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3 monuments vandalized at Gettysburg battlefield
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 11:56 AM - Thursday, February 16, 2006 | Milan Simonich

Posted on 02/16/2006 9:17:49 AM PST by pittsburgh gop guy

Vandals hit Gettysburg National Military Park overnight, damaging three Civil War monuments and stealing a 120-year-old sword.

Park spokeswoman Katie Lawhon said the intruders pulled the top stone and sculpture off the 11th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry Monument, which was dedicated on Oct. 8, 1885.

They also stole a sword from that monument. Ms. Lawhon said this morning that the sword was taken from a sculpted arm attached to the monument.

Park rangers hope the theft will help them solve the case. A healthy market exists for Civil War-era weapons, particularly from Gettysburg. Many collectors, though, are on the lookout for stolen items.

In addition to the Massachusetts memorial, vandals also damaged monuments to Pennsylvania and New York units that fought at Gettysburg.

They pulled down the bronze sculpture of a Zouave infantryman from the pedestal of the 114th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry Monument. It was dedicated on July 2, 1886.

The third monument attacked by intruders also was a bronze sculpture. It featured a Civil War artilleryman from the monument to Smith's battery, also known as the 4th New York Battery.

The Smith's battery monument was dedicated on July 2, 1888.

Gettysburg is patrolled by national park rangers and civilian volunteers, who keep an eye on the battlefield and its 1,400 monuments and markers at night.

Even so, this is third time in 18 months that vandals have damaged Gettysburg monuments.

The battle of Gettysburg was the bloodiest of the Civil War. Some 51,000 soldiers were killed, wounded or vanished in three days of fighting. The battle was waged July 1-3, 1863.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: dixie; gettysburg; memorialdesecration; statue; vandalism
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Time for some punks to pay....
1 posted on 02/16/2006 9:17:52 AM PST by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Time for some punks to pay....

And their parents too, if they're under 18.
2 posted on 02/16/2006 9:20:06 AM PST by babyface00
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Even so, this is third time in 18 months that vandals have damaged Gettysburg monuments.

Maybe they need a better security system?

3 posted on 02/16/2006 9:21:07 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

I hope they get real jail time. Gettysburg is one of my favorite places. I've visited several times and when I visit I always find something I haven't seen before


4 posted on 02/16/2006 9:22:29 AM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: 91B

Whoever did this should be flogged...


5 posted on 02/16/2006 9:23:29 AM PST by CitadelArmyJag ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man with no convictions" G. K. Chesterton)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

When they catch the kids who did this, they should be made to care for the field using 19th century equipment as part of their restitution (among othe things I can think of)


6 posted on 02/16/2006 9:23:51 AM PST by SueRae
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Set up a manned night time patrol and catch the scum


7 posted on 02/16/2006 9:24:52 AM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won't back down)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

This makes me sick.


8 posted on 02/16/2006 9:28:31 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

"Maybe they need a better security system?"

Kinda hard to secure since the monuments are all over the town and countryside, and public highways run through the park. But yes, the need to somehow make the monuments more secure.


10 posted on 02/16/2006 9:30:42 AM PST by pittsburgh gop guy (Be not afraid...)
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To: LeoWindhorse; groanup; NerdDad; chesley; bourbon; LibertarianInExile; Nasty McPhilthy; injin; ...

dixieping


11 posted on 02/16/2006 9:31:58 AM PST by stainlessbanner (^W^)
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To: CitadelArmyJag

I thoroughly agree--and my ancestors fought for the South.


12 posted on 02/16/2006 9:31:58 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Mighty Eighth
Felony hard time in prison, with a 250lb girlfriend named Leroy

Great line! Ha ha. Actually, the reasons vandals vandalize is because our court system is too lenient and they know it. Hard time, full restitution, and a substantial fine may serve as an incentive to be a good boy.

