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Bin Laden tapes are as phony as Sept. 11's connection to Islam [from Ph.D. Islamologist and Arabist]
Capital Times ^ | 2-14-06 | Kevin Barrett

Posted on 02/14/2006 3:24:30 PM PST by SJackson

As a Ph.D. Islamologist and Arabist I really hate to say this, but I'll say it anyway: 9/11 had nothing to do with Islam. The war on terror is as phony as the latest Osama bin Laden tape.

It's a tough thing to admit because I know on which side my bread is buttered and dropping Islam from the 9/11 equation is dropping my slice of bread butter-side-down. The myth that 9/11 had something to do with Muslims has poured millions, if not billions, into Arabic and Islamic studies. I finished my Ph.D. last year, so all I have to do is keep my eyes in my pocket and my nose on the ground, parrot the party line, and I'll be on the fast track to tenure track.

The trouble is, it's all based on a Big Lie. Take the recent "bin Laden" tape please! That voice was no more bin Laden than it was Rodney Dangerfield channeling my late Aunt Corinne from Peoria. I recently helped translate a previously unknown bin Laden tape, a real one from the early '90s, back when he was still alive. I know the guy's flowery religious rhetoric. The recent tape wasn't him.

The top American bin Laden expert agrees. Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University's religious studies department, has just published a book of translations of bin Laden's speeches. He says that the recent tape is a fake and that it is possible bin Laden is not even alive.

Fake bin Laden tapes, "verified" by the CIA, are nothing new. Every supposed bin Laden statement since 2001 has been blatantly bogus. The last we heard from the real bin Laden came in his post-9/11 statements to Pakistani journalists: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation. ... I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. ... I had no knowledge of these attacks."

Then on Dec. 13, 2001, as George Bush was whining about the "outrageous conspiracy theories" that were spreading like wildfire, the first and shoddiest of the "bin Laden speaks from beyond the grave" tapes appeared. The video's sound and picture quality were horrible. It showed a big guy with a black beard, doing a passable imitation of bin Laden's voice, claiming foreknowledge, if not responsibility, for the 9/11 attacks, and chortling over their success. The trouble was, the big guy clearly was not bin Laden. He was at least 40 or 50 pounds heavier, and his facial features were obviously different.

The "Fatty bin Laden" tape was widely ridiculed, and I have yet to meet an informed observer who considers it authentic. (If you haven't figured this out yet, go back and look at the images from the tape and compare them to other images of bin Laden.) But the media let the fraud pass without asking the hard questions: Why was the U.S. government waving this blatantly fake "confession" video in our faces?

Perhaps due to the widespread hilarity evoked by "Fatty bin Laden," the next Osama from beyond the grave message had no images it was an audiotape delivered to al-Jazeera in fall 2002. The CIA verified it as authentic and then got a rotten egg in the face when the world's foremost voice identification experts in Switzerland reported that "the message was recorded by an impostor."

Every bin Laden message since then has been equally phony. They are released at moments when the Bush regime needs a boost and the American media go along with the fraud. Remember the bogus bin Laden tape that made headlines right before the 2004 presidential election? If you didn't figure out that it was a CIA-produced commercial for George Bush, I have some great bridges to sell you. Walter Cronkite, bless his heart, opined that Karl Rove was behind that tape. But the rest of the media just kept pretending that the emperor was clothed.

And the fraud continues. The most recent alleged bin Laden tape has been ridiculed by America's top bin Laden expert, yet the U.S. media keep right on holding a transparent fig leaf in front of the emperor! Professor Lawrence believes that this phony tape was designed to distract world opinion from the horrific massacre of Pakistani civilians by an errant CIA drone. But it may have another, more sinister purpose: to prepare public opinion for another false 9/11-style attack designed to trigger a U.S.-Israeli nuclear attack on Iran.

The real bin Laden, who insisted that he had nothing to do with 9/11, has been dead since late 2001 or early 2002. The fake messages have been fabricated by "al-CIA-duh" to support the Bush regime and its phony "war on terror." It is time for Americans to rise up in revolt against the fake terror masters who are looting U.S. taxpayers, torching our Constitution, destroying our economy, and threatening nuclear Armageddon.

Kevin Barrett holds a Ph.D. in Arabic, with a focus on Islamic studies, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is a co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth: http://mujca.com. E-mail: kevin@mujca.com


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy; 911denial; apologist; binladen; binladentape; binladentapes; conspiracytheory; denialaintariver; huntforobl; islamicstudies; islamonazism; obl; osamabinladen; revisionisthistory
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1 posted on 02/14/2006 3:24:32 PM PST by SJackson
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Missing, of course, is who done it.

