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WSJ Opinion Journal ^ | 2-16-06 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 02/16/2006 5:55:44 AM PST by jackv

The Dick Cheney shooting incident will, in a way, go away. And, in a way, not--ever. Some things stick. Gerry Ford had physically stumbled only once or twice in public when he became, officially, The Stumbler. Mr. Ford's stumbles seemed to underscore a certain lack of sure-footedness in his early policies and other decisions. The same with Jimmy Carter and the Killer Rabbit. At the time Mr. Carter told the story of a wild rabbit attacking his boat he had already come to be seen by half the country as weak and unlucky. Even bunnies took him on. Same with Dick Cheney. He's been painted as the dark force of the administration, and now there's a mental picture to go with the reputation. Pull! Sorry, Harry! Pull!

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; noonan; quailgate; replacement
Ok...Cheney shouldn't be expected to step down over this but if he was so distraught and did so...just think how the liberals would be confounded!! Haha! Somebody who could likely win in 2008 would make them crazier than they already are!! hahaha!
1 posted on 02/16/2006 5:55:44 AM PST by jackv
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To: jackv

Columns like this are a sterling example of why our man Ron hired Peggy to write the speeches, and other people to give policy advice.


2 posted on 02/16/2006 5:58:14 AM PST by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but some people are just gluttons.)
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To: jackv

This lead in looks cribbed from another editorial I read on FR yesterday. Something saying that Dick Cheney was now incapable of leading because he had become a laughing stock.

The left is hoping for the death of this man (by heart attack?) on the fantasy belief that VP Cheney would be prosecuted for his death.

They take glee in the misery of others. And they still contend that they support the troops?


3 posted on 02/16/2006 5:59:57 AM PST by weegee (We are all Danes now.)
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To: jackv
No thanks. I've had enough of Peggy Noonan's sophomoric writing. She's angling to be the Maureen Dowd of the WP.

And if she does any "appearances" after this disgusting piece of controversy she has penned, I will immediately turn the program OFF.
4 posted on 02/16/2006 6:00:46 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: RichInOC

Peggy has morphed into a female Bob Novak. Neither one can help taking shots at the administration while still taking cover behind the Republican blind.


5 posted on 02/16/2006 6:01:35 AM PST by Russ
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To: RichInOC

Great post - I was just trying to say something like that when my daughters turned up with a dispute, and by the time I sorted that out, you'd said it better!


6 posted on 02/16/2006 6:01:35 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: RichInOC

Very well put. She is far too much in love with the sound of her own words.


7 posted on 02/16/2006 6:02:09 AM PST by speedy
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To: jackv

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm pretty tired of the "go hunting with Chaney" jokes. It wasn't funny the first thousand times I heard it.


8 posted on 02/16/2006 6:03:31 AM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: jackv

I am so glad the Dims are spending endless time, effort and energy on this...reporting on reporting...thinking up jokes...posting like crazy. Because in a week this will all be forgotten and they will have missed the boat on several meaningful issues. David Gregory is a great example.


9 posted on 02/16/2006 6:08:53 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: RichInOC; Tax-chick; kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul
His recounting of the decision on how to handle it in the press seemed to reflect only incompetence, not malevolence.

Why in the world should he have contacted the press after the shooting? Give Harry's family some peace and quiet before the onslaught of the press.

Come on Peggy... what's more important, the family's right to privacy, or the media's right to know?

10 posted on 02/16/2006 6:09:36 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: jackv
ALREADY POSTED
11 posted on 02/16/2006 6:11:34 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Northern Yankee
Why in the world should he have contacted the press after the shooting?

So they could start palpitating and carrying on more quickly?

Seriously, Mr. Cheney's failure to inform the press just makes me respect him more. He is the best V.P. in my lifetime, and fortunately, President Bush seems to realize what an asset he is.

12 posted on 02/16/2006 6:11:58 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: Russ

After watching Olympic re-runs last night I checked in on Letterman and Leno. Letterman did bitter jokes about the V.P. but Leno to his credit mentioned nary a word about Cheney.


13 posted on 02/16/2006 6:12:25 AM PST by yoe
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To: jackv
Oh Good GAWD!!! Sometimes Peggy needs to get out of the mediasphere and breathe actual oxygen. GWB should refuse VP Cheney's resignation, even if offered. The media needs to be pimp-slapped. They need to be put in their place.

