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White House Defends Port Sale to Arab Co.
Associated Press/Breitbart ^ | 2-16-2006 | By TED BRIDIS and DEVLIN BARRETT

Posted on 02/16/2006 1:40:18 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite

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To: atlaw

In 2003 CSX World got their 1st US Contract in Jacksonville, Florida to devleop, manage, and operate this 35 acre port. Dubai purchased CSX World Terminals last year.

So, they've been eyeing US operations for some time.


221 posted on 02/17/2006 7:42:11 AM PST by sasha123
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

On this issue, Tony Snow is full of it. Lame-brained excuses for this appalling lapse of judgment are inexcusable.


222 posted on 02/17/2006 7:43:33 AM PST by atlaw
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To: TXBSAFH

He's thinking of that Arab money for his Presidential library.

Following Clinton's 2nd term example.


224 posted on 02/17/2006 8:02:52 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Before I stick my neck out on this, I would want to know what port facilities are affected, the size of the facilities, where they are located and the arrangements for monitoring and inspection.

From the 2/12 AP report:

The Bush administration considers the UAE an important ally in the fight against terrorism since the suicide hijackings and is not objecting to Dubai Ports World's purchase of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co.

The $6.8 billion sale is expected to be approved Monday. The British company (London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co.) is the fourth largest ports company in the world and its sale (to Dubai Ports World) would affect commercial U.S. port operations in New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia.

Just a few major ports involved, but what the heck, business is business, right? -- and we know that Muslim nations never attempt to use their unearned oil booty to spread Islam here -- just look at Saudi Arabia.

In other news, "Qatar-based Al-Jazeera Television has announced a deal with the Dubai-based ARY Digital Network to launch an Urdu-language satellite TV channel targeting over 110 million Urdu speakers globally, the Qatari newspaper Gulf Times reported on 26 January." Ho-hum, not a problem; Dubai is an ally, and Al Jazeera is simply an objective, unbiased broadcasting company.

I can't help you with the details of "arrangements for monitoring and inspection," but I would suspect the security is about as effective as it is on our southern border. Just a hunch.

225 posted on 02/17/2006 8:04:18 AM PST by browardchad
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To: Siena Dreaming

"No, sorry chum. You're alone. I haven't seen anyone else drop the term "Islamofascist" at the drop of a hat."

Sorry pal. I figure anyone supporting having muslims in charge of our strategic ports must be an islamofascist. I simply can't imagine any right minded red blooded american supporting such a maniacal and suicidal maneuver. So for me,
you truly are with us or against us. Since you argue in favor of muslims running our strategic ports, I figure you are against us. Your cover is blown.


226 posted on 02/17/2006 8:06:59 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Afterall, American ports run by muslims is a good thing right?)
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To: atlaw
Oh honestly. This is the most patently ridiculous excuse imaginable.A state-owned company of the United Arab Emirates will be operating the ports,operating the ports,

Before you get too sarcastic, I've learned on another thread that the company will not be operating the ports.

They are not "acquiring" any port as has been reported. Rather, they have bought one of many terminals.

Seems to me a lot more facts need to be learned before we swallow the MSM and Schumer's words. If you are right, and they are operating ports, that's another story. But I'm not sure you are correct.

227 posted on 02/17/2006 8:13:37 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: takenoprisoner

Take a hike, idiot. You're not worth any time.


228 posted on 02/17/2006 8:15:19 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Dane; Stellar Dendrite
For full disclosure which you left out, DP World bought that part of CSX one year after Snow had left CSX.

Oh, and now FR's residend sock-monkey on Illegal Infiltrators is also a Business Expert!

Tell me Dane, just how long do Multi-National business deals with price tags of over 1 Billion dollars take? Is it your position that this deal MAGICALLY occured AFTER John Snow left, without Snow EVER having heard or worked on said deal?

Because I'll bet John Snow was still head of CSX when this deal idea was floated, researched, and negotiations began!

And you don't think it's at all troubling that these CEO's that have MAJOR connections to DP World were put into positions of authority in areas that DP World would need?

You are as useless in this as you are in any argument...maybe John Snow should give up HIS "Golden Parachute" from CSX, just like you demanded that Charlie Daniels give up his royalties on a 34 year old song!

Because Snow's hands look MIGHTY dirty here, more than Charlie's!

229 posted on 02/17/2006 8:40:42 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Siena Dreaming; atlaw; All

"They are not "acquiring" any port as has been reported. Rather, they have bought one of many terminals."

Funny then how other stories are titled "Taking Over..."
seems to me 6.8 billion is a lot of money for one little terminal. Methinks you attempt to deceive.

Meantime, here are some true facts:


Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the FBI has said the money for the strikes was transferred to the hijackers primarily through the UAE's banking system, and much of the operational planning for the attacks took place inside the UAE.

Many of the hijackers traveled to the U.S. through the UAE. Also, the hijacker who steered United Airlines flight into the World Trade Center's south tower, Marwan al-Shehhi, was born in the UAE.

After the attacks, U.S. Treasury Department officials complained about a lack of cooperation by the UAE and other Arab countries trying to track Osama bin Laden's bank accounts.

– The UAE was one of three countries in the world to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.

– The UAE has been a key transfer point for illegal shipments of nuclear components to Iran, North Korea and Lybia.

– According to the FBI, money was transferred to the 9/11 hijackers through the UAE banking system.

