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Why weren't we informed? Isn't it obvious? (Mona Charen on Cheney)
Townhall.com ^ | 2/17/06 | Mona Charen

Posted on 02/17/2006 5:51:20 AM PST by blitzgig

There are few less edifying sights than Terry McAuliffe in full battle cry. But alas there was no avoiding him after the Cheney hunting accident. There he was demanding to know why the vice president waited 22 hours before informing the press and shouting that if Al Gore had done something like this he'd be in Leavenworth by nightfall (a dubious if pleasing supposition). The White House press corps was even more insufferable. One reporter asked, "Is it proper for the vice president to offer his resignation or has he offered his resignation?" Another demanded, "Scott (McClellan), would this be much more serious if the man had died?" Our pressies asked dozens of questions about the timing of the disclosure -- some wondering aloud whether the White House purposely delayed the announcement to avoid its becoming Topic A on the Sunday morning chat shows. One particularly eager journalist asked, "Under Texas law, is this kind of accidental shooting a possible criminal offense?" The transcript does not indicate whether he was rubbing his hands together at the time.

Is there something missing in the mental architecture of reporters? When they get credentialed, do they lose ordinary human reactions?

An ordinary person, hearing about such an accident, would respond as follows: How horrible! Cheney must be in agony. What's the prognosis on Whittington?

I honestly don't see why it was so essential that the press be informed about the accident immediately. Admittedly, if the vice president had shot someone in the Oval Office, or better yet, in the pressroom, that would be a story. But these kinds of things happen all too often when people hunt. It is terrible for the two men involved and for their families, but it has zero public relevance.

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KEYWORDS: charen; cheney; harrywhittington; hunting; leftistmedia; monacharen; shooting
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We can always count on Mona to bring back sanity and common sense.
1 posted on 02/17/2006 5:51:23 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: blitzgig

A journalist with common sense! How Rare. For a couple of days this week, the journalistic community was on death watch. They wanted something to happen to Cheney so badly they could taste it. If we have a few more minor incidents like this, I predict the press is going to help accelerate the Democratic party's road to self-destruction.


2 posted on 02/17/2006 5:58:39 AM PST by Ptaz
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To: blitzgig
The press loves any story that potentially involves misbehavior on the part of those in power
So much so that they MAKE IT UP if necessary!
Good post; finally some common sense.

GE
3 posted on 02/17/2006 6:00:13 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Ptaz

"A journalist with common sense!"

Exactly. Mona Charen is a HUNDRED times better journalist than any of those babbling morons in the DC press corps.


4 posted on 02/17/2006 6:00:33 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: blitzgig

January 20, 2009, is less than three years away. I can picture Hillary wondering if there's some way she can use this to send Cheney to Leavenworth.


5 posted on 02/17/2006 6:00:57 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: blitzgig

" We are seeing in this episode another of our periodic culture clashes between those who came of age before the '60s and those who came after. Cheney was born in 1941 and reached mature adulthood before it became the fashion for men to bare their souls, emote and talk talk talk.


We're also seeing a clash of cultures between those who hunt or have hunted and a bunch of effete, metrosexual, bi-coastal snots who running screaming from the room at the sight of a (gasp) GUN.

The perfect example is the WaPost story that had Cheney hunting quail with a 28 gauge loaded with "buckshot". Too funny.


6 posted on 02/17/2006 6:01:56 AM PST by Neville72 (uist)
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To: blitzgig

Why weren't we informed? A four letter "word" called HIPA.

MSM would have crucified the VP just as toughly over violating the law of health information privacy.

JMO.


7 posted on 02/17/2006 6:04:19 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: blitzgig

"Under Texas law," the reporter needs a fat lip.


8 posted on 02/17/2006 6:04:45 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: blitzgig

My understanding is that on transcripts of White House press conferences and briefings, by tradition, the reporters aren't identified by name. I think that's unfortunate. I think they might upgrade their game significantly if they knew that any stupid questions they asked were going to go down on their permanent record.


9 posted on 02/17/2006 6:04:47 AM PST by RichInOC (The man who said "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" never met a news reporter.)
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To: blitzgig

not really. happen all the time? "The number of people injured in hunting accidents in Texas decreased from 44 in 2003 to 29 in 2004". out of the whole state. sounds quite rare to me.