2 posted on 02/14/2006 3:25:05 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: SJackson

Someone accusing Bush of engineering a protracted war, and this person is from Madison, WI?

GASP!


3 posted on 02/14/2006 3:27:20 PM PST by jra
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To: SJackson
Kevin Barrett holds a Ph.D. in Arabic, with a focus on Islamic studies, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is a co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth.

I rest my case.

4 posted on 02/14/2006 3:27:22 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: SJackson

Cuckoooooooooooooo...


5 posted on 02/14/2006 3:27:48 PM PST by MikeA
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Not really Wisconsin political, but the Capital Times is on such a roll this week. Don't miss Bushies seek to revolutionize the country the wrong way [BerkleyEast tale of Bush and the neocons]
6 posted on 02/14/2006 3:28:14 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: SJackson
Missing, of course, is who done it.

The Joooos? Or perhaps Karl Rove :)

7 posted on 02/14/2006 3:28:19 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Cheney's gun has still killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car - thanks Old Scratch)
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To: SJackson

Interesting...


8 posted on 02/14/2006 3:29:01 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: SJackson
From the Other City of Evil:


9 posted on 02/14/2006 3:29:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SJackson

no barf alert?


10 posted on 02/14/2006 3:29:12 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: MikeA

Evidently, having a PhD in Madison is the equivilent to being a raving lunatic wearing a garbage bag and holding a cardboard sign anywhere else.


11 posted on 02/14/2006 3:29:15 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: SJackson

You're a DUer, aren't you. Everything you post supports a far left worldview, and usually contains the words "neo-con" in them somewhere. I asked you yesterday what your motivations were for posting 2 viciously anti-Bush, anti-liberation of Iraq, anti-war on terror articles yesterday and you refused to respond. I can only conclude you are a troll based on the number of anti-Bush postings you make, including really wacked-out, left wing nonsense like this posting. You are unmasked.


12 posted on 02/14/2006 3:29:51 PM PST by MikeA
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To: rickmichaels

I think he's on the fast-track to tenure at UW-Madison.


13 posted on 02/14/2006 3:30:11 PM PST by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: SJackson

Moonbat alert.

14 posted on 02/14/2006 3:30:50 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Cheney's gun has still killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car - thanks Old Scratch)
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To: L98Fiero

This person keeps posting these wackball articles from "The Capital Times," whatever the hell that is. And they're all equally lunatic as this one. The person who keeps posting them, S. Jackson, refuses to answer my queries as to his/her/its motivations. I think we know what's going on here. We've got a troll on our hands and its name is SJackson.


15 posted on 02/14/2006 3:31:37 PM PST by MikeA
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To: SJackson

"9/11 had nothing to do with Islam."


So much for his credibility.


16 posted on 02/14/2006 3:31:37 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: SJackson
from the University of Wisconsin-Madison

Enough said for me.

17 posted on 02/14/2006 3:32:44 PM PST by Flifuss (SCE to Aux.)
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To: rickmichaels

Huh. I guess all those people rioting and burning embassies around the world are all CIA agents too. And Iran is just chocked full of those pesky CIA folks.


18 posted on 02/14/2006 3:33:10 PM PST by Vortex (Garbage in, Garbage Out)
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To: MikeA
You're a DUer, aren't you. Everything you post supports a far left worldview, and usually contains the words "neo-con" in them somewhere. I asked you yesterday what your motivations were for posting 2 viciously anti-Bush, anti-liberation of Iraq, anti-war on terror articles yesterday and you refused to respond. I can only conclude you are a troll based on the number of anti-Bush postings you make, including really wacked-out, left wing nonsense like this posting. You are unmasked.

While I don't remember your question, you need to consider the possibility that I wasn't interested in bothering to respond.

Clearly you've analyzed my posting history and come to your own conclusion.

Unmasked, one of us perhaps. The nature of The Capital Times is pretty well known.

19 posted on 02/14/2006 3:33:55 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: SJackson

It seems to be Islams war on us not the inverse.

Its time to cut off and cauterize the Islamic cancer that has festered in the West. Islamic enablers like professor d*uche bag needs a serious attitude ajustment.


20 posted on 02/14/2006 3:34:48 PM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
no barf alert?

The source speaks for itself.

