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The United States's long war
Mail & Guardian (South Africa) ^ | 15 February 2006 | Mail & Guardian

Posted on 02/15/2006 3:24:03 AM PST by Cornpone

The message from General Peter Pace, the chairperson of the United States joint chiefs of staff, was apocalyptic. "We are at a critical time in the history of this great country and find ourselves challenged in ways we did not expect. We face a ruthless enemy intent on destroying our way of life and an uncertain future."

Pace was endorsing the Pentagon's four-yearly strategy review, presented to Congress last week. The report sets out a plan for prosecuting what the the Pentagon describes in the preface as "The Long War", which replaces the "war on terror". The long war represents more than just a linguistic shift: it reflects the ongoing development of US strategic thinking since the September 11 attacks.

Looking beyond the Iraq and Afghan battlefields, US commanders envisage a war unlimited in time and space against global Islamist extremism. "The struggle ... may well be fought in dozens of other countries simultaneously and for many years to come," the report says. The emphasis switches from large-scale, conventional military operations, such as the 2003 invasion of Iraq, towards a rapid deployment of highly mobile, often covert, counter-terrorist forces.

Among specific measures proposed are: an increase in special operations forces by 15%; an extra 3 000 personnel in psychological operations and civil affairs units -- an increase of 33%; nearly double the number of unmanned aerial drones; the conversion of submarine-launched Trident nuclear missiles for use in conventional strikes; new close-to-shore, high-speed naval capabilities; special teams trained to detect and render safe nuclear weapons quickly anywhere in the world; and a new long-range bomber force.

The Pentagon does not pinpoint the countries it sees as future areas of operations but they will stretch beyond the Middle East to the Horn of Africa, North Africa, Central and South-East Asia and the northern Caucasus.

The Cold War dominated the world from 1946 to 1991: the long war could determine the shape of the world for decades to come. The plan rests heavily on a much higher level of cooperation and integration with Britain and other Nato allies, and the increased recruitment of regional governments through the use of economic, political, military and security means. It calls on allies to build their capacity "to share the risks and responsibilities of today's complex challenges".

The Pentagon must become adept at working with interior ministries as well as defence ministries, the report says. It describes this as "a substantial shift in emphasis that demands broader and more flexible legal authorities and cooperative mechanisms ... Bringing all the elements of US power to bear to win the long war requires overhauling traditional foreign assistance and export control activities and laws."

Unconventional approach The report, whose consequences are still being assessed in European capitals, states: "This war requires the US military to adopt unconventional and indirect approaches." It adds: "We have been adjusting the US global force posture, making long overdue adjustments to US basing by moving away from a static defence in obsolete Cold War garrisons, and placing emphasis on the ability to surge quickly to troublespots across the globe."

The strategy mirrors in some respects a recent readjustment in British strategic thinking but it is on a vastly greater scale, funded by an overall 2007 US defence spending request of more than $513-billion.

As well as big expenditure projects, the report calls for: investments in signals and human intelligence gathering -- spies on the ground; funding for the Nato intelligence fusion centre; increased space radar capability; the expansion of the global information grid (a protected information network); and an information-sharing strategy "to guide operations with federal, state, local and coalition partners". A push will also be made to improve forces' linguistic skills, with an emphasis on Arabic, Chinese and Farsi.

The US plan, developed by military and civilian staff at the Pentagon in concert with other branches of the US government, will raise concerns about exacerbating the "clash of civilisations" and about the respect accorded to international law and human rights. To wage the long war, the report urges Congress to grant the Pentagon and its agencies expanded permanent legal authority of the kind used in Iraq, which may give US commanders greatly extended powers.

"Long duration, complex operations involving the US military, other government agencies and international partners will be waged simultaneously in multiple countries round the world, relying on a combination of direct [visible] and indirect [clandestine] approaches," the report says. "Above all they will require persistent surveillance and vastly better intelligence to locate enemy capabilities and personnel. They will also require global mobility, rapid strike, sustained unconventional warfare, foreign internal defence, counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency capabilities. Maintaining a long-term, low-visibility presence in many areas of the world where US forces do not traditionally operate will be required."

The report exposes the sheer ambition of the US attempt to mastermind global security. "The US will work to ensure that all major and emerging powers are integrated as constructive actors and stakeholders into the international system. It will also seek to ensure that no foreign power can dictate the terms of regional or global security.

Building partnerships "It will attempt to dissuade any military competitor from developing disruptive capabilities that could enable regional hegemony or hostile action against the US and friendly countries."

