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Ron Reagan: Did Cheney "Have Anything Against" Whittington?
Hardball/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/13/2006 5:23:57 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Edited on 02/13/2006 5:38:51 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

by Mark Finkelstein

February 13, 2006 - 20:02

Let the record show that it took the MSM less than a day to float the possibility that Dick Cheney intentionally shot Harry Whittington.

And who better to surmise that the Vice-President might have been trying to bump off his buddy than Ron Reagan, that primetime speaker at the Kerry convention who moonlights as an MSNBC "political analyst"?

Reagan appeared on tonight's Hardball with Chris Matthews, and in decrying the fact that the Secret Service apparently denied local law enforcement immediate access to Cheney, said the following:

"Law enforcement is entitled to investigate this case, to find out what happened, to find out if he had anything against Mr. Whittington, and to find out - again I don't mean to suggest anything - to find out if anyone had been drinking . . ."

Matthews, seemingly shocked but unable to contain a wide smile, broke in:

"You just did [suggest something]. Are you crazy? You just threw that out there. There's no reason to believe this is anything but an accident and you know it."

After suggesting it might have been anything but an accident, Reagan contradicted himself while trying to change the subject:

"I'm not suggesting it wasn't an accident but I'm saying one of the first questions the police would ask anybody is if there had been any drinking going on."

Matthews' other guest, notorious Bush antagonist Patrick Buchanan, was only too happy to pour inflammable liquid on the fire:

"Why didn't Cheney invite the sheriff in so the sheriff could find out what happened?"

So there it is. Approximately 13 hours after the story broke on national news, a paid MSM analyst has suggested that the Vice-President of the United States might have intentionally shot an innocent man.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: 2stupid4words; buchanan; cheney; hardball; harrywhittington; loonyleft; matthews; quailgate; ronnotareagan; ronreagain; shooting; whittington
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1 posted on 02/13/2006 5:24:00 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Hardball/NewsBusters ping to the Today show ping list.


2 posted on 02/13/2006 5:25:09 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Lets just call Ron "Rectal thermometer "


3 posted on 02/13/2006 5:25:35 PM PST by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

OMG.


4 posted on 02/13/2006 5:25:58 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This is a little off-topic, but isn't it interesting how the Dems tried to grab some of the RWR spotlight by having Ronnie speak, and it did nothing for them, while Zell Miller appearing at the Republican National Convention was a hit?

Maybe it has something to do with Miller being a MAN.

Or maybe it has something to do with Ron Jr. possessing NONE of the qualities that made his father great?

5 posted on 02/13/2006 5:26:02 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (An agnostic for religious freedom, not Islamofascistic multiculti PC secularism)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Oh my God, I got showered by bird shot... how weak.


6 posted on 02/13/2006 5:26:58 PM PST by Porterville (They took our jobs!!! Der dook er jibs!!! Deer took er jabs!!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"You just did [suggest something]. Are you crazy? You just threw that out there. There's no reason to believe this is anything but an accident and you know it."

Chris Matthews actually didn't agree with that!?! I'm impressed. He's usually the idiot making those kinds of remarks.
7 posted on 02/13/2006 5:27:04 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ron "One Hot Rod" Reagan?
BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!


8 posted on 02/13/2006 5:27:16 PM PST by xcamel (One should hope Global Dumbing is reversible.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
a paid MSM analyst has suggested that the Vice-President of the United States might have intentionally shot an innocent man.

I have seen Hissy's program get pretty hysterical, but this one clearly takes the cake. He spent at least 45 minutes on this non-story, but I must say that the segment with Alan Simpson was refreshing. Hissy had to state for the record that he was not crazy.

9 posted on 02/13/2006 5:27:20 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: Darkwolf377

I wonder if twinkle toes was adopted.


10 posted on 02/13/2006 5:27:36 PM PST by Perdogg (I'd rather go hunting with Cheney, than riding in Ted Kennedy's car)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Law enforcement is entitled to investigate this case, to find out what happened..."

Wonder what this wayward son thinks about Vince Foster's "suicide"?


11 posted on 02/13/2006 5:27:37 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: All
Ron Reagan, CSI Corpus Christi.


12 posted on 02/13/2006 5:27:39 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Law enforcement is entitled to investigate this case, to find out what happened, to find out if he had anything against Mr. Whittington

Naw, but if Cheney ever offers to go hunting with Howie Dean or the Leakey Leahey, ....

It's not as if Cheney offered to drive Whittington home from a party or anything.

13 posted on 02/13/2006 5:28:16 PM PST by Jemian (He is no fool to give up what he cannot keep, in order to gain what he cannot lose. -Jim Elliot)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I'll bet L'il Ronnie's had something against lots of men....


14 posted on 02/13/2006 5:28:30 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Earlier today, Ron Reagan was on with Chris Matthews and asked, at least twice, whether Cheney might have been drinking and that's why the Secret Service wouldn't let local law enforcement question him.


