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$375-a-night condos, $450 tattoos purchased with Katrina relief funds
wwltv.com ^ | 02/13/06 | Hope Yen

Posted on 02/13/2006 6:24:38 PM PST by Ellesu

The government squandered millions of dollars in Katrina disaster aid, including handing $2,000 debit cards to people who gave phony Social Security numbers and used the money for such items as a $450 tattoo, auditors said Monday.

Federal money also paid for $375-a-day beachfront condos and 10,777 trailers that were stuck in mud and unusable.

Overcharges, poor accounting and abuses will take "months or years" to rectify, the Government Accountability Office and the Homeland Security Department's inspector general concluded in preliminary reports on how billions of dollars in taxpayer money is being spent.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency recognizes it "made many, many mistakes," and is working on improvement, said Homeland Security inspector general Richard Skinner. "But they're not where they should be. In some cases, the government will have little legal recourse to recoup payments to contractors for payments."

Separately, the Justice Department said Monday that federal prosecutors had filed fraud, theft and other charges against 212 people accused of scams related to Gulf Coast hurricanes.

Forty people have pleaded guilty so far, the latest report by the Hurricane Katrina Fraud Task Force said. Many defendants were accused of trying to obtain emergency aid, typically a $2,000 debit card, issued to hurricane victims by FEMA and the American Red Cross.

The GAO report found that up to 900,000 of the 2.5 million applicants who received aid under the emergency cash assistance program -- which included the debit cards given to evacuees -- based their requests on duplicate or invalid Social Security numbers, or false addresses and names.

In other instances, recipients improperly used their debit cards intended for food and shelter for $400 massages, a $450 tattoo, a $1,100 diamond engagement ring and $150 worth of products at "Condoms to Go."

The reports called for stronger controls to verify the eligibility of disaster victims who apply for aid over the phone and Internet, better planning of emergency supplies for hurricanes and improved accounting of FEMA's vast inventory of temporary housing.

Senators decried the problems.

"Once again, FEMA failed to adequately plan for the very type of disaster that occurs virtually every year," said Susan Collins, R-Maine, who chairs a Senate panel reviewing the government's response to the storm.

Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., said hurricane victims and taxpayers alike were being "ripped off." "It's unacceptable and ultimately infuriating. We need to do everything we can to insist that FEMA and DHS prepare for the next disaster," he said.

The White House and Homeland Security officials defended administration actions against the criticism that is still going strong more than five months after the storm.

"I reject outright the suggestion that President Bush was anything less than fully involved," White House homeland security adviser Frances Fragos Townsend said.

And Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff rebuffed the idea that his department was preoccupied with terror threats at the expense of natural disasters.

Chertoff announced the creation of a full-time FEMA response force of 1,500 new employees and the establishment of a more reliable system to report on disasters as they unfold.

The audits released Monday do not try to estimate a total dollar figure on waste and abuse, but GAO auditor Gregory Kutz told senators during a hearing that it was "certainly millions of dollars; it could be tens or hundreds of millions of dollars."

That includes money for hotel rooms for evacuees that were paid at retail cost. Among the charges: $438 rooms in New York City and beachfront condominiums in Panama City, Fla., at $375 a night.

FEMA also may have bought too many temporary homes, including 10,777 units that currently sit empty in sinking mud in Hope, Ark.

Meanwhile, a one-day "snapshot" investigation found a handful of cases where hurricane victims improperly sold free military foodstuffs known as "Meals-Ready-to-Eat" on eBay.

The reports weren't negative. An initial review by Skinner found that FEMA's decision to sign a contract with Carnival Cruise Lines for Hurricane Katrina housing shortly after the Aug. 29 storm "was reasonable under the urgent circumstances."

The six-month, $236 million deal with Carnival for three full-service cruise ships -- which initially sat half empty for several weeks on the Gulf Coast -- had been criticized by lawmakers of both parties as a prime example of wasted spending in Hurricane Katrina-related contracts.

However, Skinner said the decision appeared to be an economical choice "in a high-cost area such as New Orleans so long as occupancy remains high." A review of the contract's specific terms was continuing.

Some lawmakers expressed concern about the integrity of the total $9.2 billion in Katrina contracts awarded so far. Of more than 700 FEMA contracts valued at $500,000 or greater, more than half were awarded without competition, often to politically connected companies such as Bechtel Corp. and AshBritt Inc.

Audits of those no-bid contracts are under way.