Briefing reporters in Washington, Ryan Henry, a Pentagon policy official, said: "When we refer to the long war, that is the war against terrorist extremists and the ideology that feeds it, and that is something that we do see going on for decades." He added that the strategy was aimed at responding to the "uncertainty and unpredictability" of this conflict. "We in the defence department feel fairly confident that our forces will be called on to be engaged somewhere in the world in the next decade where they're currently not engaged, but we have no idea whatsoever where that might be, when that might be or in what circumstances that they might be engaged.

"We realise that almost in all circumstances others will be able to do the job less expensively than we can because we tend to have a very cost-intensive force. But many times they'll be able to do it more effectively too because they'll understand the local language, the local customs, they'll be culturally adept and be able to get things accomplished that we can't do. So building a partnership capability is a critical lesson learned.

"The operational realm for that will not necessarily be Afghanistan and Iraq; rather, that there are large swaths of the world that that's involved in and we are engaged today. We are engaged in things in the Philippines, in the Horn of Africa. There are issues in the pan-Sahel region of North Africa.

"There's a number of different places where there are activities where terrorist elements are out there and that we need to counter them, we need to be able to attack and disrupt their networks."

Priorities The report identifies four priority areas: Defeating terrorist networks, defending the homeland in depth, shaping the choices of countries at strategic crossroads and preventing hostile states and non-state actors from acquiring or using weapons of mass destruction

Lawrence's legacy The Pentagon planners who drew up the long war strategy had a host of experts to draw on for inspiration. But they credit only one in the report: Lawrence of Arabia.

The authors anticipate US forces being engaged in irregular warfare around the world. They advocate "an indirect approach", building and working with others, and seeking "to unbalance adversaries physically and psychologically, rather than attacking them where they are strongest or in the manner they expect to be attacked.

They write: "One historical example that illustrates both concepts comes from the Arab revolt in 1917 in a distant theatre of the first world war, when British Colonel TE Lawrence and a group of lightly armed Bedouin tribesmen seized the Ottoman port city of Aqaba by attacking from an undefended desert side, rather than confronting the garrison's coastal artillery by attacking from the sea."


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1 posted on 02/15/2006 3:24:04 AM PST by Cornpone
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To: Cornpone

"We realise that almost in all circumstances others will be able to do the job less expensively than we can because we tend to have a very cost-intensive force".

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Outsourcing the WOT?

Where's the Mexicans when you need them?


2 posted on 02/15/2006 3:26:17 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John; EBH; Chgogal; evad; American in Israel; Grut; Bombardier; CarrotAndStick; ...

Ping...

This is a low volume ping list. Freepmail me if you want on or off this list.


3 posted on 02/15/2006 3:26:57 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Cornpone
chairperson of the United States joint chiefs of staff

Chairperson?

4 posted on 02/15/2006 3:28:02 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: peyton randolph

Clinton and PC have hurt us in more ways than we can imagine.


5 posted on 02/15/2006 3:31:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Cornpone; All
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6 posted on 02/15/2006 3:32:20 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Cornpone
There must be some great air filters in the offices of the Mail&Guardian to keep the stench, that is So. Africa, away from their nostrils while they type.






7 posted on 02/15/2006 3:32:36 AM PST by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Cornpone
Interesting evolution is the use of the Military.

Of course as in the Cold War this is fraught with difficulties and will todays potential allies be tomorrows potential enemies.

Questions raised are :

Will the regional allies be Democratic or dictatorships.

Will American troops find them self's shoring up unstable or dictatorial governments.

And will surgical strikes be enough will there be a need for more boots on the ground on a semi permanent occupation.

Is this the permanent war as envisaged by George Orwell in Big Brother.

8 posted on 02/15/2006 3:39:02 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh
"Is this the permanent war as envisaged by George Orwell in Big Brother?"

The history of mankind is nothing but the chronology of permanent war. That's what the liberals have never understood.

9 posted on 02/15/2006 3:42:52 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Cornpone
what is your take on this.

As I see it this is the most important thread on FreeRepublic it has had around 6 replies and not one has discussed the central issues, that this thread has raised.

It is leading America in a new more challenging direction.

Americans are going to learn more obscure foreign names for insurgents, towns countries politicians, they are going to get more involved in new and ancient conflicts.

The war on Terror is going global with new fronts going to be established on nearly every Continent.

10 posted on 02/15/2006 3:49:05 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: Abigail Adams; AIC; airborne; AirForceBrat23; Alamo-Girl; ALOHA RONNIE; angelsonmyside; apackof2; ..

FYI ping.