15 posted on 02/13/2006 5:28:34 PM PST by Peach (Hillary ran over a cop and didn't even stop.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is precisely why these blabber shows are a waste of time. They feel they need to sensationalize and spin every story and yell at each other, instead of honest debate. I hope, one day, these types of shows and reality shows fall into the dustbin of shame TV


16 posted on 02/13/2006 5:28:50 PM PST by Hayzo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Cheney must be a really bad shot if he intentionally tried to shoot him in the face and only hit him with a couple bb's
17 posted on 02/13/2006 5:29:08 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Bitter, little twit... what won't he say for attention?


18 posted on 02/13/2006 5:29:21 PM PST by onyx
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The pouting amd selfrighteous outrage over the timing of the announcement to the all important press is hysterical...

I knew someone would ask the question..and where better to ask it?


19 posted on 02/13/2006 5:29:40 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Matthews' other guest, notorious Bush antagonist Patrick Buchanan, was only too happy to pour inflammable liquid on the fire:

"Why didn't Cheney invite the sheriff in so the sheriff could find out what happened?"

Pat is officially senile.

20 posted on 02/13/2006 5:30:00 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
WP's Dana Milbank on Olbermann.......


I was asleep at the switch and missed Milbank wearing a matching orange wool cap.

Olbermann, distressed at the fact that no video or still photos were available of the incident, made his own............


21 posted on 02/13/2006 5:30:09 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Peach

So, which one was it then - intentionally shot him or was drunk and shot him?


22 posted on 02/13/2006 5:31:17 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Call me crazy, but I'd still be honored to be invited along on a hunting trip with the VP.

Of course, I wouldn't go sneaking up on him, either :-)


23 posted on 02/13/2006 5:31:36 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: clawrence3

Which ever one poles better for the DNC


24 posted on 02/13/2006 5:32:21 PM PST by Hayzo
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To: Echo Talon

He couldn't make it TOO obvious!


25 posted on 02/13/2006 5:32:42 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Hayzo

LOL - exactly - they are going to be in for a shocker when NEITHER does!


26 posted on 02/13/2006 5:33:19 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: onyx

Is a disgrace....suck up to Libs....MSNBC thought he
would be a draw...only thing that happened was there
were more flies in the studio..check his shorts..Jake


27 posted on 02/13/2006 5:33:44 PM PST by sanjacjake
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ron Reagan has a bony head. I never did like that bonehead.


28 posted on 02/13/2006 5:34:03 PM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If I am not on your ping list, could you add me??

I watch Hairball everyday to see what is making Chrissy pee his pants THAT day...

Today was disgusting in its "speculation"...45 minutes of pure speculation about what/why/when/where/how...and YET they were given the story already.

Oh...except for the late breaking detail that a new "stamp" is required on hunting licenses and Cheney hadn't gotten one..so he got a "warning"...lol


29 posted on 02/13/2006 5:34:20 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Shut up, Skipper.


30 posted on 02/13/2006 5:34:29 PM PST by RichInOC ("There is no way...no way...that you came from my loins."--Ronald Reagan to Skipper.)
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To: onyx

Go back to your playhouse!
31 posted on 02/13/2006 5:34:30 PM PST by scott says (Ah, but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Lib goobers are NOT going to get any traction with this; they may even lose those few conservative Dems that they DO have left.


32 posted on 02/13/2006 5:35:32 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: scott says
ROTFLMAO! Yikes, I see a resemblance!
33 posted on 02/13/2006 5:35:38 PM PST by onyx
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To: clawrence3

The Smoking Gun has info on this matter; investigators determined there was no alcohol involved.

Someone needs to slap Ron Reagan silly.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1577920/posts


34 posted on 02/13/2006 5:36:21 PM PST by Peach (Hillary ran over a cop and didn't even stop.)
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks for your interest - welcome to the ping list!


35 posted on 02/13/2006 5:36:22 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It wasn't even 13 hours; that show is on at 5:00 p.m. EST.

The shooting happened at 5:50 p.m. CST.


36 posted on 02/13/2006 5:36:27 PM PST by Howlin ("QUICK HE'S BLEEDING. CALL THE WASH POST!")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

OH...yeah...I am SO glad you have this list...nothing makes me want to "discuss" more than Chrissy's hysterics...LOL


37 posted on 02/13/2006 5:37:54 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
So there it is. Approximately 13 hours after the story broke on national news, a paid MSM analyst has suggested that the Vice-President of the United States might have intentionally shot an innocent man.

Holy cow. The MSM is starting to resemble the dinosaurs in the tar pits...the more they struggle, the more they dig their own graves.

Clearly, members of the MSM have never been hunting.

I made a post on another thread a few minutes ago describing circumstances where I suddenly realized that I was in a position where my husband could have shot me. And we were hunting for birds (I was only on a look-out position, I didn't have a gun and don't know how to use one). However I have taken classes in awareness and wilderness survival, and I'd heard/seen the bird and wanted to point it out to my husband. I used all my training to walk super-quietly, even on the dry leaves. But when I realized that I couldn't see my husband anymore, though we were both wearing orange vests, I stopped moving until I saw his face and he saw mine and we waved at each other.