"We want to go after individual people, but we also want to go after the big fish that conduct fraud as well," said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; corruption; evacuees; fema; fraud; gummintgiveaways; katrina; katrinafailures; katrinafraud; katrinarelief; otherpeoplesmoney; outofcontrolspending; spendingspree; stopmebeforeispend

1 posted on 02/13/2006 6:24:40 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu
Brought to you by the guys who are going to save us during a nuculer attack.

Duck and cover.

2 posted on 02/13/2006 6:28:40 PM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: zarf

Well, this is what happens when you hand out carte blanche credit cards (or the like) to people with little accountability.

It's also why many Americans get fed up at seeing their money being taken only to go to people that would spend it as such.


3 posted on 02/13/2006 6:30:24 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat

It makes one ponder what they do with the revenue streams that are so much easier to obtain, and so much more predictable.

You know, the tax revenues...


4 posted on 02/13/2006 6:33:05 PM PST by IncPen (Torture should be safe, legal, and rare.)
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To: IncPen

We just had a major "Nor' easter" up here in New England. I was wondering when FEMA was going to send me a debit card??????


5 posted on 02/13/2006 6:37:06 PM PST by Pakeman (I'm 1/2 french 1/2 german. I don't know whether to attack or surrender!)
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To: Ellesu

I've been thinking that maybe the solution would be to abolish FEMA. Then accountability would be put where it belongs, on the first responders.

If it's a huge emergency, the feds can do what they've always done: send in the national guard and send in federal aid funds.

What will they do now? Spend another couple of billion investigating the corruption? They won't get any of the money back, and they won't fire any of the bureaucrats who screwed up, because they all have lifetime employment.


6 posted on 02/13/2006 6:39:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ellesu
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. In the midst of complaining about slow Federal response, our congress is now complaining about emergency relief going to people who didn't deserve it or abused it. Just a quick question. You've got 30,000 refugees in the Astrodome, many of whom have no identification, and some of whom have been wearing the same clothes for four days. How do you distribute aid without delay, while ensuring that everyone who received aid deserved it? Also, after you give someone emergency funds in the form of a $2,000 credit card, even if they were eligible, how do you make sure they spend it on what they should, instead of getting a tattoo?
7 posted on 02/13/2006 6:39:31 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Ellesu
Damned if you do; damned if you don't. Take your pick of which headline you'd prefer:

Massive fraud found in FEMA disbursements
or

Massive bureaucracy delayed payments to Katrina victims

Any mechanism that would have been effective in preventing fraud by those who didn't qualify for the aid would have caused huge delays in getting money to those who did.

8 posted on 02/13/2006 6:40:52 PM PST by Bob
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To: Richard Kimball

Maybe make it like WIC, where the card or coupon or whatever is only good for what it's supposed to be used for? Not sure how that'd work mechanically - just a thought.

I know when I worked as a grocery store checker, back in the day, the store's system was built so WIC coupons could only be used for certain items. You could present all the WIC coupons you wanted, but you couldn't buy your smokes or beer with 'em.


9 posted on 02/13/2006 6:42:37 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Ellesu
And there those who say our government is devoid of compassion. Nah. Not after reading this account of your government's generosity with your money towards those in need.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

10 posted on 02/13/2006 6:43:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ellesu

"Once again, FEMA failed to adequately plan for the very type of disaster that occurs virtually every year," said Susan Collins, R-Maine

Uh, yeah. A major US city is nearly wiped off the map virtually every year.


11 posted on 02/13/2006 6:43:49 PM PST by snakedriver
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To: Richard Kimball
Also, after you give someone emergency funds in the form of a $2,000 credit card, even if they were eligible, how do you make sure they spend it on what they should, instead of getting a tattoo?

FEMA should have worked out deals with grocery chains and retail chains (with restricted item lists) and a few other places LONG before these cards are handed out like candy to a bunch of kids. Have the chains bid for addition to the list by providing some sort of discount to compete for an essentially captive market. And make darn sure that no alcohol, cigarettes and other unnecessary purchases can even be made.

Of course, our government is composed of idiots for the most part.

12 posted on 02/13/2006 6:44:59 PM PST by Centurion2000 ("If you're going to shoot somebody, Shoot! Don't talk!")
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To: Richard Kimball
I remember telling the wife to go get a couple bags of ice they were passing out. I should have known better as when I got ice and water they were just putting in the car as fast as they could - no questions asked. I was sure we would get power soon so I told her just a couple bags of ice. That is what I got two bags each with 4 - 8 pound bags of ice. I had to pass them around the neighborhood.