– After 9/11, the Treasury Department reported that the UAE was not cooperating in efforts to track down Osama Bin Laden’s bank accounts.


230 posted on 02/17/2006 8:43:03 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Afterall, American ports run by muslims is a good thing right?)
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To: Cboldt; Stellar Dendrite
What was that Bush said? 'If you're not with us, you're against us?...I guess that was just chest pounding BS.

Remember all the fun with "meaning of 'is'"? Same thing with "meaning of 'with'" (or "for," or "against" -- pick your word).

Actually, you are close. I ran that Bush speech thru the disgronifier...here's the results...

'If you're not with us {or buying us out, or an Illegal from Mexico, or part of my new Globalist Strategy, or one of my Arab Masters}, you're against us".

231 posted on 02/17/2006 8:48:38 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Dane; The Pastor; Stellar Dendrite
Whew what a rant and one that is filled with ignorance.

A PERFECT description of each and every Dane post!

232 posted on 02/17/2006 8:51:34 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: chris1

LOL!


233 posted on 02/17/2006 8:53:29 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: takenoprisoner
Funny then how other stories are titled "Taking Over..."

Funny how you swallow "news stories" as gospel. But then...most small minded people do.

234 posted on 02/17/2006 8:56:59 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: browardchad
ARY DIGITAL is owned by a Pakistani, which provides Middle Eastern biased views, sounds like Al Jazeera.
236 posted on 02/17/2006 9:11:57 AM PST by sasha123
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To: Siena Dreaming

Meantime, below are some true facts regarding the UAE which if not stopped will have major control of 6 of our strategic ports in the United States. It would be odd how you only touched on news stories while failing to comment on the real facts regarding the UAE...but since your cover is blown as an islamofascist, there's really nothing odd about your response at all.


Let's review these UAE facts again shall we? Maybe you can drum up some way to defend your islamofascist brethren against these as well?

Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the FBI has said the money for the strikes was transferred to the hijackers primarily through the UAE's banking system, and much of the operational planning for the attacks took place inside the UAE.

Many of the hijackers traveled to the U.S. through the UAE. Also, the hijacker who steered United Airlines flight into the World Trade Center's south tower, Marwan al-Shehhi, was born in the UAE.

After the attacks, U.S. Treasury Department officials complained about a lack of cooperation by the UAE and other Arab countries trying to track Osama bin Laden's bank accounts.

– The UAE was one of three countries in the world to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.

– The UAE has been a key transfer point for illegal shipments of nuclear components to Iran, North Korea and Lybia.

– According to the FBI, money was transferred to the 9/11 hijackers through the UAE banking system.

– After 9/11, the Treasury Department reported that the UAE was not cooperating in efforts to track down Osama Bin Laden’s bank accounts.


237 posted on 02/17/2006 9:12:07 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Afterall, American ports run by muslims is a good thing right?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Fine, then deny the sale.

But, they didn't.

Port security is a joke. Whoever owns the port can, pretty much, do what they like with nobody the wiser.

Gotta agree with the dems this time....W is pulling a Harriet.

238 posted on 02/17/2006 9:16:09 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: Siena Dreaming; Dane
Since you and Dane seem to be of the view that this particular $6.8 billion buy out of P&O involves a couple of rowboats and, strangely, no change in operational control of the affected commercial terminals, perhaps a little history is in order:

International Terminal Operating Company, Inc. (ITO) was founded in 1921 by Captain Franz Jarka. Originally called The Jarka Corporation, the company specialized in handling freight and passengers in the Port of New York. Soon, The Jarka Corporation expanded its services to encompass the ports of Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Hampton Roads, Virginia. In 1962, ITO was acquired by Ogden Corporation. In 1983, the company merged with John W. McGrath Corporation, which included Atlantic and Gulf Stevedores, Inc. and integrated their North Atlantic and Gulf Coast operations. Ogden and McGrath continued to share ownership of ITO.

ITO opened its first public container handling facility in 1967, and it was among the first to utilize computers in its terminal operations. The company used the latest technology to coordinate all its port activities, including receiving and delivery functions, cargo documentation, and terminal security. ITO worked with many of the largest container, break-bulk, and specialized cargo carriers in the world and became one of the largest stevedores and marine terminal operators in the United States. In 1999 the United Kingdom-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. (P&O) acquired ITO. The company then became part of P&O Ports, one of P&O's many subsidiaries. P&O Port's operations spanned 17 countries around the globe. In all, P&O Ports ran 24 container terminals in 84 ports.

And now, of course, Dubai Ports World (DP World) is the proud owner of the former P&O.

And as noted in Forbes (during the bidding war for acquisition of P&O):

DP World made the first formal approach for P&O in November, when it offered 3.3 billion pounds ($5.9 billion) for the 165-year-old company.

A deal would make the combined company the third-largest ports operator in terms of capacity, lifting DP World up from its current rank as No. 7.

Not to worry, it's just a little bit of the camel's nose under the tent, eh?

239 posted on 02/17/2006 9:22:33 AM PST by atlaw
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To: atlaw
Since you and Dane seem to be of the view that this particular $6.8 billion buy out of P&O involves a couple of rowboats

Absolutely wrong. Don't hyperbolize. It ruins your credibiity.

You seem to have some trouble with facts.

240 posted on 02/17/2006 9:49:43 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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