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Uproar over U.S. ports (excellent editorial)
The Washington Times ^ | 2/17/2006 | Staff

Posted on 02/17/2006 6:15:19 AM PST by Dark Skies

The White House is obviously not listening to the congressional uproar over Dubai Ports World. Lawmakers want to know why a federal panel allowed a state-owned United Arab Emirates shipping firm to pay $6.8 billion to acquire six major American ports -- including critical ones in New York, Baltimore and Philadelphia -- despite its home country's glaring ties to international terrorism. But the White House is yawning.

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1 posted on 02/17/2006 6:15:20 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

This is an outrage. What the h#ll are they thinking in the White House?


2 posted on 02/17/2006 6:18:13 AM PST by be-baw
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To: Dark Skies

The WH is wrong on this one. We will not hold still for it.


3 posted on 02/17/2006 6:19:30 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Dark Skies

Definitely another "Harriet Miers" moment.


4 posted on 02/17/2006 6:20:43 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.)
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To: Dark Skies

Bush administration sometimes takes 2 steps forward and 3 backward. This is just stupid and damn right people should be ticked off.


5 posted on 02/17/2006 6:21:53 AM PST by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: Dark Skies
Aw..you guys are just a bunch of W haters..that's all.

/sarc

6 posted on 02/17/2006 6:24:15 AM PST by deadrock
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To: Dark Skies

This is very weird. Secy of State Rice has been out giving conciliatory messages all week to various Arab and Muslim groups and their supporters (such as the Zapatero gov in Spain) and now we have the WH blandly assuring us that having what are essentially our enemies running our ports is no biggie. I guess we might as well all go out and get our burkas fitted now.

Seriously, I suspect that I am overreacting and reading too much into what were probably routine remarks by Rice and didn't mean much of anything, but on the other hand, I think a bit of overreaction may be warranted for this port deal.

I know the Administration wants to act as if Muslim nations are just like any others, and just want economic advantage and have to be treated like any others - but the problem is that they are not, and many of them are in fact our sworn enemies or have large elements in them that are our sworn enemies. Ignoring this fact won't change it.


7 posted on 02/17/2006 6:24:40 AM PST by livius
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To: SquirrelKing
Definitely another "Harriet Miers" moment.

Far worse than that. This affects national security.

8 posted on 02/17/2006 6:24:50 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: Dark Skies

This is what happens when you turn the decision over to a bunch of lawyers who parse words in a few thousand laws and regulations and then come back and say, "we see no legal issues anywhere". They need to get someone with the gonads (sorry, Condi) to say Bullsh*t! on this!!


9 posted on 02/17/2006 6:25:38 AM PST by poncho67
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To: Dark Skies

Is there a gigantic bribe in this somewhere? Not to the WH but elsewhere?


10 posted on 02/17/2006 6:25:38 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: Dark Skies

There are some serious security issues at stake here - the administration really needs to rethink this one.


11 posted on 02/17/2006 6:27:44 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -General Curtis LeMay)
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To: Dark Skies

"Foreign control of our ports, which are vital to homeland security, is a risky proposition," said Sen. Charles Schumer, New York Democrat.

This is a crazy world when I wake up one morning agreeing with Chuckie Shumer on anything.


12 posted on 02/17/2006 6:28:59 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: afnamvet
LOL

And the Supreme Court didn't?

13 posted on 02/17/2006 6:33:22 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

It is a sign that the world is ending...


14 posted on 02/17/2006 6:39:57 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SquirrelKing
I thought we had already outsourced the judiciary to the world court, ; )
15 posted on 02/17/2006 6:41:19 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: afnamvet
True!

Sad, but true.

16 posted on 02/17/2006 6:41:58 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

This is good ammo for the dems in an election year. The Stupid Party strikes again.


17 posted on 02/17/2006 6:44:27 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Dark Skies

THIS IS THE MOST ASSININE DECISION TO COME OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN A LONG TIME. BUSH MUST BE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL. E-MAIL THE PRESIDENT, SENATORS & CONGRESSMEN AND URGE THAT THIS BE STOPPED!!


18 posted on 02/17/2006 6:44:42 AM PST by KenmcG414 (wHAT'ST)
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To: JZelle

"This is good ammo for the dems in an election year. The Stupid Party strikes again. "

You are 100% correct. Even if they had no intention of reversing it, it would STILL be good ammo.

