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Since when did you need a SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER to get Internet Access ???
Vanity | 2/17/06 | Self

Posted on 02/17/2006 8:23:38 AM PST by Salgak

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1 posted on 02/17/2006 8:23:41 AM PST by Salgak
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To: Salgak
Fraud alert??

OR...

Find another provider....
IMHO...

2 posted on 02/17/2006 8:24:37 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: Salgak

Can't say that I have.


3 posted on 02/17/2006 8:24:43 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Salgak

Verizon used to ask for your SSN when you tried to change your phone service. They stopped the practice after customer complaints.

Don't give it. Keep calling until you find someone who will take your monthly ripoff payment without it.


4 posted on 02/17/2006 8:26:12 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Salgak

They use it run a credit check.


5 posted on 02/17/2006 8:26:24 AM PST by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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To: Salgak

is there any chance it is a credity check, like with utilities?


6 posted on 02/17/2006 8:26:28 AM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: Salgak

Probably want to check your credit report to see if you pay your bills ... I don't care if your credit rating is the best in the world, this is BS and you should refuse.


7 posted on 02/17/2006 8:26:44 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Salgak

Cox Communications requires an SSN for security purposes.....I did give it to them when I signed up for their cable/internet service.


8 posted on 02/17/2006 8:26:48 AM PST by indcons
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To: Salgak

Probably for credit though I can't imagine why.


9 posted on 02/17/2006 8:27:00 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Salgak

Just give them a wrong number.


10 posted on 02/17/2006 8:27:09 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Salgak

I don't know how much of a requirement it is. I do believe that legally speaking, the only people that can demand one's SS# as proof of identity are banks and the IRS. Everyone else just uses them because they are a convenient way to assign someone a unique "customer ID" (instead of generating their own, which I guess is a hassle).

At any rate, if you really didn't want to, then I believe you have the right to deny giving it to them, as they aren't a government entitity. But they may say it's "for a credit check" or something like that. If you stick to your guns though, you'll probably not have to at all.


11 posted on 02/17/2006 8:27:12 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

In our area, there is only one provider. If they want your business, they'll find another 'tracking' number to use.


12 posted on 02/17/2006 8:27:19 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Salgak

It is common as part of a credit check process. A SSN can be used to validate financial and educational information.


13 posted on 02/17/2006 8:27:30 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: Salgak
From this link:

We do several things to protect your number from misuse. For example, we require and carefully inspect proof of identity from people who apply to replace lost or stolen Social Security cards, or for corrected cards. One reason we do this is to prevent people from fraudulently obtaining Social Security numbers to establish false identities. We maintain the privacy of Social Security records unless: The law requires us to disclose information to another government agency; or Your information is needed to conduct Social Security or other government health or welfare program business. You should be very careful about sharing your number and card to protect against misuse of your number. Giving your number is voluntary even when you are asked for the number directly. If requested, you should ask: Why your number is needed; How your number will be used; What happens if you refuse; and What law requires you to give your number. The answers to these questions can help you decide if you want to give your Social Security number. The decision is yours

14 posted on 02/17/2006 8:28:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Salgak

Use 567-68-0515 or 409-52-2002.


15 posted on 02/17/2006 8:28:30 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: Salgak

Heck, I use my SS# as my logon password for everything--work and home 'puters, ebay and other online stores, my ATM PIN, etc.....;^)


16 posted on 02/17/2006 8:28:35 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Salgak

The want it to report you to the credit bureau if you don't pay your bill.


17 posted on 02/17/2006 8:28:37 AM PST by Mr. Brightside (I know what I like.)
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To: Salgak
My brother went for his driver's license in California several years ago.

When he got the license he looked at the long number they gave him, he asked the clerk why they didn't just use the driver's social security number instead.

Her answer:

It wouldn't work in California. There are too many people.

18 posted on 02/17/2006 8:29:06 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Salgak
They probably want it for a credit check, as they're giving you hardware, and don't want you disappearing with their stuff. (Although I've moved twice, and no one has ever wanted their cable modems back...)

A lot of people use Richard Nixon's SSN. If they check, they'll probably call you for the real one. If they don't, no harm done. 567-68-0515.
19 posted on 02/17/2006 8:30:15 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: mewzilla

Bump!


20 posted on 02/17/2006 8:30:27 AM PST by auboy (The press practices free screech. And they're really good at it.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Nixon and Elvis. Nice.