10 posted on 02/17/2006 6:05:05 AM PST by notigar
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To: blitzgig
Those who easily showcase their feelings are often charlatans and manipulators (Oprah, call your office). The more we demand that people -- particularly men -- share their deepest fears and regrets, the more we will be inviting the worst sort to lead us.

"I feel your pain" ** biting lip **

11 posted on 02/17/2006 6:05:25 AM PST by eyespysomething (Iran is like the slightly retarded cousin that keeps asking Santa for a shotgun.)
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To: blitzgig

if Al Gore had done something like this he'd be in Leavenworth by nightfall <<< Like what?....Giving a treasonous speech while on foreign soil during a time of war?...Oh wait a minute...He was doing that!..and not a peep from the MSM...


12 posted on 02/17/2006 6:07:49 AM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Hillary will never run, Vince Foster lurks in Fort Marcy Park.


13 posted on 02/17/2006 6:08:00 AM PST by agincourt1415
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To: blitzgig

Anyone who says "there are no stupid questions" has obviously never faced the White House Press Corps.


14 posted on 02/17/2006 6:11:34 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: blitzgig

The DNC talking points are out in force.

The are STILL trying to relate the story to IRAQ!

The DNC is trying to scream pattern.

Democrats: stuck on stupid.


15 posted on 02/17/2006 6:23:54 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: wizardoz

If Socrates had heard the WH press corps (a/k/a the baby playpen) he would have offered then a drink...


16 posted on 02/17/2006 6:26:39 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: blitzgig

She makes one glaring mistake at the end of the article.

She ASSUMES the wh playpen (aka press corps) have shame and can be embarrased. The WH playpen has no shame and has no way to be embarrassed. If they had to appear naked in the snow to attack GWBush, they would.


17 posted on 02/17/2006 6:37:28 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: blitzgig

It won't matter if Whittington dies at 110 years old, the MSM (if they're still around then)will say that VP Cheney's accidental shooting "contributed" to his demise.


18 posted on 02/17/2006 6:43:00 AM PST by mom3boys
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To: blitzgig

Personally I think her explanation is wrong. It seems more likely that he didn't notify the press immediately because; the press hates him and he hates them; few people rush to notify their enemies immediately upon doing something stupid, especially when you know they will try to use it to destroy you; and finally, what difference does it make if it is reported in the evening or the next morning?


19 posted on 02/17/2006 6:47:39 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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To: notigar
They also didn't mention that the most common hunting injury is actually 'falling out of the tree-stand".

Accidents relating to gunfire are exceedingly rare.

20 posted on 02/17/2006 6:50:12 AM PST by tcostell
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To: blitzgig

Accidentally and unfortunately, I happened to hear Imus ('be a moron') talking with Mary Matelin (sp?) about this. After going over everything patiently with "Cowboy Thought Process," he restarted his "everyone knows it was insane for Cheney to wait...." routine. I guess she'd had enough and began to fire back, at which point "Thymus" blows up and yells "don't you insult me!!," acting like a total baby wuss who can always dish it out but can never take it.


21 posted on 02/17/2006 6:53:42 AM PST by zook
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To: BadAndy

Because it seems like a coverup, that why. Ask yourself if you have a right to know the information. If not, fine, you don't want to know the VP shot someone. If you think you do have a right to know, when? I'd say as soon as possible.


22 posted on 02/17/2006 6:57:25 AM PST by notigar
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To: tcostell

I guess she has some hunting experience we don't know about. But these people that are saying it happens often aren't doing careful gun owners or hunters any favors.


23 posted on 02/17/2006 6:59:49 AM PST by notigar
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To: blitzgig
You know it finally occurred to me, as VP Cheney was talking to Hume about this...IF he was trying to cover it up, he very easily could have.

They could have decided to blame it on another member of the hunting party even if it was to just avoid embarrassment. There weren't that many of them out there and they are all friends, so it just wouldn't have been that difficult. Decide among themselves to blame it on another member of the group, call the press and the sheriff's office and there you go. I mean, think about it.

Instead, knowing the truth will always find you out and is morally right, the Vice President sucked it up and did the right thing.