What kills me is, our "Leaders" in Washington, HANDED it to them.


19 posted on 02/17/2006 6:47:24 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: squarebarb
Yep, the bribe was the WTO.
Basically the claim has to come down to national security on our ports to trump the WTO laws. I personally think it has merit, but the fact that it was run by a British firm before now means that it obviously wasn't THAT big of a security risk not to let a foreign business run it.

Welcome to the wonderful world of the WTO and Euroweeny courts that decide the cases for it.

20 posted on 02/17/2006 6:48:26 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Dark Skies; SittinYonder
When an odd alliance of Messrs. Schumer and Coburn and the New York Times agree that the deal was rushed and dangerous, the White House should know it has a problem.

And I agree with Schumer and the NYT also, that's a rarity. (I already agree with Coburn a lot, so that's normal)

21 posted on 02/17/2006 6:49:23 AM PST by eyespysomething (Iran is like the slightly retarded cousin that keeps asking Santa for a shotgun.)
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To: Dark Skies

This lunacy needs to be stopped in its tracks. I can't think of a better way for Al Queda to get into this country than by infiltrating this port business! And the UAE recognizes the Taliban to this very day! Someone at the White House must be smoking dope to have thought this was a good idea. Call, write, and email your senators to stop this stupid, dangerous deal.


22 posted on 02/17/2006 6:51:20 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: livius
The EU's Great and Powerful HR Solana has been doing the same thing all week also, all way beyond appeasement. If I didn't know better they are all acting like we was (past tense) bought and paid for and run by the arab world already. But I know that's all tinfoil stuff according to Rush. In reality they are all one big peaceful loving global new world group who all have our best interests at heart. They all care the utmost about individual sovereignty also so we can trust them. The CFR, trilateralist are everything that good. Rest assured.

I'm most impressed with the attention the world, Solana especially, gives the King of Jordan.
23 posted on 02/17/2006 6:57:14 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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To: squarebarb

Daniel 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth [were of] iron, and his nails [of] brass; [which] devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;


Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.


Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;


Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.


Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.


Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.


Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


24 posted on 02/17/2006 7:02:15 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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To: Dark Skies
Forget the #$%* bird flu! We have a pandemic of VIRAL IDIOCY attacking Washington, D.C. as evidenced by the fact that it has infected in White House to make such STUPID decisions! Wrong is wrong, I don't care which party it comes from. I refuse to be a political lemming. PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, NOW! REVERSE THIS DECISION!
25 posted on 02/17/2006 7:02:38 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Imagine if there were no hypothetical situations......)
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To: Esther Ruth

I know. You'd think the King of Jordan had been appointed Ruler of the World or some such thing. I guess simply because he doesn't foam at the mouth the way many other Muslim rulers do, Solana and the rest consider him to be worthy of a shower of rose petals.


26 posted on 02/17/2006 7:09:36 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

well ,... Mayor Mike Bloomberg just did a quick dance

, when asked right now on John Gambling's show

... I don't think this will go away


27 posted on 02/17/2006 7:15:07 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: Dark Skies
This is not an "excellent editorial" at all. In fact, it is a sh!tty editorial that is based on a completely erroneous presentation of facts.

The notion that the UAE firm is paying $6.8 billion to acquire six major U.S. ports probably comes as a huge surprise to those agencies that currently own and operate these ports and have no intention of selling them.

This is the kind of idiotic ranting that I would expect to find in a Paul Krugman column or a Howard Dean speech.

28 posted on 02/17/2006 7:16:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Dark Skies
The White House is not listening because it is completely manufactured hysteria being pushed by Chuckie Schumer and the Democrat Senate Election Committee. Simply UNBELIVEABLE that Conservatives are allowing themselves to be drawn into this completely phony story being directed by the DNC.

All the various National security agencies have given this company a clean bill of health. This company MERELY does port operations, it has ZERO security functions. Security is a Federal Govt responsibility. The ONLY people freaking are the Democrat Senators. This works for them on two levels.

ONE it allows the Dems to fraudulently posture as "tough on National Security". Two, it allows the Senate Democrats to lay the ground work for a "Have the Feds take over the ports" like they did the baggage screener at the airport and add thousands to the Govt Union rolls.

Just DUMB for Conservatives to push Chucky Schumers phony PR line for him.

