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Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war'
WorldNetDaily ^ | February 17, 2006

Posted on 02/16/2006 11:17:41 PM PST by Cedar

Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war' Neighbors of Muslim encampment fear retaliation if they report to police

The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter.

A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.

The neighbors interviewed said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.

"We see children – small children run around over there when they should be in school," one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous."

The resident said his household gets "nothing but menacing looks from the people who go in and out of the camp, and sometimes they yell at us to mind our own business when we are just driving by."

"We don't even dare to slow down when we drive by," the resident said. "They own this mountain and they know it, and there is nothing we can do about it but move, and we can't even do that. Who wants to buy property next to that?"

Jamaat ul-Fuqra, or "community of the impoverished," was formed by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani in New York in 1980. Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.

Gilani also is the founder of a village in South Carolina called "Holy Islamville."

The encampment in Hancock, N.Y., is run by a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra called Muslims of the Americas Inc., which operates a school known as the International Quranic Open University Inc.

The facility is on 70 acres of remote land on the western edge of the Catskill Mountains, about 40 miles southeast of Binghamton, N.Y. A sign at the entrance identifies the place as "Islamberg." The other side of the sign says "International Quranic Open University" and "Muslims of the Americas Inc."

Every one of the neighboring residents interviewed expressed disappointment and additional concern that federal law enforcement is not investigating the activities, the report said.

"These people need to be investigated," a resident said. "They are training for war, either for war here in this country or against our troops. Who in the h--- is allowing this stuff to happen right here in our own backyard, and why?"

Headquarters in the USA

Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in the U.S.

The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in compounds where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority.

According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.

An investigation of the group by the Colorado Attorney General's office in the early 1980s found several of the communities operate covert paramilitary training compounds, including one in a mountainous area near Buena Vista, Colo.

Muslims of the Americas Inc., a tax-exempt organization formed in 1980 by Gilani, has been directly linked by court documents to Jamaat ul-Fuqra. The organization operates communes of primarily black, American-born Muslims throughout the U.S. The investigation confirmed members commonly use aliases and intentional spelling variations of their names and routinely deny the existence of Jamaat ul-Fuqra.

Members have been known to go to Pakistan for paramilitary training, but the investigation found evidence the U.S. encampments offer such training so members don't need to risk traveling abroad amid increased scrutiny following the 9-11 attacks.

The report says Jamaat ul-Fuqra members have "purchased isolated rural properties in North America to live as a community, practice their faith, and insulate themselves from Western culture. The group has established rural encampments that U.S. authorities allege are linked to murder, bombings and other felonies throughout North America."

U.S. authorities have probed the group for charges ranging from links to al-Qaida to laundering and funneling money into Pakistan for terrorist activities. The organization supports various terrorist groups operating in Pakistan and Kashmir, and Gilani himself is linked directly to Hamas and Hezbollah. Throughout the 1980s, JF was responsible for a number of terrorist acts across the United States, including numerous fire-bombings.

Gilani was at one time in Pakistani custody for the abduction of American journalist Daniel Pearl. Intelligence sources have determined Pearl was attempting to meet with Gilani in the days before he disappeared in Karachi. Intelligence sources also suggest a link between Jamaat ul Fuqra and Richard Reid, the infamous "shoe bomber" who attempted to ignite explosives aboard a Paris-to-Miami passenger flight Dec. 22, 2001.

Field investigation

Douglas J. Hagmann, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network and multi-state licensed private investigator, and others conducted their covert field investigation Feb. 8 and 9 at the Hancock encampment connected to the terrorist group.

Primary access to the compound is an unmarked road – labeled on county and state maps as "Moslem Road"

Two structures with capacities of up to 100 each appear to be used for religious training, education and meeting purposes, according to local sources. Investigators found a weapons firing range that is not visible from the road or any other publicly accessible vantage position. It appeared to have been recently used.

Near the eastern perimeter of the property – on a hillside – appears to be a military-style training area, including ropes hung from tree limbs, an obstacle course, wooden fences for scaling and other items and structures one would expect to find in a "boot-camp" setting. The area also appeared to have been used recently.

