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Secret Tapes Show Saddam's Son-in-Law Admitted WMD Deception (Partial Transcript)
ABC News ^ | February 15, 2006 | Brian Ross

Posted on 02/16/2006 4:48:11 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

The following is a translation of portions of one pivotal tape-recorded meeting that took place in late April or May of 1995. In it, Saddam Hussein and his senior aides discuss the fact that United Nations inspectors had uncovered evidence of Iraq's biological weapons program — a program whose existence Iraq had previously denied. At one point, Hussein Kamel, Saddam's son-in-law, and the man who was in charge of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction efforts can be heard speaking openly about hiding information from the U.N.

SADDAM HUSSEIN: Lieutenant General Hussein

HUSSEIN KAMEL: Thank you, sir.

Sir, I would not be speaking so openly if it were not for your excellency's and Mr. Tariq's clarification and statement that we produced biological weapons.

We did not reveal all that we have. On the subject of missiles, they can bring up three issues with us now, in one year or in two years' time. They are undeclared — one of them being the location. Secondly, they don't know about our work in the domain of missiles. Sir, this is my work and I know it very well. I started it a long time ago, and it is not easy. The issues are more dangerous, a lot more dangerous than what they came to know. I am explaining to your excellency, sir.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; okcbombing; saddam; saddamtapes; wmd

1 posted on 02/16/2006 4:48:13 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yeah, yeah, yeah, ... But Bush Lied! But Bush Lied! But Bush Lied! [\sarc]


2 posted on 02/16/2006 4:49:38 AM PST by TexGuy
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

GREAT POST!

YO SOOOOO ROCK!


3 posted on 02/16/2006 4:50:25 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG.....(Cedar Dave has admitted to being 2 of the 4))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Why do people tape themselves and write memo's about incriminating things?


4 posted on 02/16/2006 4:51:34 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Scott Ritter will soon claim that these recordings are fraudulent.

Watch.


5 posted on 02/16/2006 4:52:34 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The liberal MSM finally getting a clue now that it's widely perceived that Iraq never had WMD. Almost like the treasonous A-Holes planned it that way.


6 posted on 02/16/2006 4:54:55 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: satchmodog9
Why do people tape themselves and write memo's about incriminating things?

I can only think of two reasons:

1. Self-protection, since they think someone else may say something that can be used against them later. Also, if they dissemble to one person, then they can go back in the tape and learn the lie so they can keep their story straight.

2. Arrogance, since they think they are significant enough that every meeting, every word will be of interest to posterity - and not in the way it is now.

7 posted on 02/16/2006 4:55:31 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I didn't know Karl Rove was fluent in Arabic AND able to mimic the voices of Saddam, his family, and his cabinet so well! /sarc


8 posted on 02/16/2006 4:57:20 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Thanks! (LOL!) Did you happen to see Nightline last night? I fell asleep and missed it, so I was looking for info on the Saddam tapes this morning.


9 posted on 02/16/2006 4:57:25 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The Bush Administration has been pathetically incompetent in getting tapes/documents translated, something like only 5% of relevant information has even been looked it.

There is NO excuse for this.


10 posted on 02/16/2006 4:58:56 AM PST by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

LOL! NOPE! I was a sleepy head too! but then woke up at 3:45 am!!! OY!


11 posted on 02/16/2006 5:00:09 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG.....(Cedar Dave has admitted to being 2 of the 4))
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To: conservativecorner

The MSM ain't going down on this without their usual fight...yesterday's Brian Ross piece included the allegation that the Bush admin was tring to keep these tapes secret (goes to the current "culture of secrecy" meme) and this piece conveniently includes a line about the Iraqi's getting their raw materials for WMD from America.

D'ya think they could have found an extract that didn't have that in it?...I believe there are only some 30,000 tapes per John Loftus and still they had to find a bit with a hidden slam.


12 posted on 02/16/2006 5:12:49 AM PST by Redneck Limey
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To: satchmodog9
Ask Richard Nixon that (if he were still alive)...

