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Boeing delivers 5,000th 737
Wichita Business Journal via Yahoo! ^ | 2/13/06 | Wichita Business Journal

Posted on 02/13/2006 1:52:25 PM PST by conservative in nyc

On April 9, 1967, the Boeing Co. delivered its first 737.

Monday, Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV - News) took possession of the 5,000th 737.

The "Baby Boeing" as it was called during its development has become the most produced large commercial jet.

"The 737 is an icon of efficiency in air travel and one of commercial aviation's greatest success stories," says Alan Mullaly, president and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, in a statement.

The jet, a 737-700, is the 447th 737 to join Southwest's fleet. The low-cost airline is scheduled to take delivery on 33 more of the twin-engine jets in 2006.

There are more than 4,100 737s in service with 541 operators worldwide.

Boeing (NYSE: BA - News) has been studying a replacement for the 737 that could be ready around 2012 to 2015. Currently, the 737s main competitor is the Airbus A320 family that has won at least 50 percent of the market.

The company has modified 737s for use as business jets and military versions are being developed as an airborne early warning and control for Australia and as a submarine hunter for the U.S. Navy.

Spirit AeroSystems Inc. builds 75 percent of the 737 airframe on a Wichita production line that Boeing started while it owned commercial airplane manufacturing facilities in Wichita.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 737; airbus; boeing; wichita

1 posted on 02/13/2006 1:52:26 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Paleo Conservative

Ping!


2 posted on 02/13/2006 1:52:48 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

And I don't even own one. The injustice!


3 posted on 02/13/2006 1:53:20 PM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: conservative in nyc

Boeing Bump


4 posted on 02/13/2006 2:05:04 PM PST by hattend (Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back. - Ann Coulter)
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To: conservative in nyc

I dunno, love Boeing and all that, but flying Coach in a 737 is like being crammed into a shoe box. The plane just ain't right for three rows of seats, no sir, not one bit.


5 posted on 02/13/2006 2:05:28 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: conservative in nyc; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.

6 posted on 02/13/2006 2:07:37 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: conservative in nyc
There are more than 4,100 737s in service

So.... what happened to the other 800+ ???

8 posted on 02/13/2006 2:15:48 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
>what happened to the other 800+ ???

Some of them got to retire.

D'oh!

9 posted on 02/13/2006 2:24:20 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: Izzy Dunne
So.... what happened to the other 800+ ???

The first 737s are almost 40 years old. Some older models have been scrapped; others are in storage; a few crashed.

The first plane off the line is in the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field, Seattle. It is currently owned by NASA. You can learn more about it (and see some pictures) here.
10 posted on 02/13/2006 2:27:20 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc
The 737 turned out to be a fairly decent plane once they lengthened it out and fixed some of the systems. The first ones had lousy aerodynamics and a lot of their systems were terribly designed. (Lots of foreign engineers on that one. Ahem!)

One thing I always marveled at was the brake metering valve which used one hydraulic system for the outboard and the other system for the inboard brakes. They were tied together with a yoke so that they were inherently unstable, causing the main gear to go into shimmy oscillations.

I hope that design got fixed in later models.

11 posted on 02/13/2006 2:45:15 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: conservative in nyc
Check down this page for a picture of "5 grand", the 5000th Boeing B-17 signed by all the factory workers.

They built those 5000 in what, 3 years? Of course the Fortress was a wee bit simpler than the '37.

12 posted on 02/13/2006 2:56:03 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: conservative in nyc

just flew an old 733 last week from West Palm Beach....packed like sardines....


13 posted on 02/13/2006 3:03:19 PM PST by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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To: narby
Of course the Fortress was a wee bit simpler than the '37.

I don't know about that. The engines were certainly more complex on a B-17.

14 posted on 02/13/2006 3:08:27 PM PST by PAR35
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To: conservative in nyc

My airline is getting rid of all the ones they have. Old -300's.

Buying A320/A319, and Emb 170/190.

Gonna keep the 767's for a bit, but the A350 will replace those.


15 posted on 02/13/2006 3:14:42 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Women hold grudges, guys hold keggers.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

All of the -100's are history, we flew the last one in the US, retired it 12/31/99.