The report noted the property is near the Cannonsville Reservoir and Watershed Area, one of several water supply sources servicing New York City and adjacent areas.

The investigators noted men appeared to be designated to provide security for the compound, with some posted at guard shacks.

"Although no activity of extreme significance was observed (the presence of armed sentries guarding the perimeter of the compound excluded) during this period of surveillance, it was obvious that measures to insure that the activities taking place at this location were well insulated from public view," the report said.

Investigators interviewed six area residents, who each requested anonymity for the report and found them to be consistent. The report summarized the information:

The encampment has been in operation for at least 20 years and appears to maintain a steady level of occupancy. Each source confirmed the existence of at least one armed guard at the main entrance, especially during "special events" that result in a significant number of visitors by vehicle. The events appear to be meetings or religious services held within the compound.

Nearly every weekend, sound of gunfire can be heard from the camp. According to one neighbor who stated he's a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, some of the weapons obviously are "automatic" and large-caliber. On at least two occasions last summer, area residents heard small explosions.

The occupants won't allow anyone not affiliated with their organization to enter the encampment. All of the residents stated they've never observed a marked law enforcement vehicle enter the compound at any time.

Visitors to the compound are numerous and frequent. All visitors appear to be black males operating late model vehicles, mostly SUVs, and many possess license plates from Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina and Tennessee.

At least once each week, private deliveries of unknown items are made to the camp by unmarked box-style trucks. The trucks, usually at the compound for two to three hours at a time, are operated by black males or men who appear to be of Middle Eastern origin.

Men of Middle Eastern origin appear to be "frequent guests" of the encampment, many in traditional Islamic attire. Some appear to stay at the encampment for three to four days or longer. During the visits, activity and security at the compound is heightened noticeably. The report also says it found that a number of the residents of the compound work for the New York State Thruway, as tollbooth operators in the New York City area or are employed at a nearby center that processes credit card transactions and maintains vital confidential financial records.

The report concludes additional investigation by law enforcement authorities is required.

"The appropriate action must be taken now to insure the safety and security of the United States, or it is certain that we will be forced to deal with the consequences. …"

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alfuqar; allah; india; islam; israel; jihad; jihadinamerica; kashmir; mohammed; muslim; pakistan; probe; trainingcamps; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 02/16/2006 11:17:42 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Man, if I were the Feds I'd be on this like water on a fish.


2 posted on 02/16/2006 11:19:27 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Cedar
Time to throw the Slammys in the Slammer!

Sura 9:5 of the “Koran,” “Slay the idolaters muslimes wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

Kill A Commie For Mommie
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

3 posted on 02/16/2006 11:19:33 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous"---Hobbes the Tiger)
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To: Cedar

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1580208/posts

Pakistan will have to close down Kashmiri terrorist camps: US


4 posted on 02/16/2006 11:20:10 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Cedar

That this isn't being checked out is unbelievable!


5 posted on 02/16/2006 11:25:31 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Cedar

6 posted on 02/16/2006 11:26:23 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Cedar
The neighbors interviewed said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.

We CANNOT go there! If stuff like this goes UNreported, retaliation is the least of our worries.

7 posted on 02/16/2006 11:26:33 PM PST by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw)
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To: Cedar
The report also says it found that a number of the residents of the compound work for the New York State Thruway, as tollbooth operators in the New York City area or are employed at a nearby center that processes credit card transactions and maintains vital confidential financial records.

Hancock, NY is pretty far from the NYS Thruway - at least 75 miles away. On the other hand, Delaware County (where Hancock is located) isn't exactly a boomtown.
8 posted on 02/16/2006 11:28:31 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Cedar
The worst thing that could ever happen in this country is out of control vigilantism.

Our founding fathers were smart when they wrote in the 2nd amendment in and it does comforts me to know that Americans wont hesitate to exercise that right to save our country if necessary despite having limp wristed Democrats trying to sell the store.

9 posted on 02/16/2006 11:32:51 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: TheLion

Been going on for a long time too.


10 posted on 02/16/2006 11:32:54 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.




Someone needs to tell the "the sick --- --- ----" that his objective is worthy, but it won't be of his doing.