I think it comes down to pride, arrogance and power.
13 posted on 02/16/2006 5:18:24 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm

Why are WMDs even an issue anymore? Why aren't we, the members of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, pressing this BBC article to the fullest?


14 posted on 02/16/2006 5:21:01 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: tomahawk

I can only guess that there aren't nearly enough trusted translators that can translate Arabic. What are the odds of speaking Arabic and not being a Muslim?


15 posted on 02/16/2006 5:22:23 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Not the type of the weapons, not the volume of the materials we imported, not the volume of the production we told them about, not the volume of use. None of this was correct. They don't know any of this... As for the nuclear, we say we have disclosed everything but no. We have undeclared problems in nuclear as well, and I believe that they know. There are teams working with no one knowing about some of them... I go back to the question of whether we should reveal everything or continue to be silent. Sir, since the meeting has taken this direction, I would say it is in our interest not to reveal.

This was four years after Saddam Hussein made an agreement to disclose and destroy all of Iraq's chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons. He made that agreement to end the Gulf War and save his own skin.
16 posted on 02/16/2006 5:36:22 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: eeevil conservative

I am glad I am not the only one up early....Chase woke me up at 5:30....yawn.


17 posted on 02/16/2006 5:36:46 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I was leary of this show,...because I don't like Brian Ross...and they really didn't spend much time on this story...

Aside from what you posted...there were a few things that made it seem like Saddam either thought he had WMDs and didn't, or that Saddam was trying to fool others into thinking they still had them...

and then Ross ended the segment by saying that "both sides of the arguement over whether Iraq had WMDs would find enough in the tapes to make the case for their side"...

IOW...in HIS opinion, the tapes do NOT prove that Iraq had WMDS...even though it sure did sound like it...


18 posted on 02/16/2006 5:39:56 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

LOL!!!

OY!!

Bless your heart!!!


19 posted on 02/16/2006 5:40:15 AM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG.....(Cedar Dave has admitted to being 2 of the 4))
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To: tomahawk
Good Morning tomahawk:

...only 5% of relevant information has even been looked it. There is NO excuse for this.

Perhaps you might speak, read & write Arabic? Would you like to learn? If so, we can find some work for you. President Bush arranged incentives for those who care to learn the language. Check your local University, Arabic is actually quite easy to learn.

Mas Salam, OLA

20 posted on 02/16/2006 5:42:16 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Even if your mother says she loves you, check it out.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I say be sure to give hits to the source as this will only encourage the LSM to publish more on this info.


21 posted on 02/16/2006 5:52:37 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: satchmodog9

Ask Paris Hilton.


22 posted on 02/16/2006 5:53:37 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: conservativecorner

Like I said, people need to be sure to give these articles lots of hits. It's the only way the LSM might get a clue they need to keep digging and publishing in this direction.


23 posted on 02/16/2006 5:54:27 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Redneck Limey

Now why would Bush want to keep these tapes secret? What is the LSM theory on THAT?


24 posted on 02/16/2006 5:55:21 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Txsleuth

Fortunately, Brian Ross doesn't get to decide what the American people think the tape proves and does not prove.

The info just needs to get out there. I am confident that any doubt will be resolved against the Butcher of Baghdad.


25 posted on 02/16/2006 5:57:24 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

INteresting---were you kidding or serious that Arabic is easy to learn?


26 posted on 02/16/2006 5:58:42 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: satchmodog9

Because they think they can do it without getting caught.


27 posted on 02/16/2006 6:00:41 AM PST by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but not as often as it should be.)
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To: DB

Lots of Israelis are bilingual, then there are the Lebanese Christians and the Palestinian Christians, and the Iraqi Chaldean Chrisitans, and then plenty of Iraqis who should be on our side.

So why don't they have more translators? Beats me.


28 posted on 02/16/2006 6:10:26 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

... and you probably found this morning what I did ... Nothing!