21 posted on 02/14/2006 3:34:59 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: SJackson

By the way SJackson, what of at least 2 videotapes of Bin Laden where he is seen and heard claiming credit for 9-11? In October 2001 before the attack on Afghanistan Bin Laden will still disclaiming any involvement in the 9-11 attacks. That came to an end in the Spring of 2002 when a videotape was released showing Bin Laden claiming credit for the 9-11 attacks, as well as at least 2 others after that including the videotape released before the November 2004 election. Those came through Al Jazeera and were translated by independent Arabic translators. Are ALL these people on George W's payroll INCLUDING Al Jazeera?

Hit the road you troll phony. You're exposed for what you are, a DUmmy. You moronic posts from the far left, far lunatic "Capital Times" are a joke and if you actually buy into the drivel they peddle, then you're a simple-minded dupe.


22 posted on 02/14/2006 3:36:31 PM PST by MikeA
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To: SJackson
I'm so glad my tax dollars fund this liberal tripe.

/sarcasm

23 posted on 02/14/2006 3:36:50 PM PST by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: SJackson

Partly right. It is not OBL.


24 posted on 02/14/2006 3:38:15 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: SJackson
I'm not saying this professors allegations are false, but think about how much news you see on the Internet that you don't see reported on TV. Now think about all the REAL investigative reporting that could be done with the resources of TW, Disney, News Corp, and what is actually sent to us over the airwaves.
25 posted on 02/14/2006 3:38:48 PM PST by s2baccha
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To: SJackson

I apologize if I misjudged you. That's why I gave you an opportunity to explain yesterday. When you did not I could only conclude you had something to hide. My apologies.


26 posted on 02/14/2006 3:39:15 PM PST by MikeA
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To: MikeA

Little high strung today? Chill out!

I can't figure out where courtesy has gone on this forum, and why you think anyone should answer you when you're so rude? I don't want to get in a flame war with you - but you're very wrong in your little tantrum.

It's good to know what's being said outside of our own little corners of the world.


27 posted on 02/14/2006 3:39:50 PM PST by justche (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Damn straight, I'll cast the first stone!" - MeanWestTexan)
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To: SJackson

Please tell me this is the Onion or Scrappleface.


28 posted on 02/14/2006 3:40:20 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: SJackson

Mad-i-son! How did I know it was going to be either that or Berkeley?

Though Northwestern is running strong these days!


29 posted on 02/14/2006 3:40:25 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: SJackson

The following is from this nutcases website:

an exciting new rebirth of thought called "Planetization." Like Dr Griffin, the author of Planetization, The Other Kind of Globalization, Bottom Up an Healthy , believes that we are moving into an age of planetary unity, and that this unity must be based on something better than the big lies and brute force deployed by the atheist-Machievellian "globalists" of the Kissinger-Brezhinski-neocon axis. But whereas David Griffin posits process-oriented "global democracy" based on ethically-informed dialogue, Planetization draws on the underlying spiritual traditions of humanity, especially Islam in its universal sense, to propose that the unity of humanity can only be achieved in light of the unity and Law of the Creator (a Oneness and Wholeness of all life)—and that achieving this kind of non-violent unity is a spiritual as much as a political project in a practical, translatable sense. Is there a better global vision being offered here than the one we have? Would it be viable or doable? Could deep unity counter deep deceit? The answer we find, would be in the affirmative. We await more!


30 posted on 02/14/2006 3:41:01 PM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: SJackson
The author ignores the fact that the CIA has been at odds with Bush. In fact, the CIA attempted to embarrass Bush right before the second election by sending Plame's husband, Joe Wilson, to Niger.

If someone at CIA had fabricated the tapes, then there are plenty of others who would "leak" the fabrication to the press.

No Dice!
31 posted on 02/14/2006 3:41:21 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: justche


I can't figure out where courtesy has gone on this forum, and why you think anyone should answer you when you're so rude? I don't want to get in a flame war with you - but you're very wrong in your little tantrum.

It's good to know what's being said outside of our own little corners of the world.

A) I was very polite in asking this person what their motivations were in posting this tripe. They refused to respond. I could only conclude from that they had something to hide.

B) You don't already know what's being said "outside of our own little corners of the world" by these left wing nutbags? It's all the same boilerplate my friend and has been for the last 5 years. Nothing ever changes. You can mouth the words right along with them even as it comes out of their mouths. I don't need to have dung flung in my face over and over to know it stinks.

C) If this person doesn't want to be misjudged they might do well to post a disclaimer that they do not buy into what they are posting. And when asked why they're doing so, they might actually try to respond rather than ignoring what was a very polite request to do so.