21 posted on 02/17/2006 8:31:18 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Salgak
Mention to them that it is illegal for a non-government entity to ask for your SSN.

Or go with Copper.net instead.

22 posted on 02/17/2006 8:31:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Salgak
Here, use mine.

23 posted on 02/17/2006 8:32:34 AM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Salgak

Probably since 9/11.


24 posted on 02/17/2006 8:33:06 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: N. Theknow
My brother went for his driver's license in California several years ago.

When he got the license he looked at the long number they gave him, he asked the clerk why they didn't just use the driver's social security number instead.

Nevada used to claim that your SS# wasn't used for driver's license purposes until someone figured out that you just had to take the license ID number and divide it by two to get the holder's SS#. Oops!

25 posted on 02/17/2006 8:33:08 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: July 4th
Nixon and Elvis. Nice.

:) he he.

If they ask for a tephone number use 202-456-1414.

26 posted on 02/17/2006 8:33:16 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: Salgak

Tell them to pound sand. I don't give my number to anyone-Had a battle with SBC over "lifeline" rates because they wanted a copy of my most recent tas return. I told her that is between me, my CPA, and the IRS. NO one else gets a thing off that paperwork. I have to almost triple my phone basic charge, so there goes another bite into my soc sec of about $900/mo, but I don't let that info out.
TOO many people are asking for that info on a cavalier basis. They seem to think they are ENTITLED to have that info. I tell them to pound sand.


27 posted on 02/17/2006 8:33:16 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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I've never heard of that. Is there another company you can get access through or is that the only one that services the area? (That might be the reason why they ask-no competition, so they do what they want).


28 posted on 02/17/2006 8:33:26 AM PST by kcbc2001
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Rip off HA!
I get 5 megs down 550 up for $45
what a deal


29 posted on 02/17/2006 8:35:57 AM PST by Roverman2K
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To: mnehrling

It is common as part of a credit check process. A SSN can be used to validate financial and educational information.""

Let them contact your prior provider. That is all the payment timely proof you really need.

A Calif woman has found that a Male Mexican is working in eastern Washington on a horse farm with HER soc Sec number. The bank has issued HIM a PICTURE credit card with her name and his picture. When she contacted the credit card people to have it stopped because he is using her number, their answer was" We cannot stop the card because he is paying the bill timely". Yet they acknowledge that they issued a PICTURE card to him with her name, which is obviously a female name.
What a wonderful world we live in in the name of the dollar.


30 posted on 02/17/2006 8:36:53 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Salgak

Time Warner does this all the time. They are seeking three things when they ask for your SSN:

1. They want to run a credit check.
2. They want to make sure that you do not have an outstanding bill with TW someplace else (i.e you moved without paying your bill at the last address)
3. They are collecting demographic information on you in order to better "market" services tailored to what they believe your individual needs. They "assess" these needs based upon such factors as:

age
occupation
income level
credit history
level of education
home owner or renter?
And a host of others...

TW uses this information in their own marketing campaigns, and quite probably, sells this information to other people who might be interested in it as well.

You can refuse to hand that information out, but don't be surprised if the process of obtaining cable TV or broadband access just became a little tougher because the idiot on the phone doesn't know what to do when a customer doesn't answer a question.


31 posted on 02/17/2006 8:37:38 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: randog

Heck, I use my SS# as my logon password for everything--work and home 'puters, ebay and other online stores, my ATM PIN, etc.....;^)""

I wouldn't. Too easy to have someone create an identiry theft scam on you.


32 posted on 02/17/2006 8:38:15 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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Technically, it is not illegal to ask you for it and if you give it to them then you're stuck. But legally you don't have to give it to them and they are obligated to generate a unique ID for your account. SSN can only be used when federal money or taxes are involved, like if you use medical services under medicare. It also is not supposed to be used for driver's license IDs any longer. Some places like hospitals force the issue and demand the number or you don't get services (this is so they can rat you out to the feds if you skip on the bill). It is despicable, but you usually have a choice to take your business elsewhere.


33 posted on 02/17/2006 8:38:23 AM PST by Kirkwood ("When the s*** hits the fan, there is enough for everyone.")
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age
occupation
income level
credit history
level of education
home owner or renter?
And a host of others... ""

If they insist on all that from me and I cannot get the service I need from anyone else, I make up answers as I go. None of is will be true when I am done.