12 posted on 02/15/2006 3:58:09 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: tonycavanagh
We are engaged in WWIII and the West's MSM (US and Europe) refuse to recognize this fact even though the horrible body count of innocents grows daily. It is no longer an ideological war in the conventional sense. It is a cultural war and religion is the central cultural thread of our greatest enemies. It is not a conventional war but a global insurgency led by Islam's fascist 'Brown Shirts'. Unconventional threats require innovative thinking. We will never have enough 'boots' to put on the territory of all those who harbor our enemies. We have to counter with our own guerilla strategy. Perhaps this is the beginning.
13 posted on 02/15/2006 3:59:08 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Cornpone

What's a low volume ping list?

The troop support list I just pinged has 283 FReepers on it.

I thought they should know what we might be in for if we don't keep praying.


14 posted on 02/15/2006 4:07:36 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Cornpone
This is not World War Three, its just a continuation of the left overs of the Cold War .

What we have is a series of terrorist and insurgency groups loosely affiliated to each other at the most.

The root cause of each insurgency is no different to those of the Communists.

Poverty lack of work being a major cause, the dissatisfied masses.

Islam rose because Communism died.

If the aim is to crush Islam then something else will is in its place.

As for countering with our guerrilla strategy. Where do you think the Drug Gangs in South America and the Far East and The drug warlords and Islamic groups got there training and taste for unconventional war in the first place.

The Cold War against the Soviet Union.

As I mentioned before who is to say that the groups we arm and train to fight the Islamic militants today may not be the enemy tomorrow.

Before we moved into Afghanistan and Iraq I stated on FR that it will lead to nation building in both countries because the nature of that war dictates it to be so.

I am prepared to wager a large sum that this will also lead to America being involved in Nation Building in other parts of the word.

As for fighting a gueriller war with out boots on the ground it could lead to that country falling as did those that bordered South Vietnam.

15 posted on 02/15/2006 4:14:46 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh
I am prepared to wager a large sum that this will also lead to America being involved in Nation Building in other parts of the word (sic).

And you think someone here is dumb enough to take that "bet"?

16 posted on 02/15/2006 4:18:08 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: tonycavanagh

P.S. Communism is not dead.


17 posted on 02/15/2006 4:19:14 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
"What's a low volume ping list?"

I was referring to my ping list. By low volume I mean I don't ping the people on my list very often...like maybe once a week or so.

18 posted on 02/15/2006 4:22:44 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Cornpone
The history of mankind is nothing but the chronology of permanent war.

While I would remove the word 'permanent'... I agree wholeheartedly.

American history textbooks were basically a chronology of our wars & conflicts... prior to the cataract of politically-correct socialism. One could go further and say that a perceived weakness or an open FEAR of conflict is the cause of most wars.

19 posted on 02/15/2006 4:23:37 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: patriciaruth
re :P.S. Communism is not dead.

I agree but it is at the moment as a rallying cry to the third world masses. Islam seems to have taken over.

It would be ironic is in defeating Islam we allowed Communism to reignite.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

20 posted on 02/15/2006 4:23:45 AM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: Cornpone
The plan rests heavily on a much higher level of cooperation and integration with Britain and other Nato allies, and the increased recruitment of regional governments through the use of economic, political, military and security means. It calls on allies to build their capacity "to share the risks and responsibilities of today's complex challenges".

That is a mighty tall order on its face, as we watch "allies" barter with Iran and Hamas now. This is going to require that internally the international diplomacy is better supported. Which means, that the Al Gore's of the US, sit down and shut up for they do not know who the enemy is.

I notice no mention of the UN, but of regional/local forces and allies. In some cases being considered better 'equipped' to deal with the challanges of the area? So what does that mean in conflicts like Darfur?

How will conflicts be determined? Which will call upon the US to interfere?

And what is to be done with our own divided nation? The hearts and minds of the American people must be won too. Perhaps there should be more cartoons, as that seems to one of the few things that moved them out of the comfortable left leaning home for a bit.

21 posted on 02/15/2006 4:25:02 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: johnny7
"One could go further and say that a perceived weakness or an open FEAR of conflict is the cause of most wars."

I find it sad but I suspect it is fear that makes the world go round...but that's a long story.

22 posted on 02/15/2006 4:26:18 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: EBH
"That is a mighty tall order on its face, as we watch "allies" barter with Iran and Hamas now. This is going to require that internally the international diplomacy is better supported. Which means, that the Al Gore's of the US, sit down and shut up for they do not know who the enemy is."

