and rave like the lunatic I am, my oubliette. It's dark, quiet, and I come here to forget about things. Or maybe to remember them.
After all, where does insanity end, and insight begin?
***Great question for Democrats to ponder.
Yes, he's kinda like a combination of Zelig and Don Juan.
And you know what I am talking about! ! !
I do also. So right there you have a few.
When is Saturday Night Live going to parody Hillary with a a huge ass eating a bucket of chicken? How come this supposed great comedy comedy show has never ONCE poked fun at her obesity and ghoulish looks? Not once?
You hit the nail on the head with that one.
I will give Hillary some credit though, she's got that "rode hard and put away wet" look down cold.
Huh? The 25th has nothing to do with 3 terms.
In the medieval castles of Europe, an oubliette was situated beneath a trap door at the entrance. When a lever was pressed, an intruder standing on the trap door was dropped into the oubliette, from which there was no exit, and left there to die and be forgotten.
That's what we need to do with the Democrat Party.
"And there is a very real possibility that that might just happen again since there are many disgruntled conservatives. A solid 3rd-party candidate might be able to scoop allot of them up."
And return a Democrat to White House again. The Perotistas
just don't seem to learn, or perhaps they don't give a d**n as long as they cast their dissenting vote against a viable Republican candidate.
Third parties do NOT work. Even the guys who are going to contribute to the NRA and let that august organization speak for them don't get it.
She is sharp having the FBI Files to intimidate people.
I think it is the nice turn of her ankle. :-)
The problem with Hillary pulling off the 'Perot Gambit' is that any 3rd party candidate will have to come from the right and the more likely 3rd party candidate scenario in '08, especially with HRC nomination, will come from her left.
Is it wonder after her collusion with Ng Lap Seng, Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie; Wang Mei Trie, John Huang, Johnny Chung, Liu Tai-ying, Bin Liu, Irene Wu, Nora Lum, Shi-Zeng Chen, General Ding Henggao, Lt. Gen. Huai Guomo, "Col. Xu", William Peh, PRC Defense Minister Chi Haotian, China Resources chairman Shen Jueren, Bao Peide, 5th Vice Minister of the PRC, Zou Jia Hua, Vice Minister National Technology Planning, Bernard Schwartz, Zhu Roug-ji, Vice Premier of National Finance, .Liu Ju-Yuan, Minister of China Aerospace Corporation (made both satellite orbiter version of Long March and the nuclear tippled missile version for the PLA), Ms Melinda Yee, Ira Sockowitz, Leon A. Panetta, Mark Littleton, Neal Ainley and convicted Miami drug trafficker Jose Cabrera, along with Hillary's ongoing ties to James Riady and the Lippo Bank-Lippo Group & Lippo Pacific in Indonesia---Hillary has no chance of winning anymore elections.
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U S Congressional Record/Senate
June 23, 1999
The Clinton National Security Scandal and Coverup
Senator James Inhofe
(righ column, top)
Congratulations for knowing what an oubliette is. I bet you even know what "hoist by his own petard" really means.
We can add our terrorist enemy No. 1 during the Vietnam War, Communist North Vietnam Dictator HO CHI MINH, to the list of HILLARY's collusions as well.
Bringing about for all of us to see in the end:
Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp
And make no mistake, with HILLARY back in our Oval Office...
...it could all happen HERE.
Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965
'MAKE IT A RULE' -- PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR OSAMA WITH CLINTON and CO.
(HEAR HILLARY + BILL MAKE THEIR PITCH)
ON THE FICTIONALIZED MEMOIR (HEAR HILLARY IN SF)~PART TWO~
THE (oops!) INADVERTENT ADMISSIONS OF HILLARY AND JANE IN SAN FRANCISCO
THE (oops!) INADVERTENT ADMISSIONS OF BILL + HILLARY CLINTON (HEAR HILLARY IN SF) ~PART ONE~
'HIATUS' FOR HILLARY?
for the birds
(THE INCOMPETENCE OF HILLARY CLINTON)
HILLARY FLUNKED D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" sought less competitive venue
HILLARY!?? WHAT IS THIS MORIBUND LOSER DOING IN THE POLITICAL ARENA, ANYWAY? (bill's bud explains)
If every American woman who has a big ass -- or thinks she does -- votes for Hillary in sympathy, she will be elected by a landslide. If you don't want to see Prez Hillary, I'd avoid that line of attack.
Bill Clinton is a sociopath--a bad person but genuinely charming in personal interactions. Hillary lacks the charm.
Next up from Hillary Land:
They will put her through "charm school", and then the MSM will hail her turnaround as a revitailized candidate.
Geez, the plot practically writes itself...
I hate to admit it, but I think you're going to win the bet. What does it mean? ~S
Strangely, I was thinking of that phrase just this morning. A premonition? I didn't take the time to search out the meaning as I often do. Strange...
It's a small explosive device used by sappers (who "sap" the enemy's fortification walls) who dig a tunnel under the wall and then explode the device to cause a breach in the wall.
Thanks for the ping!
If she was elected POTUS what she get instead of a BJ in the OVAL office and who would be performing the service.
hoist: lift up; raise or lift somebody or something up.
be hoist with your own petard: to be the victim of your own attempt to harm somebody else
(Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation)
One thing I love about the internet is the easy ability to look up words and their derivations and consequently to use them precisely as well as creatively. I like to keep the dictionary at an easy click, and I keep a dictionary of my own of words and phrases that are not easily accessible otherwise and of quotations for easy reference.
Thanks, LS and AAM, for bringing this useful concept to clarity. ~S
Interesting. I hadn't thought of it in just these terms, before. Rather sickening, the thought of Billy-Jeff re-installed in the WH with his hand on the lever of power. However, I rather think Hillary wouldn't let Bill near any real power. She'd want it all for herself, using Bill for tactical advice, only.
Very welcome. Bttt
Warner is their best shot IMHO, Hillary ain't a Thang.....