Just one small example.
13 posted on 02/13/2006 6:46:15 PM PST by gbaker
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To: Ellesu

So...the news media INSISTED that the feds do something...ANYTHING for these people.SO, they buy trailers thinking that these people will be happy to have them...instead, no one wants to stay in them..Money, without any accountability, was given to alleviate suffering...and of course was abused. So now the press...who hyped the story and demanded action NOW show that what they were pushing was ineffectual and wasteful..
Isn't it wonderful to be in the press...they get to ignore their OWN mistakes and their complicity in this mess while lambasting the people who made decisions BASED on their faulty, hysterical reporting.


14 posted on 02/13/2006 6:48:15 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Bob

Massive fraud found in FEMA disbursements
or

Massive bureaucracy delayed payments to Katrina victims


EXCELLENT point!!! Many people at the time were worried about the amount of money given immediately with NO verification or accountability....but the press hyped this thing big time. If anyone suggested a more methodical approach, they were called racists and bigots!
.Don't get me wrong...there was terrible destruction BUT the press saying people were starving (in a space of 2 days) and killing each other all led to the irresponsible decisions made at the time.


15 posted on 02/13/2006 6:54:32 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Ellesu

Don't worry......they'll do a much better job when they're running our health care.


16 posted on 02/13/2006 6:56:41 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Xenalyte; Ellesu

I'll get flamed, but I think the WIC program is one of the most sensible programs to help needy families. I just hate standing behind them at the store. Takes forever...

Here in CA, some counties switched to an EBT type of card for food stamps. Much more efficient. I cannot understand how bungled this evacuation became. Penthouses? Condos? Tattooes and condoms? Ohhhh man : (


17 posted on 02/13/2006 6:57:19 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: Ellesu

Is it too late to cash in? A large gust of wind blew over a bird feeder on my property a few weeks ago. That should be good for a check from the FedGov for $10,000.


18 posted on 02/13/2006 6:59:12 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Ellesu
Ok, one last time:

1. Anyone who chooses to live below sea level; anyone who chooses to live in a coastal area subject to high tides, hurricanes, and floods; anyone who lives in a mobile home in Oklahoma; anyone who lives within 500 miles of an active volcano; anyone who lives on or near a major quake fault deserves exactly what they get.

Conversely, they do not deserve MY MONEY! Let these morons buy insurance and FEND FOR THEMSELVES!

These same nitwits and mutants will rebuild in the same place, they will be hit again and again, and we will have to listen to their whining and begging for money!

Not a penny! Suck it up a-holes and fend for yourselves!

19 posted on 02/13/2006 7:07:51 PM PST by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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To: Xenalyte
WIC coupons could only be used for certain items. You could present all the WIC coupons you wanted, but you couldn't buy your smokes or beer with 'em.

I do not know how WIC coupons differ in form and use from food stamps; however, I have many, many times seen folks at the nearby convenience store use food stamps to purchase a very small "allowable" item ... get a large amount of change ... and spend every bit of it on Lottery tickets. How does one guard against something like this and prevent it?

20 posted on 02/13/2006 7:19:57 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: caryatid

At the grocery store I worked for, WIC users would receive smaller-denomination WIC coupons in change. They'd only get cash back if the change due was under a dollar.


21 posted on 02/13/2006 7:21:06 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Xenalyte; Centurion2000; gbaker
Excellent comments. In every disaster, there's a certain amount of fraud and waste in the relief efforts. I know of people who have been caught hosing down their furniture in hopes of getting new furniture from relief agencies. After the WTC, many of the complaints you heard about survivors not getting paid were disputed claims, in which, for example, an estranged wife, a brother, and parents of a victim all claimed to be the nearest relative.

While the system could certainly work better, Xena's suggestion of using the WIC system (it's now the Lone Star Card in Texas) which limits items that can be purchased, would be a good start. I think that would fit in with Centurian2000's suggestion, also. gbaker, your story is not at all unusual. After a tornado in Texas that affected about a five mile by two mile wide swath, people came from forty and fifty miles away for food, ice and furniture.

These are things that have to be looked at in the future. Even restricting items purchased can't keep someone from buying $150 designer jeans instead of $12 Walmart jeans, but it could put a stop to tattoos, fancy restaurants, etc.

BTW, as an aside, having worked emergency services for a long time in all types of neighborhoods, I've noticed a lot of people on welfare living in government subsidized housing who have been able to come up with enough money for $2000 to $3000 worth of tattoos. This still comes back to the fact that a lot of these people needed the money for food, but were too stupid to save the money, and blew it on junk. you can't give (some) people more money than they can waste or throw away.

22 posted on 02/13/2006 7:23:18 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Ellesu
BUSH'S FAULT!