Now, all the 200's are gone from US carriers (except Alaska I think still has their combi's, and maybe a few at Aloha). There were thousands of -200's flying, most got scrapped, lots are in other countries.

The 300/400/500 aren't in production anymore, and the 600 doesn't sell much, most that get built are the long range 700, the bigger 800, and the 900 which is almost as big as a 757.


16 posted on 02/13/2006 3:17:16 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Women hold grudges, guys hold keggers.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Now, all the 200's are gone from US carriers (except Alaska I think still has their combi's, and maybe a few at Aloha). There were thousands of -200's flying, most got scrapped, lots are in other countries.

Delta also has some 737-200s. Alaska is retiring their combis soon.
17 posted on 02/13/2006 3:33:04 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

Those are old Western birds.

The oooooooonly way to fly.


18 posted on 02/13/2006 4:39:49 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Women hold grudges, guys hold keggers.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

What airline is that? Just curious. Alaska is going with an all Boeing fleet.


19 posted on 02/13/2006 4:53:06 PM PST by phantomworker (If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV - News) took possession of the 5,000th 737." Looks like it's floating on a sea of employees. ;)
20 posted on 02/13/2006 4:58:50 PM PST by phantomworker (If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.)
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To: dropandgimme20
This may be significant only to construction/engineering geeks..."

You must talking about the moving line in Everett. I've heard that it's the largest building in the world.

21 posted on 02/13/2006 5:00:30 PM PST by phantomworker (If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.)
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To: phantomworker

The new US Airways.

Gonna be A320/321/319, A330, A350, 757 and EMB 170 and 190 when they figure it all out. 767's and 737's still there for a few years though.

They just picked up 3 almost new 757's that are outfitted for ETOP, used to be ATA's planes.


22 posted on 02/13/2006 5:14:05 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Women hold grudges, guys hold keggers.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

I like the A321...much better interior than those old US Air 757's......but i liked the partioning of the bathroom's dividing the interior on the 757. Just flew a 321 to Fl last week - wish I had upgraded.


23 posted on 02/13/2006 5:18:36 PM PST by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

New US Airways? Are the airlines starting to restructure and get out of bankrupcy? Do you know?


24 posted on 02/13/2006 5:22:17 PM PST by phantomworker ("Ah Dam Bubba now what ya gonna do with all them hoods?" [reprinted with permission from the author])
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To: Central Scrutiniser

I've never been in an A319. How's the A319 compare to the 737.


25 posted on 02/13/2006 5:38:54 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: conservative in nyc
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/2006/q1/060112c_pr.html
http://www.b737.org.uk/history.htm#737-100




According to KING5, Boeing still has orders for 3,000 more 737's
26 posted on 02/13/2006 5:40:54 PM PST by djf
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To: Sub-Driver

The 321 has terrible range performance, looks like a 757, but can't go to Europe or Hawaii. Not a very sucessful plane.

I only flew it once, on Egypt Airlines, which is scary enough!


27 posted on 02/13/2006 5:56:34 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Women hold grudges, guys hold keggers.)
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To: gotribe

319 has good range, pretty zippy takeoff. About 20 ft shorter than the A320, not much different inside, only one escape window over-wing vs. the two on each wing on the A320.


28 posted on 02/13/2006 5:57:48 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Women hold grudges, guys hold keggers.)
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To: nightdriver
The 737 was designed originally to be a very short range plane for high-frequency operations--that was the way Lufthansa (the launch customer for the 737) wanted it.

But yet, over time the 737 has evolved into a modern airliner that now is capable of flying 150+ passengers non-stop between the US West Coast and US East Coast non-stop year-round. Indeed, the 737-800 has pretty much replaced the 727-200 in airline service with many airlines.

29 posted on 02/13/2006 6:17:46 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: RayChuang88
"Indeed, the 737-800 has pretty much replaced the 727-200 in airline service with many airlines."

True. I don't think they have even produced a 727-200 for some time now.