Accidents can happen, very easily, while hunting. I've never hunted in my life but I've tagged along enough to know that the combination of adrenaline, trying to hide from the animals (but not from your hunting partner), and the foiliage, etc., can be extremely dangerous.

38 posted on 02/13/2006 5:40:32 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Peach

The line to slap him forms behind me.The little twit needs a tune-up.


39 posted on 02/13/2006 5:41:22 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: hole_n_one

Nice. Brings back fond memories of me actually placing the Nintento gun to the TV screen so that I could get the high score in Duck Hunt (I wasn't much of a shot).


40 posted on 02/13/2006 5:41:48 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When you shoot somebody in the chest - head-on, you have something against them. And you don't bother to just do it with bird shot in a .410 shotgun.


41 posted on 02/13/2006 5:43:07 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
NO. They did NOT do this!

I heard Rove held up quail feathers behind Whittington's hat. And shook them...

42 posted on 02/13/2006 5:43:22 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Democrats: Striving daily to wrong the rights that have been done.)
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To: Peach

It was the same show.

Here is the timeline:

5:50 p.m. CST - shooting

6:30 p.m. CST - Cheney's ambulance removes Whittington from the field.

***Note it is at least a 20 minute ride back to the main ranch -- only then do they get on the way to the local hospital.

Whittington taken to local hospital, examined, treated.

Whittington helicoptered to Corpus Christi Hospital.

7:30 p.m. CST -- White House notified and Andy Card calls Bush.

8:00 p.m. CST or there about -- Rove calls Bush to tell him Cheney is involved.

***Cheney goes to the hospital with Whittington.

Sunday morning, 8:00 a.m. CST -- Cheney meets with sheriff.

8:00 a.m. -- Armstrong begins trying to contact Reporter Powell, finally gives up and gives the story to reporter at 11:00 a.m. CST

Paper immediately puts the story up because Garcia (reporter) says that they called the White House to confirm before they put the story up.

She was patched through to Cheney's spokesperson McBride.

She said that as soon as they put the story on their web site they began receiving calls from all over the country -- so why did it take the MSM until 3 EST to get the story?


43 posted on 02/13/2006 5:43:29 PM PST by Howlin ("QUICK HE'S BLEEDING. CALL THE WASH POST!")
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To: Txsleuth
MSNBC promo---------

HARDBALL.........

The funniest show on TV since Seinfeld!

44 posted on 02/13/2006 5:44:27 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Ok, the truth is Cheney thought he saw a guy in a tutu run in front of him that looked like Ron Reagan. The VP was just having some fun and thought that the chiffon on the tutu would absorb any impact from a 28 gauge bird shot. It was bird shot not BUCK SHOT as reported by some media.
45 posted on 02/13/2006 5:45:16 PM PST by Lacroix
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Ron may be on to something. Check out this story

Iraq War Distracts Bush from Cheney Shooting

By Scott Ott, Editor-in-Chief, ScrappleFace.com

News Fairly Unbalanced. We Report. You Decipher.

(2006-02-13) — White House spokesman Scott McClellan, peppered with reporters’ questions about Vice President Dick Cheney’s accidental weekend shooting of a hunting buddy, said President George Bush was “not immediately informed of the incident because he was too distracted by the Iraq war.”

“If, because of the war, the president doesn’t have time to catch Usama bin Laden,” Mr. McClellan said, “when do you think he’ll find a moment to deal with a quail hunting accident in Texas? ”

In related news, Mr. McClellan said the Bush administration is sticking with its initial ’single-shooter’ theory.

“From all indications,” he said, “the vice president acted alone. Lab reports show that all of the pellets came from a single 28-gauge shotgun which had the Vice President’s fingerprints all over it.”

Despite these assurances, the White House press corps buzzed with conspiracy rumors, including suggestions that the quail, which Mr. Cheney allegedly shot at, had not flown in a completely random, natural pattern, but seemed to intentionally pass in front of 78-year-old attorney Harry Whittington.

46 posted on 02/13/2006 5:46:04 PM PST by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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To: Howlin

Is there any question W has driven the libs and old media absolutely, certifiably crazy?


47 posted on 02/13/2006 5:47:02 PM PST by chiller (every time you call MSM "mainstream" or "lamestream" you confirm their status. "OLD Media" please.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good Lord almighty...it's no wonder they had to adopt Michael Reagan!


48 posted on 02/13/2006 5:49:03 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Islamofascists don't need cartoons. They're already caricatures.)
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To: chiller

Nope......ain't life grand?


49 posted on 02/13/2006 5:51:37 PM PST by Howlin ("QUICK HE'S BLEEDING. CALL THE WASH POST!")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CHENEY_WHITTINGTON?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US


50 posted on 02/13/2006 5:51:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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