29 posted on 02/17/2006 7:16:55 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: OB1kNOb
The White House is not listening because it is completely manufactured hysteria being pushed by Chuckie Schumer and the Democrat Senate Election Committee. Simply UNBELIVEABLE that Conservatives are allowing themselves to be drawn into this completely phony story being directed by the DNC.

All the various National security agencies have given this company a clean bill of health. This company MERELY does port operations, it has ZERO security functions. Security is a Federal Govt responsibility. The ONLY people freaking are the Democrat Senators. This works for them on two levels.

ONE it allows the Dems to fraudulently posture as "tough on National Security". Two, it allows the Senate Democrats to lay the ground work for a "Have the Feds take over the ports" like they did the baggage screener at the airport and add thousands to the Govt Union rolls.

Just DUMB for Conservatives to push Chucky Schumers phony PR line for him.

30 posted on 02/17/2006 7:17:55 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: be-baw
The White House is not listening because it is completely manufactured hysteria being pushed by Chuckie Schumer and the Democrat Senate Election Committee. Simply UNBELIVEABLE that Conservatives are allowing themselves to be drawn into this completely phony story being directed by the DNC.

All the various National security agencies have given this company a clean bill of health. This company MERELY does port operations, it has ZERO security functions. Security is a Federal Govt responsibility. The ONLY people freaking are the Democrat Senators. This works for them on two levels.

ONE it allows the Dems to fraudulently posture as "tough on National Security". Two, it allows the Senate Democrats to lay the ground work for a "Have the Feds take over the ports" like they did the baggage screener at the airport and add thousands to the Govt Union rolls.

Just DUMB for Conservatives to push Chucky Schumers phony PR line for him.

31 posted on 02/17/2006 7:18:04 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: ANGGAPO
The White House is not listening because it is completely manufactured hysteria being pushed by Chuckie Schumer and the Democrat Senate Election Committee. Simply UNBELIVEABLE that Conservatives are allowing themselves to be drawn into this completely phony story being directed by the DNC.

All the various National security agencies have given this company a clean bill of health. This company MERELY does port operations, it has ZERO security functions. Security is a Federal Govt responsibility. The ONLY people freaking are the Democrat Senators. This works for them on two levels.

ONE it allows the Dems to fraudulently posture as "tough on National Security". Two, it allows the Senate Democrats to lay the ground work for a "Have the Feds take over the ports" like they did the baggage screener at the airport and add thousands to the Govt Union rolls.

Just DUMB for Conservatives to push Chucky Schumers phony PR line for him.

32 posted on 02/17/2006 7:18:16 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: SquirrelKing
The White House is not listening because it is completely manufactured hysteria being pushed by Chuckie Schumer and the Democrat Senate Election Committee. Simply UNBELIVEABLE that Conservatives are allowing themselves to be drawn into this completely phony story being directed by the DNC.

All the various National security agencies have given this company a clean bill of health. This company MERELY does port operations, it has ZERO security functions. Security is a Federal Govt responsibility. The ONLY people freaking are the Democrat Senators. This works for them on two levels.

ONE it allows the Dems to fraudulently posture as "tough on National Security". Two, it allows the Senate Democrats to lay the ground work for a "Have the Feds take over the ports" like they did the baggage screener at the airport and add thousands to the Govt Union rolls.

Just DUMB for Conservatives to push Chucky Schumers phony PR line for him.

33 posted on 02/17/2006 7:18:25 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: SideoutFred
The White House is not listening because it is completely manufactured hysteria being pushed by Chuckie Schumer and the Democrat Senate Election Committee. Simply UNBELIVEABLE that Conservatives are allowing themselves to be drawn into this completely phony story being directed by the DNC.

All the various National security agencies have given this company a clean bill of health. This company MERELY does port operations, it has ZERO security functions. Security is a Federal Govt responsibility. The ONLY people freaking are the Democrat Senators. This works for them on two levels.

ONE it allows the Dems to fraudulently posture as "tough on National Security". Two, it allows the Senate Democrats to lay the ground work for a "Have the Feds take over the ports" like they did the baggage screener at the airport and add thousands to the Govt Union rolls.

Just DUMB for Conservatives to push Chucky Schumers phony PR line for him.

34 posted on 02/17/2006 7:18:35 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: MNJohnnie

Well done. If ever there was a message that needed to be posted three times, this is it. LOL.


35 posted on 02/17/2006 7:18:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: be-baw

Jorge (Free Traitor) Arbusto once again sells out America.