If I hear one more person say something about it being secretive or they have the "right to know," I'm going to scream. EVERYONE knows. No one was held in the dark. All the details are out including the police report. The public didn't know the second it happened, that's all. That's not a cover up, that's getting your priorities straight.
24 posted on 02/17/2006 7:00:48 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: blitzgig

Our Mentor prepares to Dispatch the Vile Hamilton


25 posted on 02/17/2006 7:02:09 AM PST by metesky (Official Amorer, Aaron Burr Dueling Society)
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To: azhenfud

actually, it's HIPAA.


26 posted on 02/17/2006 7:04:25 AM PST by Mercat (We are all Danes now.)
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To: metesky

Our good friend Terry has NEVER let the truth get in the way of any of his talking points. Why so long before the press release? I am still waiting on Terry to explain how successful he was with Global Crossing investment, hhmmm.

If you it walks like a duck ...well you know how it goes.


27 posted on 02/17/2006 7:10:35 AM PST by awb2121
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To: blitzgig
So the old media is unhappy that Cheney sought safe harbor w/Brit Hume.

The same media had no problem when Bent Billy had a sit down with Jim Lehrer of Public Broadcasting to explain Monica. Nor was there a commotion when the Hildebeast was interviewed by a respectful, adoring, fawning Barbara Walters.
28 posted on 02/17/2006 7:21:26 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: pollyannaish

Think so? Have a drink, shoot someone, and see how many hours can pass by before you have to talk to the cops.


29 posted on 02/17/2006 7:23:24 AM PST by notigar
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To: blitzgig

Mona has put into words the best description of how I have felt about Cheney. Cheney's very measured demeanor and self confidence led him to do exactly what a person of his moral character should have done. I find no fault whatsoever with his action following the accident. S... happens. Perhaps his old style manliness and what the press calls 'secretive' like behaviour, but what I call being first responsible to the people most concerned, is something of the past, but I certainly hope not. This story should be over.


30 posted on 02/17/2006 7:27:26 AM PST by maplenut
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To: wizardoz
Anyone who says "there are no stupid questions" has obviously never faced the White House Press Corps.

Ah, but there are no stupid questions -- only stupid people asking questions.

31 posted on 02/17/2006 7:28:51 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: blitzgig

bttt


32 posted on 02/17/2006 7:29:38 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: kevkrom

"Ah, but there are no stupid questions -- only stupid people asking questions."

You nailed it. Good one!


33 posted on 02/17/2006 7:32:09 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: blitzgig
The socialists' will jump on anything to oppose anything the Bush administration does.

But make no mistake. This is not a "Hate Bush" thing. The Democrat Party, which is now the socialist party in America, hated all opponents equally. For those of us who are old enough, it seemed that no president was ever hated by the Dems like Nixon was hated. President Reagan in his turn was hated just as much by the left.

Bush Sr. took his turn as the object of hatred by Democrats.

The Democrat hatred of Bush seems greater today because the hatred has been rachetted up. The Democrat party is in serious danger of permanent decline. It has lost rank and file; it has lost the "swing" vote; it has lost the ability to attract money; it has lost election after election at all levels of government; it is recognized as the mirror-image of the British Socialist Labor Party and it is reduced to name-calling, character assassination, and diversion.

Democrats face a deli ma. They must conceal their real agenda, which is to continue to socialize America, and pretend to support what they really want to tear down.
they are frustrated. A tough balancing act.
34 posted on 02/17/2006 7:33:50 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: notigar

"Because it seems like a coverup, that why. Ask yourself if you have a right to know the information. If not, fine, you don't want to know the VP shot someone. If you think you do have a right to know, when? I'd say as soon as possible."

The incident WAS reported right away, to the local authorities as is required. Despite what the press may believe, they are under NO obligation to immediately report such an incident to them. Should this be reported in the media? Absolutely, but it makes no real difference to the audience whether it is reported that evening or the next morning.


35 posted on 02/17/2006 7:35:01 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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To: maplenut

Cheney's natural self-composure is what makes him a good leader. He doesn't let his emotions cloud his thinking. He keeps his eye on his objectives, thinking logically about how to achieve them.


36 posted on 02/17/2006 7:37:51 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: BadAndy

It also would make no difference if it was reported six months later, would it?


37 posted on 02/17/2006 7:38:35 AM PST by notigar
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To: notigar
Think so? Have a drink, shoot someone, and see how many hours can pass by before you have to talk to the cops.

Terry McCauliffe, is that you??

Do you not KNOW the facts or do you not CARE about the facts?