They have former VP Al Gore going to Saudi, taking an honorarium from OBL's family, and delivering an anti-American hate speech that convinces me that he has spent WAY too much time reading The Daily Kos and burning down with Hatred-Powered Howard. They ignore Gore's blatant and contemptible sedition and focus instead on Cheney's hunting accident.
14 posted on 02/16/2006 6:18:38 AM PST by .cnI redruM (a right is something that exists simultaneously among people and imposes no obligation on another.)
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To: Northern Yankee

I agree.

It's not like he drove a girl into a lake drowning her while he himself escaped, and then going back to a party, having a good nights sleep, and THEN telling the authorities!!!!

Or was his first call to the NYTimes or Boston Globe? I can't remember.


15 posted on 02/16/2006 6:22:11 AM PST by uptoolate
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To: Russ

She's morphed into something...


16 posted on 02/16/2006 6:34:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Hey, I'm a Peggy fan. She can write, but I am also a woman, so as long as I don't have to watch her doing that "perpetual ingenue" thingy, (pausing, looking up, running her fingers thru her hair, throaty chuckle) I can visit her words without distraction.

How many things can an ingenue know before an ingenue knows nothing new? I think this is just inside the beltway stuff. Not one of her finest efforts. But I suppose this is how the crowd she runs with thinks. That's not a surprise.


17 posted on 02/16/2006 6:38:01 AM PST by Kay Syrah
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To: jackv

Peggy Noonan's 1990 memoir of the Reagan years, What I Saw at the Revolution, was a mellow, even touching account. But her columns lately show the frustration of an outsider, an increasing bitterness at her irrelevance. Surely not a day goes by that she doesn't wonder why she isn't as indispensible to W as she was to President Reagan. I wonder if it isn't time for Peggy to hit the Refresh button herself.


18 posted on 02/16/2006 6:39:10 AM PST by cloud8
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To: Northern Yankee; RichInOC; Tax-chick; Victoria Delsoul
Come on Peggy... what's more important, the family's right to privacy, or the media's right to know?

This thought has probably already been posted, but I think it's very telling on how the liberals play the "privacy" card when it comes to things like abortion, (homo)sexual or other sexual deviant issues, ect...but scream "their right to know" when it comes to someone's medical condition the minute it happens.

And if they dare say it's "out of concern" they are full of bovine poop.

19 posted on 02/16/2006 6:41:17 AM PST by kstewskis (Buy Danish!)
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To: Northern Yankee; RichInOC; Tax-chick; Victoria Delsoul
Let me rephrase that...the liberal media, commentators, et al. I don't mean to imply that Peggy Noonan is a liberal. However I think she is way off the boat here.
20 posted on 02/16/2006 6:45:34 AM PST by kstewskis (Buy Danish!)
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To: weegee

I don't think Cheyney was hired because of his political skills. Essentially he's GWB's chief of staff. You see, unlike the Democrats who like to crow about how their VP's are 'involved' in policy, Mr. Cheyney actually is -- and it drives them nuts.


21 posted on 02/16/2006 6:51:17 AM PST by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: jackv

I read that Dick has been nominated for the Dan Quail VP Lifetime Achievement Award for a event that will never be lived down.


22 posted on 02/16/2006 6:56:29 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: Tax-chick
Seriously, Mr. Cheney's failure to inform the press just makes me respect him more. He is the best V.P. in my lifetime, and fortunately, President Bush seems to realize what an asset he is.

Exactly right!

I really haven't figured out how Peggy Noonan has seemed to lost perspective of that. Too much time inside the beltway.

23 posted on 02/16/2006 7:22:44 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: RichInOC
"Columns like this are a sterling example of why our man Ron hired Peggy to write the speeches, and other people to give policy advice."

You got that right! If Cheney stepped down we would hear from the Demonic-Rats about about "Cheneys culture of corruption" forced him to step down. Then we would hear that it was really Bush's "culture of corruption" that Cheney acted upon and is just plain evil and he is the "fall guy" for the corrupt Bush. Peggy Noonan is a hell of a speech writer but she has a tin ear when it comes to the day to day political battle. Cheney is a great Vice President. He will be there until the end of the Bush Presidency. If he did resign, which he will not, the Demonic-Rats in the Senate would turn the affirmation process into a political hate circus on whomever President Bush submitted to the Senate. It "ain't gonna" happen!