32 posted on 02/14/2006 3:43:16 PM PST by MikeA
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To: SJackson
." It is time for Americans to rise up in revolt against the fake terror masters who are looting U.S. taxpayers, torching our Constitution, destroying our economy, and threatening nuclear Armageddon"

No it is time for this guy to move his prayer rug there must be a gas leak of some type there.
33 posted on 02/14/2006 3:43:31 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: L98Fiero
From a thread covering the mock trial of Bush, Blair, and Sharon, this tidbit:

"While in office, they ordered their soldiers to allow the Israeli Mossad to operate in Iraq under the name of Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi, killing, and assassinating Iraqi clerics of both sects."

There it is, Zarqawi is a Jew!!

What is it about Islam that turns people into raving murderous lunatics?
And batsh*t stupid ones, at that?


34 posted on 02/14/2006 3:43:57 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: SJackson
Somebody posted this link on another forum and couldn't find that post again; it's a photography forum. I don't know anything about this website but managed to find it again by googling and didn't spend a great amount of time musing over it, but picture E definitely does not look like any other photos I have seen of Osama. What gives here?

The Fake bin Laden Video Tape

35 posted on 02/14/2006 3:44:28 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Old Professer

It appears the author is willingly lying and knows Islam is behind 9-11. He's just happy about it and wants the US to fall to the Islamists. "Planetization" complete.


36 posted on 02/14/2006 3:44:29 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: ModelBreaker
Please tell me this is the Onion or Scrappleface.

Well, The Onion began in Madison, but no, this is the mainstream media. And lots of people believe it.

37 posted on 02/14/2006 3:45:27 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: MikeA

He isnt a troll by any means.


38 posted on 02/14/2006 3:46:02 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: L98Fiero

LOL!


39 posted on 02/14/2006 3:46:49 PM PST by carlr
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To: SJackson

40 posted on 02/14/2006 3:46:52 PM PST by oldleft
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To: Old Professer
Planetization draws on the underlying spiritual traditions of humanity, especially Islam in its universal sense

So this might be the Minister Farakhan version of Islam, UFO and stuff.

41 posted on 02/14/2006 3:46:56 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: Aliska

That's probably because in picture E Bin Laden is smiling. In all the other photos he is not. Most people look different when smiling than not. Look at the other stills from that video. It is definitely Bin Laden. I have seen the videotape and it is definitely him. It contains very clear views of Bin Laden and is without a doubt Bin Laden.


42 posted on 02/14/2006 3:46:58 PM PST by MikeA
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To: SJackson
Kevin Barrett holds a Ph.D. in Arabic, with a focus on Islamic studies, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

Proving once again that even mental defectives can get PHDs

43 posted on 02/14/2006 3:47:20 PM PST by Casloy
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To: bill1952

He isnt a troll by any means.

I'm glad to know that. I just wish he had answered me yesterday when I queried him politely as to why these constant postings from the Capital Times.


44 posted on 02/14/2006 3:48:00 PM PST by MikeA
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Hey Mikey,

I think you've had too many cups of espresso laced with angel dust.

SJackson didn't write the article...he just posted it. And I'm glad he did.


45 posted on 02/14/2006 3:48:59 PM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful muslim...The Ultimate Oxymoron!)
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To: Vortex
burning embassies around the world are all CIA agents too

And the CIA was able to convince a bunch of Saudi Arabs to committ suicide by flying airplanes into buildings.

46 posted on 02/14/2006 3:49:28 PM PST by Casloy
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To: SJackson

Yeah that's it, Rove's cranking out Osama tapes in the White House basement, but he forgot to plant the WMDs in Iraq.


47 posted on 02/14/2006 3:51:21 PM PST by garv
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To: MikeA

"It contains very clear views of Bin Laden and is without a doubt Bin Laden."

I noticed that as well. It appears as though they took one odd looking frame out of all the footage and said, "See, not him!", while ignoring the rest of the tape.


48 posted on 02/14/2006 3:52:20 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: RouxStir

SJackson didn't write the article...he just posted it. And I'm glad he did.

I didn't say he wrote it now did I? But in posting it without comment he seemed to be endorsing its content. I asked this person yesterday, politely, to explain why he felt the need to constantly post this swill. Maybe you enjoy lunatic rantings, but personally I think this crap takes up space on FR. If I wanted to watch F911 or listen to Cindy Sheehan I'd rent the movie or go to her website respectively. If you think reading leftist ravings are worthwhile, then maybe it is you that's using the angel dust.


49 posted on 02/14/2006 3:52:20 PM PST by MikeA
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To: SJackson

Are you a Larouchie? You sure sound like one. C'mon, fess up, you are one of those airport beggars who thinks Queen Elizabeth was a drug dealer.


50 posted on 02/14/2006 3:53:18 PM PST by Casloy
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