38 posted on 02/17/2006 7:40:19 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: notigar
It's not that they could have covered up the event itself. It's that they could have said it was someone else who pulled the trigger.

I have no idea since I don't hunt and I don't drink. But its not like they pull the CSI team out to do the investigation. I'm assuming it's more like a traffic accident where they interview everyone on the scene.

Of course, he the man had died, that would be a different thing. This is just my point: If it was a cover up, it wasn't a very good one. They spoke to local authorities almost immediately, called the press as soon as possible, told the story publicly, let the President know.

The complaint is just that the Washington Press Corp didn't get top billing.
39 posted on 02/17/2006 7:40:34 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: ohioWfan

Its Terri.
What fact do I have wrong?


40 posted on 02/17/2006 7:41:11 AM PST by notigar
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To: pollyannaish; notigar
There wasn't a cover up in any way, shape or form.

It is however, a DNC talking point to claim there was.

(This man's been listening to James Carville).

41 posted on 02/17/2006 7:42:50 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: blitzgig

You said it exactly correct. I am in total agreement.


42 posted on 02/17/2006 7:43:02 AM PST by maplenut
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To: notigar
The number of people injured in hunting accidents in Texas decreased from 44 in 2003 to 29 in 2004". out of the whole state. sounds quite rare to me.

Not at all. First, the whole state does not go hunting. Second, there are 12 months in a year, so even without doing any arithmatic, 29 injured in hunting accidents per year means it's more than one a month. Third, hunting happens in seasons, not all 12 months of a calendar year, so the rate of injuries is actually higher per the number of months in which hunting is permitted.

43 posted on 02/17/2006 7:45:23 AM PST by Wolfstar (Someday when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting...)
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To: blitzgig

I heard of a interesting statistic. More people die in swimming pool accidents than shooting accidents. Don't see the press sitting around all of the swimming pools waiting for an accident. There are more guns than swimming pools also.


44 posted on 02/17/2006 7:46:11 AM PST by wattsup ("It's best to stay silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.." ..Abe L.)
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To: notigar
Have a drink, shoot someone, and see how many hours can pass by before you have to talk to the cops.

What facts do you have wrong??.......All of these, by implication and innuendo.

The last part, "see how many hours can pass" is an outright lie.

btw, you DO know that the Secret Service is law enforcement, don't you? They were there on scene.

But nice try at passing off leftist talking points as facts, Terri.

45 posted on 02/17/2006 7:46:19 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

Exactly. My point is, if there was we would not even know about it. We not only know about it, we know EVERYTHING about it.

Clumsy attempt to say...look what they could have done.

(I'm not running on all cylinders this morning!)


46 posted on 02/17/2006 7:47:42 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Mercat

That applies to medical providers who transfer information electronically...what does that have to do with Cheney? That would have something to do with the victim's medical condition and information. Let's not get off topic here.

The public may or may not have a right to know...that is irrelevant because we all know now.

The issue can therefore only be how quickly they have a right toknow on something that is arguably uninvolved in the governance of the nation.

It is a stretch to say that Cheney's hunting accident had anything to do with governance...it has less to do with governance than Clinton shooting at Monica in the Oval oriface...


47 posted on 02/17/2006 7:48:11 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota (The real Churchill knew a blood thirsty gutter snipe when he saw one.)
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To: ohioWfan

You are funny, but I don't think intentionally so.


48 posted on 02/17/2006 7:51:34 AM PST by notigar
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To: pollyannaish
What's funny is that this 'cover-up' nonsense is coming from supporters of the most diabolical, dishonest, secretive administration in the history of the U.S. (Clinton makes Nixon look like a spill your guts in honesty guy).

Why even last summer it took 3 days to find out Harry Reid had a stroke. And think about Ted Kennedy's murder. He didn't even report it, and left Mary Jo to die in an attempt to cover up his evil and keep his political career going.

The left wouldn't know honest disclosure if it hit them in face.

Anyone who even implies that there was a cover-up here is disingenous at least, or a lying leftist at worst.

49 posted on 02/17/2006 7:53:07 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: blitzgig

I heard a woman on MSNBC complain that Cheney showed emotion in his interview with Hume but "we've never seen him cry" about the troops killed in Iraq. I was so offended that I changed channels. Is there anyone who heard this and can tell me who she was and what response she got?


50 posted on 02/17/2006 7:53:41 AM PST by joylyn
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