24 posted on 02/16/2006 7:34:22 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: weegee
Ha ha, the libs are so wrong with their perception.

Dick Cheney can continue to be an impressive leader. Hunting accidents can be viewed as masculine.

Now, if we want funny....


25 posted on 02/16/2006 7:40:43 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Northern Yankee
Too much time inside the beltway.

Yes, I'm afraid so. My response to much of her recent writing has been, "What planet are YOU on, honey?"

She's an outstanding writer, and, I suppose, a fine person, but she doesn't seem to be paying attention to the real world these days ... or even paying much attention to "inside the beltway," if she thinks being Vice President is going to make someone other than Dick Cheney a successful Presidential candidate in 2008. Remember Al Gore, Peggy?

26 posted on 02/16/2006 8:00:56 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: nutmeg

read later


27 posted on 02/16/2006 8:02:14 AM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: Tax-chick
I find it curious that Peggy would advocate any resignation. It would only weaken a Presidency.

Remaining strong and supportive to VP Cheney not only makes this whole scavenging hunt by the media look like it is, but continues to make this Administration look strong, and are able to weather any storm.

I actually think most Americans are counting on President Bush to remain loyal to Vice President Cheney. If he would toss him aside, it would make everything look suspect.

Where's her common sense?

28 posted on 02/16/2006 8:09:58 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: jackv

The democraps would have a SPASM if he did step down and the Pres. picked Condi for VP !!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE EXCREMENT HIT THE ROTATING AIR CIRCULATION DEVICE WHEN THEY PRESS COLLECTIVELY GOES "OH $HIT!!!!"


29 posted on 02/16/2006 8:36:33 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help...)
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To: jackv

Peggy has lost it.


30 posted on 02/16/2006 3:47:46 PM PST by Cathy
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To: jackv
They've already tried the wearing of orange ties, an attempt to take the sting out of the incident by showing they don't feel the sting. Duck! Ha ha!

Noonan plays up the humor of the shooting, though that ended for most conservatives the moment we heard that Whittington's injuries might be more serious than originally reported. Pretty tone deaf for someone who once was one of the best conservative speechwriters.

To publicly speculate on dumping Cheney immediately after he experienced such a personal nightmare goes well beyond tone deafness, it lacks common decency.

His recounting of the decision on how to handle it in the press seemed to reflect only incompetence, not malevolence.

Incompetence at what? Informing the press of a personal matter that did not affect national security? Having more concern for his friend than for feeding the media sharks? Oh, I get it! Peggy still considers herself one of the sharks! Too bad, I had a higher opinion of her.

As for "Pull! Sorry Harry! Pull!," you moron, they weren't trap shooting.

Peggy, please either stop digging, or retire.

31 posted on 02/16/2006 4:47:25 PM PST by TChad
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To: Northern Yankee; kstewskis
Well, well, well, even Peggy Noonan isn't immune to media bias. I thought only plebeians were influenced by the MSM. We now have Reagan's speech writer not only being influenced by the liberals' criticism on Cheney, but she is dishing out some of her own:

So Mr. Bush may feel in time that he has reason to want to put in a new vice president in order to pick a successor who'll presumably have an edge in the primaries--he's the sitting vice president, and Republicans still respect primogeniture. They will tend to make the common-sense assumption that a guy who's been vice president for, say, a year and a half, is a guy who already knows the top job. Anyway, the new guy will get a honeymoon, which means he won't be fully hated by the time the 2008 primaries begin.

This new vice president would, however, have to be very popular in the party, or the party wouldn't buy it. Replacing Mr. Cheney would be chancy. The new veep would have to get through the Senate, which has at this point at least three likely contenders for the nomination, at least two of whom who would not, presumably, be amused.

Peggy, Peggy, Peggy, as Elbert Green Hubbard pointed out, “an ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness." Et tu, brute?

32 posted on 02/16/2006 7:42:22 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Calpernia

Okay you got me! I ROFL all over again at that ridiculous picture.

Noonan is a fool........she and Dick Morris can go fly a kite for all I care.


33 posted on 02/16/2006 7:47:07 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Shortstop7

bump

:)


34 posted on 02/16/2006 8:15:14 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Bump back at you.


35 posted on 02/16/2006 9:52:42 PM PST by Shortstop7
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