13 posted on 02/16/2006 9:33:38 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
!@#$%^&*! just !@#$%^&*!

i hope they do something UNPLEASANT to the creeps, when they're caught!

free dixie,sw

14 posted on 02/16/2006 9:35:26 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: From The Deer Stand; Mighty Eighth
Felony hard time in prison, with a 250lb girlfriend named Leroy

Shouldn't that be:

Felony hard time in prison, with a 250lb girlfriend boyfriend named Leroy

15 posted on 02/16/2006 9:36:04 AM PST by null and void (<---- Aged to perfection, and beyond...)
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To: 91B
Good morning.
"I hope they get real jail time"

I don't want them to do jail time. Jail time costs us money.

When they find the vandals we need to flog them publicly, stick them in the stocks for a while with signs that name them as stupid criminals, then put them to work doing public good. If they don't want to work flog them some more.

Hell, flog them some more anyway.

Michael Frazier
16 posted on 02/16/2006 9:36:43 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: stainlessbanner
!@#$%^&*!

this is UTTERLY DISGUSTING!

free dixie,sw

17 posted on 02/16/2006 9:36:53 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

This is really sad. Gettysburg is one of my favorite places to visit.


18 posted on 02/16/2006 9:37:11 AM PST by sauropod ("Here Lies Joe Biden, Buried Under His Own Words.")
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Very, very sad. :(

I suppose we are raising a generation where video game skills and political correctness classes have edged out basic history.

Well, keep an eye for that sword on eBay.


19 posted on 02/16/2006 9:38:10 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (DO NOT read to the end of this tagline . . . Oh, $#@%^, there you went and did it.)
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To: SittinYonder

Disgraceful dishonorable punks ping.

Nothing a baseball bat couldn't correct.


20 posted on 02/16/2006 9:39:10 AM PST by eyespysomething (Iran is like the slightly retarded cousin that keeps asking Santa for a shotgun.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

The statue had been fine there since 1885....


21 posted on 02/16/2006 9:40:28 AM PST by Feiny ("Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back." Ann Coulter)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Gettysburg is HALLOWED GROUND for BOTH sides!

fwiw, my ancestor was PVT William James (Little Thunder) Freeman, late of the First Cherokee Mounted Rifles & the Fourth Missouri Partisan Rangers & REBEL, to his marrow.

"L.T." would be HIGHLY OFFENDED by this ATROCITY against the memory of BRAVE men.

free dixie,sw

22 posted on 02/16/2006 9:40:57 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stainlessbanner
I will always cherish my first visit to Gettysburg last summer . . . this is heartbreaking. Mongrels roam the land.
23 posted on 02/16/2006 9:41:01 AM PST by w_over_w (The more things change the more they stay the same. ~Bentfeather~)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

outrage


24 posted on 02/16/2006 9:41:35 AM PST by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

No matter, in 40 years all battlefield parks will be paved over anyway. Our citizens will all know what rock and rap bands were popular throughout history, but will have no idea that important wars were ever fought on our soil ... let alone be interested in preserving the fields.


25 posted on 02/16/2006 9:42:30 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Shameful. Truly shameful. Only barbarians descrate monuments to the dead.


26 posted on 02/16/2006 9:43:05 AM PST by Potowmack ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

My thoughts exactly. See my other post.


27 posted on 02/16/2006 9:44:10 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: stainlessbanner

Disgraceful!!


28 posted on 02/16/2006 9:44:38 AM PST by Constitution Day (Anger is an energy)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Scum.


29 posted on 02/16/2006 9:44:54 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Man, that is sickening. I can't help but wonder if some young barbarians have no appreciation for our history because of what poses as history education these days. Does not excuse this crap, but may explain it?


30 posted on 02/16/2006 9:45:01 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Wowsers! Go, go gadget gadget play!)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Theres a special place for bastards that do such things. The fellows that have died in war take turns running it.


31 posted on 02/16/2006 9:47:12 AM PST by Lee Heggy123 ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

I have to wonder what, in a public school history education, would lead young people to attack the monuments of Grand Army of the Republic soldiers.


32 posted on 02/16/2006 9:47:46 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: stainlessbanner; stand watie

Absolutely disgraceful!

I agree wholeheartedly with stand watie - our ancestors fought for the South, but would have certainly been apalled at the lack of RESPECT. Vandalizing a battlefield or a cemetery is just beneath contempt.