I suspect most of the world, including our 'allies', are trying to find their landing spot as they struggle with the fact our power is diminishing in relation to other, rising global powers (China, India and others). However, sooner or later birds of a feather will flock together as it becomes increasingly evident we (all civilized peoples including India and China) face a common threat...Islam.

23 posted on 02/15/2006 4:31:15 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: tonycavanagh

"It would be ironic is in defeating Islam we allowed Communism to reignite."

Which is exactly why President Bush is filling the void up with Freedom, Liberty and Democracy!

LLS


24 posted on 02/15/2006 4:32:32 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: tonycavanagh

We can't defeat Islam. We might be able to cause it to be reformed.

Christianity had Martin Luther and some other notables. At the moment the greatest Islamic reformer seems to me to be George W. Bush.


25 posted on 02/15/2006 4:34:45 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: tonycavanagh; patriciaruth

Islamm was a danger, 1300 years BEFORE Communism and it's still a danger -- it was an evil thing BEFORE communism and still is now, AFTER communism. Get over the cold war.


26 posted on 02/15/2006 4:35:26 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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To: johnny7

Yes, war among humans is not permanent.

I believe there are 47 years or so in the entire recorded history of the world where no one was fighting somewhere on the globe.


27 posted on 02/15/2006 4:36:35 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Cornpone
The reference to TE Lawrence's role in the attack on Aqaba. It is told in his book "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom," and the movie "Lawrence of Arabia."

I remember a key scene in the movie when crossing the Nafu desert Lawrence went back to same a young boy that was missing. Omar Sharif told him, "It is written" he is dead. Lawrence went back for him, found him and saved him, and then said to Sharif "Nothing is written." This scene explains a lot about the difference in the Arab and Western cultures. Arab cultures are much more fatalistic, while we believe in free will. I liked in Saudi Arabia for 5 years and it was very common for Arabs to say that something happened because Allah willed it. They actually believe that someone could be murdered and that was Allah's will. What this means is that Arabs will go with the flow if they think it is predetermined.
This does not mean that Arabs are in sync with each other. The other scene in "Lawrence of Arabia" that is memorable is after Lawrence and his Arabs have taken Damascus and they are all gathered around a huge table trying to agree on who is responsible for what. Tribal differences prevail and the city collapses, so the British have to take over and run the city. Arabs are very family and tribal oriented, and it is hard to get them to agree.
28 posted on 02/15/2006 4:37:59 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Cronos

The Soviet Union has disbanded, but communism has merely taken a blow and is regrouping.


29 posted on 02/15/2006 4:39:24 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: chasio649

Why not? We outsourced the invasion of Ashcanistan and that worked pretty well.


30 posted on 02/15/2006 4:42:21 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Cornpone
"The Long War"

Almost 1400 years now.

31 posted on 02/15/2006 4:45:39 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: metesky

The whole point of this article is that the invasion can go well whether we use irregular indigents (Afghanistan) or infantry divisions of the U.S. armed forces (Iraq).

BUT

We are facing a rise in attacks from the Taliban in Afghanistan (with Canada and Australia now sending more troops to help counter it)

AND we face continuing attacks on our forces in Iraq.

Thinking the Islamic radicals in Afghanistan and Iraq are going to go away is like thinking the fascist liberals in the U.S. are going to go away.

I believe we are in for a long haul on both fronts.


32 posted on 02/15/2006 4:48:59 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Cornpone
towards a rapid deployment of highly mobile, often covert, counter-terrorist forces.

Iran is toast,it just doesn't know it yet.

33 posted on 02/15/2006 4:49:34 AM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: patriciaruth

No, the problem isIslam period -- not communism. Communism has been proven wrong and everyone knows it. Isllam has been an evil since the 7th century.


34 posted on 02/15/2006 4:51:36 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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To: patriciaruth

I felt that statement was pretty safe... even here.;)


35 posted on 02/15/2006 4:51:48 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: mdittmar

Have you looked at Iran on a map?

Have you compared the land mass and the population of Iran to Afghanistan and Iraq?

Iran is neither toast nor a piece of cake.


36 posted on 02/15/2006 4:52:20 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth

Thanks for the ping.


37 posted on 02/15/2006 5:01:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Peach; Mo1; Dog; Miss Marple; Iowa Granny; Molly Pitcher; Txsleuth; Soul Seeker; saveliberty; ...
The report exposes the sheer ambition of the US attempt to mastermind global security. "

Indeed, because we are the only ones who can.

PING!

38 posted on 02/15/2006 5:01:59 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Mainstream Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: Cornpone
The emphasis switches from large-scale, conventional military operations, such as the 2003 invasion of Iraq, towards a rapid deployment of highly mobile, often covert, counter-terrorist forces.