(it really is)

23 posted on 02/13/2006 7:25:35 PM PST by manwiththehands (Repeal the 17th Amendment. NOW.)
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To: Ellesu
The [US] government squandered millions of dollars...

Doing what they do best...besides BSing their constituencies.

24 posted on 02/13/2006 7:28:16 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter

Why did we need to give people 2000 dollars in the first place. It seems to me if you don't have insurance, you shouldn't complain about living in a refugee camp with free food anyway. Where is there a freedom to a high standard of living. Once your basic food, and shelter needs are met, you can stop asking me for money.


25 posted on 02/13/2006 7:37:27 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Doc Savage

Doc, I live by the sea. But I am PREPARED. If you want to find a first responder first look in the mirror. I am prepared to survive nicely for at least two weeks. Set up and ready. My hurricane shelter is 12 inches thick solid reinforced concrete on all four sides with solid door and reinforced jams (steel and lagged).

Got zip from the feds after Charley. I was handing out supplies to the Guard.

FEMA = Darwinism interrupted. Mother nature intended natural disasters to clean out the gene pool.


26 posted on 02/13/2006 8:11:16 PM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter))
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To: RHINO369

I am a reasonably self sufficient human being. The good news was on the Thursday before the storm, I had a client pay him in cash. Almost $4k. Thank God, I didn't deposit it in the bank, b/c my atm cards didn't work for four days. So, I had plenty of money for meals, gas, hotels etc.

But I'll tell you what. You leave home with four hours notice, with the clothes on your back and then be told you can't come home for month or two. I guarantee you, you'll be first in line for one of those debit cards.


27 posted on 02/13/2006 8:12:59 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: Richard Kimball

I really thing the $2k cash was to keep the natives from getting restless. If that meant lap dances or colt-45 so be it.


28 posted on 02/13/2006 8:14:39 PM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter))
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To: Ellesu; All
Senators decried the problems.

Well, sure they did. What else are the useless bustards capable of, with few exceptions? The Katrina debacle is nothing more or less than another example of the infection brought on by generations of government concern and care for those who have made a living out of being less fortunate.

And since waste is promoted at the federal level, why should anyone be surprised that milking the government cash cow is now often the national pastime for the well-to-do as well as for the downtrodden? Katrina's aftermath is but another superb example of why responsibility for society's well-being should always rest with the individual and the the closest form of government possible.

Was it Mark Twain who stated that you get a society full of fools when you try to create a foolproof society?
29 posted on 02/13/2006 8:16:32 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I'll get flamed, but I think the WIC program is one of the most sensible programs to help needy families.

I think so too. If we say we're going to support families, WIC is a good program that supports pregnant women and little kids. You can be working and still qualify (for those FReepers who think only working people deserve food). It sets out exactly what they can buy and I can think there's not much fraud. There's probably plenty of back dealing between the gubmit and the food companies involved, tho, but you can't have everything.

30 posted on 02/13/2006 8:19:21 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking guts, you coward.)
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To: bigeasy_70118

"four hours notice"

I'm curious. How did you only get four hours notice? Katrina had a bead on the Gulf coast for at least three days.


31 posted on 02/13/2006 8:21:05 PM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter))
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To: bigeasy_70118

How did you have only 4 hours notice? I reside in Mississippi and knew Katrina was heading our way DAYS before she hit.


32 posted on 02/13/2006 8:24:55 PM PST by onyx
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To: Sunnyflorida

I am a fairly busy guy. On Friday, I was working and then had dinner with my friend. Didn't check e-mail, didn't watch the news. It was my understanding that the storm was going to miss New Orleans, even late on Friday.

On Saturday, I had a meeting in the morning and met my wife for lunch. We decided to go to Home Depot and board up the house. Then we left at 8 pm Saturday night. The one smart thing I did was fill up with gas Saturday morning as the gas stations in New Orleans were closed by the time we evacuated.

I am sorry I didn't have time to rent a U-haul to move all possessions out of the city. But next hurricane season, I'll make sure to ping you with my evacuation plan to see if it meets with your approval.


33 posted on 02/13/2006 8:28:54 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: onyx

The storm was supposed to hit the Florida peninsula, this was even as late as Friday night. So I would imagine MS had notice. In New Orleans, the evacuation order wasn't given until Sunday morning. I left Sat. night when it became clear the situation wasn't good.