11 posted on 02/16/2006 11:32:54 PM PST by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: Cedar

Wonder how many other training facilities are around.


12 posted on 02/16/2006 11:35:35 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Horatio Gates; Baynative; Libertina; goodnesswins; Billthedrill; eeevil conservative; ...

Ping a ling a ding ding....


13 posted on 02/16/2006 11:36:03 PM PST by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw)
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To: A CA Guy
I think there are probably a lot of people like yourself that do not realize that a case has to be built against these people and that running around and making a ruckus serves no purpose other than to warn those being watched. There are not a lot of laws on the books that keep people from training. US authorities have to get them on something else and that could take time.
14 posted on 02/16/2006 11:37:00 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Rockitz

And who do we get to thank for that? ;-)


15 posted on 02/16/2006 11:40:22 PM PST by RedCell
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To: Rockitz

Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer and Patrick Leahy are probably stopping by to drop them off coffee and donuts.


16 posted on 02/16/2006 11:41:43 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: TheLion

11 Lashkar-e-Taeba terrorists arrested in US

http://www.pakistan-facts.com/article.php?story=20030627174524631

Friday, June 27 2003 @ 05:45 PM Central Daylight Time


The US authorities on Friday detained eight people they accused of supporting Lashkar-e-Taeba, which has been engaged in terrorist activities in the state Jammu and Kashmir. Another three people said to be living in Saudi Arabia were arraigned with the eight. All were accused of conspiring to help violence by Muslim terrorists in Kashmir, Chechnya, the Philippines and other countries.

Anti-terrorist raids were carried out in three states in the Washington region, the justice department said in a statement. The eight detained "have been indicted on conspiracy, firearms and other charges for their alleged roles in a conspiracy to train and participate in jihad in Kashmir," said US Attorney Paul McNulty. The 11 who face charges include at least two men born in Pakistan, one Yemeni and one from South Korea. They were to appear in court in Alexandria, Virginia, in the Washington suburbs.

They were accused of giving support to the radical Muslim group, Lashkar-e-Taeba. A Justice Department statement quoted the indictment as saying "the 11 defendants allegedly conspired to prepare for and engage in violent jihad on behalf of Muslims in Kashmir, Chechnya, the Philippines and other countries. "As part of this conspiracy, the defendants allegedly obtained weapons, including AK-47-style rifles, and practiced small-unit military tactics in Virginia using paintball weapons and other equipment to simulate actual combat in preparation for violent jihad.

The indictment alleged that some the 11 went to Pakistan and trained with Lashkar-e-Taeba. "The indictment also alleges that some of the defendants fired weapons in Jammu and in Kashmir," said the statement. The United States put Lashkar-e-Taeba on its list of foreign terrorist organisations in October 2001.

"When individuals meet in the shadows of our nation's capital to prepare for violent jihad, we will take action," said US acting assistant attorney general Christopher Wray. "Our success in the nation's war on terrorism depends on our ability to detect terrorist threats and prevent acts of violence," Wray said. The suspects were arrested in the states of Maryland, Virginia and Pennsylvania, an FBI official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The eight detained were named as Randall Todd Royer, 30, Ibrahim Ahmed al-Hamdi, a Yemeni; Masoud Ahmad Khan, 31; Yong Ki Kwon, 27, a naturalised American born in South Korea; Mohammed Aatique, a 30-year-old Pakistani; Hammad Abdur-Raheem, 35; Donald Thomas Surratt, 30; and Caliph Basha Ibn Abdur-Raheem, 29. Three others -- Khwaja Mahmood Hasan, 27, a Pakistani-born American; Sabri Benkhala, 28; and Seifullah Chapman, 30 -- are believed to be in Saudi Arabia.



17 posted on 02/16/2006 11:41:43 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Cedar
Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war'

The president would never allow this. He's a Republican, after all.

18 posted on 02/16/2006 11:43:34 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Cedar

And I'll bet a few of the cells would be welcome just north of "RED Seattle" in the home town of Lenin...FREMONT!


20 posted on 02/16/2006 11:50:47 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

What are all those pacifistic idiots gonna do when the bombs and bullets are directed at THEM? Try to have a kumbaya moment with the terrorists?


