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A Fitting Heir to Bush (Slams Senator George Allen)
The Nation ^ | 2/13/06 | Ari Berman

Posted on 02/13/2006 11:07:30 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: MikeA
but in the case of George Allen I'm afraid it may be true. W"e need to look elsewhere for a candidate for 2008. This guy will be a disaster. He will be the GOP's John Kerry."

I couldn't agree more. I live in the OD and Allen's record here was neither harmful nor particularly helpful. Status quo I believe would be an apt description.
101 posted on 02/13/2006 12:27:26 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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102 posted on 02/13/2006 12:29:19 PM PST by firewalk
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To: ClaireSolt

"Allen is 6'4" tall and played quarterback at U VA. That is exactly the kind of man we need"

That's great, if the president spends a lot of time scrimmaging (if that's the word). Otherwise, skills besides football might come in handy.


103 posted on 02/13/2006 12:30:08 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: Sabramerican
"My point is that you either want to keep the White House Republican or you do not."

The White House will stay Republican, the only thing that could screw that up would be a Rudy, or McCain nomination.

You are welcome to you opinion, but you'll never sell it to the heartland.
104 posted on 02/13/2006 12:32:45 PM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
And with good reason.

Katerina is the typical pompous liberal, whose own over-inflated ego outstrips her intelligence and self-awareness by miles.

This is the same pretentious twit that didn't even know who her congressman was, and yet she has the never to call other people "stupid."

She is such a repugnant, vile creature that she almost makes me dislike Dutch people, which is pretty hard to do.

105 posted on 02/13/2006 12:34:44 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Beagle8U

Not true.

Give me a little while and I'll find the link. Rudy polls astonishingly well with social conservatives. I like Rudy but I did not think he would get the nod till I saw the #'s


106 posted on 02/13/2006 12:37:48 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: tomahawk

I think we did already.

*Runs off to try to find poll....*


107 posted on 02/13/2006 12:39:47 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Blackirish
Try "project vote smart.org" , but you may need until it is updated before 2008 to see much on Rudy.
108 posted on 02/13/2006 12:41:31 PM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

Well .. if they're already calling George "dumber than Bush" - they must be really worried about him running.

Did anyone notice the Nation is not calling McCain "dumber than Bush" ..?? Hmmmmm??


109 posted on 02/13/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by CyberAnt (America - the greatest nation on the face of the earth!)
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To: areafiftyone

His teeth are brown, evidentally by chewing that brown stuff.


110 posted on 02/13/2006 12:45:08 PM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: MikeA
The quality of the resume is irrelevant if you can't sell the package. Brilliant people who present as less than bright are difficult to elect.
111 posted on 02/13/2006 12:46:19 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: ConservativeDude
A while back he also had the political genius to try to say that life begins with brain waves, in an attempt to become a bit more moderate with the naral folks.

Allen has consistently held that position, as far as I know since he first entered politics. While I don't agree with it, it's at least an honest and consistent position that I can respect. For you to claim he's pandering to NARAL, well it looks like you're just making things up to be a Clymer.

112 posted on 02/13/2006 12:51:30 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: areafiftyone; All

The Nation, whose editor famously admitted on television, that she didn't know the name of her own Congressman.


113 posted on 02/13/2006 12:52:31 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Blackirish; areafiftyone
Yeah, I could never imagine Rudy Giuliani-with all his attendant baggage-being elected POTUS, but the more I see of him out of office-and unencumbered by presiding over a relatively liberal, heavily Democratic city-the less outlandish that scenario seems.

In fact, I think the deep-seated animus of conservative "leaders"-such as Mike Long and David Keene-actually enhances his reputation among the Republican base.

You can bring up all the reservations you like, e.g. him living with a gay couple, his equivocation on abortion, his adultery, but the fact remains that he speaks our language, and that is why he polls so well among conservatives.

John McLame is the type of doofus that would send terrorist Lori Berenson a valentine, while Rudy is the type who would pull the switch on her.

It's just that simple.

The only major impediment to his nomation would be his position on gun control, which he needs to jettison ASAP.

114 posted on 02/13/2006 12:52:53 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: areafiftyone

I don't think it's a coincidence that as Allen gets more play the liberals and moderates (tkathy, areafiftyone, et al) will be out in force attacking him on whatever basis they can find or fabricate.


115 posted on 02/13/2006 12:53:18 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Old_Mil
Well, now that you've been outed as a party-over-principle big tenter

Howlin's been out of the closet a long time. With regard to, shall we say, openness to those of other political orientations, not her personal life.

116 posted on 02/13/2006 12:55:40 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: CyberAnt

[Did anyone notice the Nation is not calling McCain "dumber than Bush" ..?? Hmmmmm??]

You make a great point...but I for one am tired of being on the side of the one whom "intellectuals" get to slam at will, with the "victim" not caring to defend himself.

I remember reading a conservative Wall Street Journal account of how the President deliberately used the word "nucular" and other country talk in the 2004 campaign in order to talk down to many in his electorate who don't like intellectuals at all, even when those intellectuals really are smart and street-wise and vote Republican.

I cannot count the number of friends in California who peeled away from Bush in the final year before the election on account of his use of the word "nucular". They didn't see the humor. They didn't admire the apparent intent, which was to talk down to his own voters (not that he wasn't the best candidate for whom I crawled over broken glass to vote for).

It doesn't necessarily have to be Rudy, but I want somebody who would fly to the Sorbonne on a moment's notice to defend the honor of the US Republican Party in a debate with a leftist French professor who just crossed a line in one of his lectures yesterday...

I want to see French intellectuals daring to speak out in favor of leftism....prompting the American President to fly to Paris immediately to take him on in an intellectual duel that leaves the leftist curled up in the fetal position.

Reagan almost had this trait. The Bush Family absolutely does NOT have this trait. The world is ready for a conservative who DOES have this trait.

Liberals are so easy to make speechless. They are so easy to force into a corner where they will BEG to get out of the room...or convert to conservatism before your very eyes.

I am an expert converter of liberals to conservatism. I convert at least one person per week.

We need someone with the power to do that.


117 posted on 02/13/2006 12:57:34 PM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: MikeA
"No to McCain. No to Giuliani." I'm actually willing to say yes to both.

That says a lot.

118 posted on 02/13/2006 12:57:37 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: JohnnyZ

[I don't think it's a coincidence that as Allen gets more play the liberals and moderates (tkathy, areafiftyone, et al) will be out in force attacking him on whatever basis they can find or fabricate.]

If Allen polls below 50% with the general public...he needs to forget about a candidacy. The Reps can easily put up someone who polls 70% going into a campaign.


119 posted on 02/13/2006 12:59:50 PM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: GermanBusiness

"I cannot count the number of friends in California who peeled away from Bush in the final year before the election on account of his use of the word "nucular". They didn't see the humor. They didn't admire the apparent intent, which was to talk down to his own voters."

Then if it was to be humorous, why didn't he stop doing it after the election? He did it most recently in the State of the Union address. Was he just being funny, talking "down" to ALL of us?


120 posted on 02/13/2006 1:02:03 PM PST by linda_22003
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