34 posted on 02/13/2006 8:31:29 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: Ellesu

*sigh*


35 posted on 02/13/2006 8:34:37 PM PST by lawgirl (It's times like these I curse the fact that we live in French Polynesia.....)
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To: Ellesu
10,777 trailers that were stuck in mud and unusable

They are not 'unusable'.

They are stuck in Hope, Arkansas because the stupid politicians in Louisiana don't want them in their backyard. To *ell with the people who need them!


the mayor and City Council can't seem to get beyond politics as they continue to argue over where the trailers should go. In the meantime, thousands are in need of the trailers.


Too many politicians and residents saying: "NIMBY - NOT IN MY BACKYARD!"


In its search for places to put them, the agency has run into two roadblocks: a lack of basic services such as water, sewers and electricity, and the not-in-my-backyard attitude of many residents who don’t want their communities turned into giant trailer parks.

36 posted on 02/13/2006 8:46:20 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Ellesu
Same thing in Alabama...

A police officer patrols a row of travel trailers at a Federal Emergency Management Agency staging area on Tuesday, Oct. 11, 2005, in Selma, Ala. The federal government is acquiring temporary homes for victims of Hurricane Katrina far faster than it can distribute them, with more than 9,000 campers and mobile homes now sitting empty at staging areas awaiting delivery.


Not only did the LOUISIANA politicians fail the citizens of N.O. before, during and after Katrina, they are still failing to get their **** together! All they know how to do is stick their hand out for MONEY. Actual HELP can't be embezzled but CASH can be spent on ANYTHING they WANT such as remodeling the GOVERNOR'S MANSION or rebuilding Landrieu's lake home.

37 posted on 02/13/2006 8:54:14 PM PST by kcvl
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To: t2buckeye
...they get to ignore their OWN mistakes and their complicity in this mess while lambasting the people who made decisions BASED on their faulty, hysterical reporting

Exactly.

As somebody else posted on here yesterday concerning Michael Brown's testimony in that hearing on Monday (when he was so nasty about the administration, "The press and the Democrats, after demanding Michael Brown's head on a platter all last September, are now in the position of trying to sew it back on because he's trashing Bush now."

38 posted on 02/13/2006 9:05:49 PM PST by Howlin ("QUICK HE'S BLEEDING. CALL THE WASH POST!")
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To: Xenalyte
could present all the WIC coupons you wanted, but you couldn't buy your smokes or beer with 'em.

Well, Looterguy and his buddies stole all the smokes and booze they needed, as well as everything else that wasn't nailed down, and all nailed down things they could manage to pry up.

Being the generous nation that we are, we donated millions in food to them, so much so, that it's going to waste sitting around unused and unwanted.

So what's a poor confused looter gonna do? He's sitting on a pile of free food, which conveniently conceals the pile of free electronics, jewelry, booze, clothes, etc... they looted, and now, they are being handed thousands of dollars in cash. They have nothing else to spend it on, so why not go get a $450 tatoo. Why not spend $150 at the condom store? Hey, we should be glad that person spent the money on condoms. If only more of these welfare riders would use condoms, a few major problems could be solved in just 2 or 3 generations.

39 posted on 02/13/2006 9:07:28 PM PST by JavaTheHutt ( Gun Control - The difference between Lexington Green and Tiennimen Square.)
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To: radiohead

It is a good program, and we sure could have used it back in the day. Milk, juice, peanut butter, eggs, cheese, cereal. Heck, you can practically live off the darn things. Sometimes people need help to make ends meet.


40 posted on 02/13/2006 9:23:17 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: caryatid
I do not know how WIC coupons differ in form and use from food stamps; however, I have many, many times seen folks at the nearby convenience store use food stamps to purchase a very small "allowable" item ... get a large amount of change ... and spend every bit of it on Lottery tickets. How does one guard against something like this and prevent it? ----You are right. You really cannot safeguard against it unless you stand over them and watch them 24/7. If someone wants to cheat the system, they will find a way.
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41 posted on 02/14/2006 3:35:27 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: Ellesu

This is what you get from the gov't. It isn't just RATS & RINOS either. Every last one of these S.O.B's is crooked.


42 posted on 02/14/2006 3:42:40 AM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: Ellesu
FEMA also may have bought too many temporary homes, including 10,777 units that currently sit empty in sinking mud in Hope, Ark.

How could I ever forget--the hometown of Bill Clinton!

43 posted on 02/14/2006 3:43:32 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Sometimes people need help to make ends meet.

I hear you. Been there, done that. The operative word is 'done.' What bothers me is when people make these programs a lifestyle choice instead of temporary assistance.

44 posted on 02/14/2006 11:28:30 AM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking guts, you coward.)
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