21 posted on 02/16/2006 11:54:53 PM PST by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw)
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To: goushi
Our country will always have problems with terrorism if we remain reactive rather than proactive on terrorism.

Why cant the Democrats figure this out?


It appears Democrats are weak and want our women to wear burqas. I say lets start with all the feminists.
22 posted on 02/16/2006 11:54:57 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: A CA Guy
Man, if I were the Feds I'd be on this like water on a fish.

You know there's something terribly amiss with the feds when this s#!t goes on right under their noses at the same time they annihilate 80-90 innocent men, women and children at Waco. Imagine what the response would be if this were an armed white militia group.

23 posted on 02/16/2006 11:56:54 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: kimosabe31

This may or may not give SOME ease.... there's alot going on behind the scenes we don't know about.....well for as long as some jackals in congress keep their damn mouths shut, anyway.


24 posted on 02/17/2006 12:01:24 AM PST by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw)
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To: Cedar
Who in the h--- is allowing this stuff to happen right here in our own backyard, and why?"

The Senator could not be reached for comment...


25 posted on 02/17/2006 12:02:19 AM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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To: Cedar

islam is evil.

Oh, for God's sake, PLEASE don't Ruby Ridge or Waco these folks, that kinda sh*t is reserved for the white "christian" folk.


26 posted on 02/17/2006 12:02:45 AM PST by Hypervigilant
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The neighbors interviewed said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.

Grow a bloody backbone.


27 posted on 02/17/2006 12:04:40 AM PST by TheSpy
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To: TheSpy
And just a few lines further down:

"These people need to be investigated," a resident said. "They are training for war, either for war here in this country or against our troops. Who in the h--- is allowing this stuff to happen right here in our own backyard, and why?"

28 posted on 02/17/2006 12:07:23 AM PST by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw)
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To: kimosabe31
My cousin was related to one of the jerks in Waco by marriage and her husband was on CNN about that.

They went down before the end and tried to get her husband's brother out. It was a cult full of mind controlled nuts armed to the gills.
They told the cult brother this was going to come to a bad end, it felt like Jones town there to them.
Though I hate Reno and Clinton, it was those inside that cause the long wait and eventual deaths.
They had the choice to comply and chose not to.
It isn't the brightest storing fuel inside the place either.

The whole thing was a dangerous cult.
29 posted on 02/17/2006 12:07:45 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: april15Bendovr

You're right about needing to be proactive instead of reactive....with numbers like these quoted below.


From the article:

"According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen 'Jamaats,' or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members."



30 posted on 02/17/2006 12:13:45 AM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Well, you know how estimates are......


31 posted on 02/17/2006 12:17:42 AM PST by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw)
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To: Cedar

"Up against the wall, Jaamat Fuqra"


32 posted on 02/17/2006 12:18:47 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Spanaway Lori

Yes, I'm sure the numbers are much larger.


33 posted on 02/17/2006 12:18:51 AM PST by Cedar
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To: conservative in nyc



The best satellite pic of the area:

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?cp=42.058457|-75.337571&style=h&lvl=15&v=1


34 posted on 02/17/2006 12:19:54 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120))
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To: Cedar

Is that it ? They're gonna need a lot more than that... Depending on which states they're in.


35 posted on 02/17/2006 12:20:25 AM PST by farlander
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To: Spanaway Lori

Though actually I was disturbed even at the 5,000-member number. Spread across the country they could cause lots of trouble, especially if there was a coordinated attack.


36 posted on 02/17/2006 12:22:19 AM PST by Cedar
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To: farlander

I think the problem would be if they used weapons/bombs.


37 posted on 02/17/2006 12:24:34 AM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Well.... practice makes perfect.


38 posted on 02/17/2006 12:25:22 AM PST by Just Lori (Trying to reason with a liberal is like sucking spaghetti through a straw)
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To: Cedar
"Training in the Catskills"??!!

Nobody puts Baby in the corner!