And hopefully lots and lots of cruise missiles.

39 posted on 02/15/2006 5:03:31 AM PST by bikepacker67 (Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
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To: Cronos
Communism has been proven wrong and everyone knows it.

@@ rolling eyes up in head.

Gosh, you could have fooled Chavez, the People's Republic of China, a large contingent in Russia, North Korea, many U.S. university professors, the MSM, Hollywood, etc. etc.

Communism fielded many fellow travellers and dedicated Marxists throughout the United States and the world before the Soviet Union broke up. These people were dazed for a while, but not defeated.

They have found an ally in radical Islamics. They are riding the back of a tiger, IMO, but they have deluded themselves into believing that bringing the U.S. to its knees is the most important thing.

They fail to understand their new ally. They think once the U.S. is eviscerated that the radical Islamics are merely peasants/untutored barbarians who will be brushed away by the historic broom sweeps of socialism and communism.

The dead hand of communism is going to hand over nuclear technology to the radical Islamics and even more deadly is going to provide them with a bully pulpit for years to come.

40 posted on 02/15/2006 5:03:40 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth; kosta50
ok, FACT -- Islam arose in the 7th century
FACT -- Isslam killed millions and conquered Christian territories like Syria, Egypt etc.
FACT -- Isslam threatens the world and has not self-destructed.

FACT -- Issslam is the enemy of today -- face reality
41 posted on 02/15/2006 5:05:59 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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To: tonycavanagh
"As I see it this is the most important thread on FreeRepublic it has had around 6 replies and not one has discussed the central issues, that this thread has raised."

What's to discuss?? Pace is obviously right, and anyone with a brain understands he is.

42 posted on 02/15/2006 5:06:47 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Arabs are very family and tribal oriented, and it is hard to get them to agree

Sounds like something exploitable if necessary.

43 posted on 02/15/2006 5:07:06 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Mainstream Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: patriciaruth
Have you compared the land mass and the population of Iran to Afghanistan and Iraq?

OMG your right,contact Rumsfield quick!

44 posted on 02/15/2006 5:09:03 AM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Cornpone
the conversion of submarine-launched Trident nuclear missiles for use in conventional strikes

I can't figure out of they mean converting the missiles to non-nuclear, or something else.

Regardless, the Trident subs are very cool.

45 posted on 02/15/2006 5:09:10 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Mainstream Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: Calpernia

ping


46 posted on 02/15/2006 5:09:47 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Mainstream Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: tonycavanagh
"This is not World War Three, its just a continuation of the left overs of the Cold War . What we have is a series of terrorist and insurgency groups loosely affiliated to each other at the most. The root cause of each insurgency is no different to those of the Communists. Poverty lack of work being a major cause, the dissatisfied masses. Islam rose because Communism died.

Balderdash. The only similarity is that they are both idiologically driven. The two philsophies are totally at odds with on another. "It's all about being poor" is typical Euro-twit thinking. The biggest purveyors of Islamofascism are the very wealthy Saudis.

47 posted on 02/15/2006 5:10:37 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: prairiebreeze

Thank you, prairiebreeze! I remember all of the wailing in the Pentagon when Rummy announced that he was going to reorganize and restructure it. It may have been announced prior to 9/11 but I didn't pay attention to it until shortly thereafer. Lots of yelps of pain and distress by those who may have meant well, but needed to see that we can't continue to do what we used to do.

This is a challenge in the private sector too. Trying to show coworkers that there may be an easier way to succeed while the inclination might be "but we've always done it this way."


48 posted on 02/15/2006 5:10:59 AM PST by saveliberty ( :-) I am a Snowflake and Bushbot.)
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To: Cronos

We have more than one enemy today. If you focus on only one, the others will stab you in the back.


49 posted on 02/15/2006 5:11:46 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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I quite agree, patriciaruth, but this is not new. President Bush told us all several years ago that this would be a long war "like no other", and I have never forgotten that.

We've had SF, Delta and CIA teams busy all over the world for a couple of years now and whenever I see some country or other making a major terrorist bust, in the back of my mind I always think our men and women have struck again whether they get the public credit or not.

I also agree that these radicals will not go away with a single defeat or even three, four or five defeats.

It is my personal belief that they, their families and their decendents must be made to bleed and suffer the way we made the Germans and Japanese bleed, suffer and die in WWII.

Or we could throw in the towel and live with our dhimmitude.

50 posted on 02/15/2006 5:16:49 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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