36 posted on 02/17/2006 7:20:35 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: afnamvet
ar worse than that. This affects national security

No it does not. It has ZERO application to National Security. It is a stupid made up fraud of a PR attack lie pushed by Chuckie Schumer. The Company has ZERO inpact on Port Security. Amazing how DUMB Conservatives are when it comes to falling for the Junk Journalists DNC propaganda lies.

37 posted on 02/17/2006 7:20:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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To: Dark Skies

^


38 posted on 02/17/2006 7:21:49 AM PST by Frank T
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To: MNJohnnie
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39 posted on 02/17/2006 7:22:46 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Any company that has control of port operations would have to be intimate with all security measures, even if performed by someone else. To let a foreign company, from a country that supports the very terrorists we are at war with, to have knowledge of security operations at major U.S. ports, is lunacy! Muslim countries, and the companies these countries control, are not our allies. There loyalty is to their religion that is at odds with U.S. security.
Are the leaders of our country really that dense?


40 posted on 02/17/2006 7:26:03 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: MNJohnnie

It places OPERATIONAL CONTROL over strategic ports to a foreign country in time of war. This rises above politics IMO.


42 posted on 02/17/2006 7:30:38 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: MNJohnnie

Having trouble with your CapsLock key? lol


43 posted on 02/17/2006 7:30:43 AM PST by be-baw
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To: be-baw

Having trouble with your CapsLock key?
***
Yes he is. It is stuck on CFR


44 posted on 02/17/2006 7:32:48 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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To: Dark Skies
Three words of advice: Follow The Money!!!

Guaranteed that there's a lobbyist and or US firm tied to this.

45 posted on 02/17/2006 7:37:00 AM PST by O6ret
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To: Alberta's Child
You might want to present some facts to support your claim of "erroneous facts"...I didn't see any. You said...

The notion that the UAE firm is paying $6.8 billion to acquire six major U.S. ports probably comes as a huge surprise to those agencies that currently own and operate these ports and have no intention of selling them.

There's an erroneous fact on your part right there.

Dubai Ports World is acquiring a single company (who knows it is being purchased BTW), Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., that operates out of the six ports in question. At issue is actually Dubai's commitment to fighting terrorism. Dubai Ports World will not be controlling security at any of these ports but the question is "can Dubai be trusted to prevent any infiltration of its own operations...i.e. could a terrorist get deadly cargo on board and get it delivered into a port."

I suggest that is a legitimate question.

From the article in Forbes...

The Homeland Security Department said it was legally impossible under the committee's rules to reconsider its approval without evidence that DP World gave false information or withheld vital details from U.S. officials. The 30-day window for the committee to voice objections has ended, the department said.

Separately, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said it will conduct its own review of the deal and urged the government to defend its decision.

In a letter to the Treasury Department, Port Authority chairman Anthony Coscia said the independent review by his agency was necessary "to protect its interests."

Also, you will note that some of the legislative complaints are coming from republicans.

46 posted on 02/17/2006 7:39:44 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: MNJohnnie; Prokopton
MNJohnnie - Unlike your response repeated over and over, Prokopton's response DOES bear repeating:

Any company that has control of port operations would have to be intimate with all security measures, even if performed by someone else. To let a foreign company, from a country that supports the very terrorists we are at war with, to have knowledge of security operations at major U.S. ports, is lunacy! Muslim countries, and the companies these countries control, are not our allies. There loyalty is to their religion that is at odds with U.S. security. Are the leaders of our country really that dense?

47 posted on 02/17/2006 7:40:36 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Imagine if there were no hypothetical situations......)
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To: MNJohnnie

Blind faith?


48 posted on 02/17/2006 7:41:35 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero)
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To: Dark Skies

I'm curious to see if the donks are going to do any of the heavy lifting on this one particularly when it comes to the "jobs" issue. More likely, they'll just be happy to demagogue it.


49 posted on 02/17/2006 7:43:40 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Dark Skies
I let the WH and Cheney know that I am opposed to this whole thing last night. Hoepfully they are getting allot of emails against this garbage.

Schumer is already on board, so he and I agree on 1 thing, but even if he wasn't, I wouldn't waste the email. Clinton, I won't waste it, and my congresscritter is such a socialist, he's also a waste of time.....

50 posted on 02/17/2006 7:47:00 AM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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