39 posted on 02/17/2006 12:27:05 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Cedar
Hope the good guys are well armed, we have seen how violent the moose can get over any perceived or minor insult.
40 posted on 02/17/2006 12:27:22 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Old Sarge
"Who in the h--- is allowing this stuff to happen right here in our own backyard, and why?"

Well, if this was a Christian compound, it would have been RENOed back in the Clinton days.
41 posted on 02/17/2006 12:28:41 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: AlexW

Utterly and sadly true.


42 posted on 02/17/2006 12:29:54 AM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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To: Cedar
"...The report says Jamaat ul-Fuqra members have 'purchased isolated rural properties in North America to live as a community, practice their faith, and insulate themselves from Western culture. The group has established rural encampments that U.S. authorities allege are linked to murder, bombings and other felonies throughout North America..."

"...The group seeks to counter 'excessive Western influence on Islam' through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran."

Over again, it's stated that the intent is to oppose "Western culture" and to generalize here, North America. And they chose to purchase and proliferate in North America and the U.S. specifically, home to "Western Culture" mostly. That says to me VERY CLEARLY that they have opted to aggress upon an area and a culture that they consider is in opposition to their beliefs, and that they support "any means possible" to accomplish their goals, including violence against those they oppose, who they think oppose them as per the "Quran."

That identifies them loudly and clearly as a group formulated upon terrorist principles and intent. If they wanted to just live "isolated" from "Wester culture," they could opt to move to Tibet or wherever. It's clear that their purpose and plan is one of harm upon Americans, from this article.

Worse, members employed in transportation, financial industry with access to privileged information...and A COMPOUND ADJACENT TO THE WATER SUPPLY OF N.Y.C., my gosh...the Buena Vista, CO location is also a concern to my view, given the ever expanding population in CO of illegal aliens and the trafficking between CO and Mexico...

To state the obvious...

43 posted on 02/17/2006 12:30:10 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Cedar

bttt


44 posted on 02/17/2006 12:31:16 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Cedar

and on that note... I say a snippet of FNC today. something about laser "attacks" on aircraft landing and taking off in Detroit... report indicated that the lasings all came from one neighborhood in Dearborn Heights... iirc, that area is now a bastion of Islam in this country...

makes me wonder... might not be a silly juvenile prank after all.


45 posted on 02/17/2006 12:32:48 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Spanaway Lori

I agree about the neighbors and fearing making reports. Have experienced that myself in my own neighborhood, after a muslim person moved nearby and ongoing males of "Middle Eastern" type continued to come and go, many living there then not, then others living there, then not...it was concern enough to me to relocate to elsewhere although what can anyone actually report? Fears? Concerns? I never saw that type of behavior before 9/11, is all I can say.


46 posted on 02/17/2006 12:33:20 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: CarrotAndStick

bttt


47 posted on 02/17/2006 12:33:57 AM PST by nopardons
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To: texas booster

Interesting map. The whole loop is Moslem Road, not just the portion labeled as such on the more zoomed-out map. The compound must be in the clearings to the east of Roods Creek Road (i.e. the more southern Moslem Road).


48 posted on 02/17/2006 12:39:38 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: TheSpy

No, it's not the neighbors not having a backbone, it's their lack of confidence in local law enforcement, AND, that they probably know that their reports would be dismissed as mere concern or fears or even nuttiness by the local police.

What can any neighbor actually report? That people are coming and going? This article describes one clear cut case of the need for federal intervention nationwide on groups who are formulated upon the principle of "violence" and opposition to the U.S. as "culture." I think that's the key thing here, that there's clear intent by the organizaitonal principles alone of this/these groups to destruct the nation. It seems that's the ongoing principle I read by most muslims, unfortunately, to destroy that and whoever that is deemed to be oppositional or even non supportive of islam.


49 posted on 02/17/2006 12:41:47 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Cedar
I hate to say it but it's about time to shut down Islam in this country. These swamis need to prove their innocence and their silence doesn't cut it. Otherwise its out the door for them. My tolerance for them is just about zero. I just read something that 60% of the students in a truck driving school in Missouri had middle eastern sur names.
50 posted on 02/17/2006 12:43:18 AM PST by skimask (The United States Marine Corps is, quite frankly, the finest fighting force on God's earth.)
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