The 727 was far superior to the 737 in aerodynamics, but Boeing got gunshy about the high "T" tail. It had the peculiar characteristic of getting "blanked out" in a stall. Since a swept-wing aircraft typically stalls tail low, recovery could be very difficult.

The 727 had enough power to generally power out of a stall. I heard that Douglas lost a DC-9 from 20,000 feet because of not being able to recover.

The scuttlebutt I heard was that Boeing was gunshy about "T-tail" airplanes and would not build another for that reason. If they had fitted the 727 out with a pair of more powerful engines instead of those 3 JT8Ds, I think they would have had a tremendously efficient ship.

30 posted on 02/13/2006 6:40:53 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Sub-Driver
I'll be on a packed 737 on Thursday:


31 posted on 02/14/2006 4:00:54 AM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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To: phantomworker
Hey! I'm in that picture. 47th guy from the right and about 73 people from the front. See me?

It didn't take long for the first commemorative coffee cup to hit Ebay. Just for kicks I looked last night, and one is goign for $10
32 posted on 02/14/2006 5:15:50 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

I checked at coordinate (47, 73), but can't find you. Did you get a cup? $10 !!!

Condit was once handing out red striped unbrellas.


33 posted on 02/14/2006 5:25:34 AM PST by phantomworker ("Ah Dam Bubba now what ya gonna do with all them hoods?" [reprinted with permission from the author])
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To: phantomworker
Yep, the cup and coaster. Those red and white stripped umbrellas were handed out at a Renton site family day about back in the early 1990's. I still have a few.
34 posted on 02/14/2006 5:31:57 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: conservative in nyc

Every 4.6 seconds, one of more than 4,100 737s in service takes off or lands somewhere in the world. And 1,250 737s are in the air at any given moment.


35 posted on 02/14/2006 5:32:32 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

Me to!


36 posted on 02/14/2006 5:42:42 AM PST by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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To: NavyCanDo; SW6906
Every 4.6 seconds, one of more than 4,100 737s in service takes off or lands somewhere in the world. And 1,250 737s are in the air at any given moment.

Those are some staggering statistics!!! ;)

(Hope you guys don't forget Valentines Day today for your wives. A guy I know yesterday almost freaked out because he thought he forgot. LOL!)

37 posted on 02/14/2006 5:49:32 AM PST by phantomworker ("Ah Dam Bubba now what ya gonna do with all them hoods?" [reprinted with permission from the author])
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To: djf

The Red Barn is cool with all the hardwood floors. Reminds me of my drafting days. Mechanical drafting was my very first job... as a female, that was considered trailblazing back in the Midwest!


38 posted on 02/14/2006 6:03:50 AM PST by phantomworker ("Ah Dam Bubba now what ya gonna do with all them hoods?" [reprinted with permission from the author])
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To: phantomworker

Actually I did find me. Lower right, about 1.5" to the left of the guy in the lime-green workers vest. I'm in the medium blue jacket with the balding head, someone in yellow is standing in front of me.

My picture made Freerepublic - my life is now complete.


39 posted on 02/14/2006 6:05:00 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: nightdriver

I think the last 727 came off the line back in 1984. No big mainline American carriers still fly them, though you still see them used for charter work and also on smaller carriers--the "new" Pan Am has a few with and without winglets, and Sun Country used to fly them (are they even still around?). Champion Air has at least one as a charter, John Edwards used a Champion 727 during the 2004 campaign.

Delta didn't pull their 727s until April, 2003. That gave them almost a thirty-year run flying the 727.

Interestingly enough, you'll see a few 727s still flying with new engines. There's at least one company (Valsan) that's putting JT8D-217 or -219 engines from MD-80s on the pods of 727s, and they leave the older-model JT8D in the center position. The replacement engines give it about 10,000 pounds more thrust and help it meet noise restrictions. UPS's 727s have Rolls-Royce engines.

It's old, loud, and not fancy, but I still think the 727's the best-looking jetliner ever built.

And as for the 737...what else can you say about a design that's evolved from a high-density short-range 1960s version of a regional jet into an ETOPS-certified 150-passenger 3000-mile mainline workhorse?

}:-)4


40 posted on 02/14/2006 11:41:46 AM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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