33 posted on 02/16/2006 9:47:53 AM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Maybe they need a better security system?
No, time for public canings, hangings, etc.
34 posted on 02/16/2006 9:48:58 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Turn him over to a reenactment group for some real Civil War disciplinary punishment.


35 posted on 02/16/2006 9:50:25 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 88-89)
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To: RebelBanker
WELL SAID!

free dixie,sw

36 posted on 02/16/2006 9:50:40 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: HostileTerritory

Actually, they wouldn't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. They wouldn't be able to tell you in what century the war took place, or what it was about.


37 posted on 02/16/2006 9:51:27 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: eyespysomething
Nothing a baseball bat couldn't correct.

At least they stuck to the Yankee monuments.

38 posted on 02/16/2006 9:54:33 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

I know the battlefield is huge...we have been there. But, if there ARE volunteers couldn't there be two at every monument? This is disgraceful and the punks that did this probably have no idea how this country was formed, or built not to mention what those who gave their blood did for all of us. They are STUPID, IGNORANT, BRAINLESS WITH NO INTELLIGENCE AT ALL. They are probably drop out, hating, miserable inside people and the only way to get attention is to do something so drastic like this. I hope they get lots of attention and are put into jail where they belong. These kind of people do not belong on the same streets where the rest of us walk or on holy ground such as our battlefields where those who fought for the rest of us now rest. I hope they find them and punish them accordingly.


39 posted on 02/16/2006 9:55:27 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know. Go Rush!)
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To: dinoparty
Eminent Dopey Main?? The 'me-me' syndrome protected by legislation sponsored by the ACLU, other Liberals, and society in general in agreement to "protect the right of a person to be void of integrity, respect, moral responsibility, and individual responsibility for one's own actions in the name of understanding and tolerance"?
40 posted on 02/16/2006 9:56:03 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

hate crime


41 posted on 02/16/2006 9:56:33 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: SittinYonder

You are BAD!


42 posted on 02/16/2006 9:58:46 AM PST by eyespysomething (Iran is like the slightly retarded cousin that keeps asking Santa for a shotgun.)
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To: feinswinesuksass

Except now they've had three attacks in the past 18 months, it says, so they need to do something differently before everything is destroyed.


43 posted on 02/16/2006 10:00:09 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: advance_copy
This makes me sick.

Me too. Those pictures made my stomach turn.

44 posted on 02/16/2006 10:00:31 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

SONSABTICHES!


45 posted on 02/16/2006 10:01:15 AM PST by IGOTMINE (Front Sight. Press. Follow Through. It's a way of life.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Hang 'em.


46 posted on 02/16/2006 10:02:05 AM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: dinoparty
Actually, they wouldn't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. They wouldn't be able to tell you in what century the war took place, or what it was about.

I'm not buying it. Gettysburg is in the middle of nowhere. If you live there, you drink in this stuff from day one. If you don't, and you don't know about the Civil War, you're not going to drive 50-100 miles to knock over monuments which all happen to be from northern states.

Let's be honest. The most plausible explanation is that a couple of lowlifes who were visiting one of the greatest battlefields of the Civil War decided to celebrate their southern "heritage" by attacking monuments to Yankee soldiers. These people do not reflect on the attitudes of the many southerners who take pride in their ancestors' bravery and dedication to the cause, and to their credit (nearly) everyone posting to this thread has condemned this act of vandalism.
47 posted on 02/16/2006 10:02:14 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: SittinYonder
At least they stuck to the Yankee monuments.

The fact that you're the only person on this thread to express this sentiment should tell you something.
48 posted on 02/16/2006 10:03:01 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: eyespysomething; SittinYonder

c'mon, no taking sides in this one.


49 posted on 02/16/2006 10:03:27 AM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: HostileTerritory
I have to wonder what, in a public school history education, would lead young people to attack the monuments of Grand Army of the Republic soldiers.

Why is everyone assuming these perps are young?

50 posted on 02/16/2006 10:03:31 AM PST by Potowmack ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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