Judge orders NSA spy papers released

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[popdonnelly]

Does national security mean anything to these people? I mean, the Federal government does have a responsibility to see that its citizens don't get killed by terrorists.

[Txsleuth]

That was the same thing I wondered...the name ROSE just kinda stuck out, didn't it??

[omega4179]

Federal Judges officially back Al Queda and should be impeached.

no private party is "harmed" by this program. rubbish. rubbish!!!!

[demlosers]

NSA: Ok judge, here you go:

*Snicker*

[Borges]

That was President Jackson.

[popdonnelly]

Couldn't they have just sent Sandy Berger in to steal the documents?

[hipaatwo]

Good one!

[Cboldt]

Thanks for that, saved me having to look it up. Looks like EPIC will get it's "state secret" answer a bit later.

The case doesn't stand for the proposition of WHAT is to be released, only WHEN. Plenty of FOIA requests are answered with a "we can't tell you that."

[Txsleuth]

LOL...

[w1andsodidwe]

Have we released all the papers on the Kennedy assassination, which were being held out of sensitivity to the family?

[Pirate21]

Now we're fighting wars via the courts?!?!?  Outrage!  The judiciary joins the legislature in a p!$$ing contest against the Executive branch.  Sorry, but the Executive wields the power in fighting wars -- Commander in Chief, remember?  They'd better go to the Supreme Court and get this overturned.

[conservative physics]

When are people going to wake up and realize this is a WAR.

people you are at war with have NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

basically the liberals are saying that the President has the power to nuke a city of millions anytime he wants.. but he can't wiretap their phone calls without a warrant!

[xzins]

This is a separation of powers issue.

They should never have appeared in court in the first place. It only made it seem as if the court were the arbiter.

The proper answer would be:

NO.

[COEXERJ145]

While there is some debate as to whether or not Jackson actually said it, the phrase attributed to him is

"John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."

[Borges]

It should be noted that in the case Jackson was reffering to (a broken treaty with indians) he was in the wrong. I hate when people cite that quote as a symbol of anything poisitive.

[conservative physics]

thanks for the correction.

[Chicos_Bail_Bonds]

ping

[caisson71]

We've found another Al-Qaeda cell and it is, again, in our judicial system.

[K-oneTexas]

Yes, the ACLU suit was merged with the EPIC one.

From the decision:

Setup:
In response to this news, EPIC submitted four FOIA requests that same day to four DOJ
components—the Office of the Attorney General (“OAG”), the Office of Intelligence Policy and Review (“OIPR”), the Office of Legal Counsel (“OLC”), and the Office of Legal Policy (“OLP”)—citing the New York Times article and requesting records “from September 11, 2001 to the present concerning a presidential order or directive authorizing the National Security Agency (‘NSA’), or any other component of the intelligence community, to conduct domestic surveillance without the prior authorization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (‘FISC’).”

EPIC specifically sought the following items:
(1) an audit of NSA domestic surveillance activities;
(2) guidance or a “checklist” to help decide whether probable cause exists to monitor an individual’s communications;
(3) communications concerning the use of information obtained through NSA domestic surveillance as the basis for DOJ surveillance applications to the FISC;
and
(4) legal memoranda, opinions or statements concerning increased domestic surveillance, including one authored by John C. Yoo shortly after September 11, 2001 discussing the potential for warrantless use of enhanced electronic surveillance techniques.

No reference to 'who' would be harmed, just implied, I guess, that it is in the publics interest since that's what FOIA requests are about.