29 posted on 02/16/2006 6:23:26 AM PST by DHC-2
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To: eeevil conservative

When is the SPECIAL going to be on...I haven't seen anything....LOL they probably can't find anyone to host it.....really LOL


30 posted on 02/16/2006 6:25:35 AM PST by Youngman442002
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To: satchmodog9
Why do people tape themselves and write memo's about incriminating things?

some people like to gloat and brag about coming up with elaborate plans that fool people that are known not to be able to be fooled.
31 posted on 02/16/2006 6:30:19 AM PST by Element187
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

How do we know these tapes and transcripts are legitimate? It's only Bush & Co trying desperately to conceal the truth about the lack of WMD in Iraq. Bush lied before and now he has to make up more lies because of his dropping popularity and the culture of corruption he is leading in Washington. These tapes aren't proof and were likey obtained without FISA approval. It's all just a smoke screen.

</ moon bat sarcasm>


32 posted on 02/16/2006 6:38:01 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I go back to the question of whether we should reveal everything or continue to be silent.

And soon after this comment, Hussein Kamel was killed.
33 posted on 02/16/2006 6:38:47 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it; Right is right even if no one does it.)
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To: doc30
How do we know these tapes and transcripts are legitimate? It's only Bush & Co trying desperately to conceal the truth about the lack of WMD in Iraq. Bush lied before and now he has to make up more lies because of his dropping popularity and the culture of corruption he is leading in Washington. These tapes aren't proof and were likey obtained without FISA approval. It's all just a smoke screen.

Wow. You have perfected Moonbatese.
34 posted on 02/16/2006 6:40:12 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it; Right is right even if no one does it.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
From the last paragraph:

I go back to the question of whether we should reveal everything or continue to be silent. Sir, since the meeting has taken this direction, I would say it is in our interest not to reveal. Not just out of fear of disclosing the technology we achieved, or to hide it for future work. No. The game has gone on for too long. And now it has become clear to many officials of countries that are coerced to work with America…

We need more tapes translated.

35 posted on 02/16/2006 6:41:02 AM PST by Penni
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To: doc30

Now there is some sarcasm that made me smile. Thanks.


36 posted on 02/16/2006 6:42:39 AM PST by Penni
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I heard the guy (ex-Warrant officer) on the radio last night who trnaslated these tapes. He was taking about how difficult it was to get anyone to pay attention to him. He sent a report to the FBI and the DOD. He's supposed to present these at an intelligence conference this week.


37 posted on 02/16/2006 6:44:52 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Kerretarded; Penni

I'm from Canada and attended college there, too. I had to learn the language in order to survive! Thank goodness conservatism is socially acceptable in most parts of the U.S.!


38 posted on 02/16/2006 6:53:47 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The NY Post has an article on this as well.

IRAQ'S WMD SECRETS
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/61988.htm


39 posted on 02/16/2006 9:46:13 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: TexGuy

But Bush DID lie. When he told us the WMD intel was wrong, and that there were no weapons in Iraq, he did lie.

Actually, not a lie. A person has to knowingly be distorting the truth and saying something that he or she knows is not true. When President Bush delivered the reasons for going to war (that spurred Congress to authorize the use of American military in Iraq, H.J.Res. 114, 77 yeas, 23 nays) he believed them. Therefore, even if untrue, which it wasn't, it was not a lie.


40 posted on 02/16/2006 10:12:44 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (I'm currently debating a big-time peace activist. I'll post it, so ping/mail me to read it when I do)
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To: wouldntbprudent
Good Evening wouldntbprudent:

Interesting---were you kidding or serious that Arabic is easy to learn?

Arabic is easier to learn than English. In less than six months, I carried conversations like a native three year old.

Subtract Islaminazi pollution from the Middle Eastern culture, and one finds great people, with huge hearts.

Cheers,
OLA

41 posted on 02/16/2006 4:49:21 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Even if your mother says she loves you, check it out.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Thanks for the info.


42 posted on 02/16/2006 7:04:16 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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