34 posted on 02/17/2006 8:41:10 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: evets

Tell them you want your service billed to your credit card account, thus they don't need an SSN.

I went through a similar situation a few years ago with a text pager and Ameritech. Paid for the pager hardware and a years service IN ADVANCE using my Credit Card.

Person at the branch wanted my SSN - told them there was no reason as I was paying for everything via CC. They claimed it was their "policy". I declined and pressed it to higher management. Each time I spoke to a person that couldn't explain the reason I requested to speak to their manager. Kept a log of names, numbers, titles, etc.

I escalated the issue to a VP of operations at Ameritech and they acknowledged it should not have been required and offered to "fix the problem".

It was resolved.


35 posted on 02/17/2006 8:43:06 AM PST by Jambe ( Save the Cows ! -- Eat a Vegan !!!)
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Give 'em one.

Just don't give 'em yours.

36 posted on 02/17/2006 8:44:31 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Wombat101
"Time Warner does this all the time. They are seeking three things when they ask for your SSN:"

The only difference between Time Warner and Adelphia is Time Warner has not been caught yet. Adelphia wanted my SS# but they didn't get it.

37 posted on 02/17/2006 8:44:57 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: Salgak
Since when did you need a SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER to get Internet Access?

Another unclear on the concept....

The request is to make sure the cable bill gets paid, not as a tool to control your "internet access".
You would be amazed at the number of flakes who don't pay their cable bill, and we all have to deal with the fallout.
Of course, it begs the question: how do illegals who "borrow" other people's SS number get away with it?

38 posted on 02/17/2006 8:55:24 AM PST by Publius6961
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Send them a check for a year's service in advance and use a bogus SS number. I bet they cash the check and give you the internet service. Cable Companies are not in the habit of turning down checks.


39 posted on 02/17/2006 8:56:07 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Indy Pendance
In our area, there is only one provider. If they want your business, they'll find another 'tracking' number to use.

Actually, that would be more likely if there were MORE than one provider. Lacking any competition, there's little or no reason to listen to what the customer wants.

40 posted on 02/17/2006 8:58:50 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: Salgak

It's all for a credit check to make sure you can pay your bills.


41 posted on 02/17/2006 9:01:44 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Kirkwood

My wife isn't eligeable for a SSN number until our immigration process is complete. She has to use a personal TIN (tax payer identification number). No other agency or private company can require the use of an SSN unless it is for business with the social security administration. You legally can't use it for a driver liscence or for anything else.


42 posted on 02/17/2006 9:06:49 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: AppyPappy
Probably for credit though I can't imagine why.

Its for credit. It shouldn't be shocking. Anytime (%99) you apply for a loan or apply for a credit card...you fill out your SSN number on the application. Credit actions get reported to Experian, TransUnion?, and the other one I can't remember. The data on your credit is organized by your SSN number.

43 posted on 02/17/2006 9:10:07 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Itīs way past time to shut the barn door on illegal aliens.)
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To: Publius6961
The request is to make sure the cable bill gets paid, not as a tool to control your "internet access".

I don't know if I would object to the company controling or monitoring of internet access for people w/o a SSN number...i.e. NON-citizens.

44 posted on 02/17/2006 9:13:19 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Itīs way past time to shut the barn door on illegal aliens.)
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To: Salgak

My cable company gives you two choices. Social Security number or Driver's License Number.


45 posted on 02/17/2006 9:14:43 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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My stupid former bank took all the Homeland Security rules and ran with them. It was litterally impossible to do business with them. Probably a case of an idiot manager trying to be real through with governmental regs. Kinda like the school peoples filing sexual harassment against a 6 year old boy for putting his finger under the bracelet a little girl was wearing or filing charges against a 7 year old girl for bring a plastic knife to school to spread peanut butter on a sandwich, or ........... just idiot lefty looney losers who most likely vote just as ignorantly trying to show us their patriotism.


46 posted on 02/17/2006 9:21:52 AM PST by right right
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To: randog

That was too funny to read this early. Thanks for the laugh.


47 posted on 02/17/2006 9:31:06 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My pug is on her war footing.)
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To: ridesthemiles

i used to treat my ssn like a state secret, then a friend emailed mine to me along with all kinds of past address info and asked if it was correct. he had gotten it off of a 75$/mo background check site with my name and city/state.

there is no data privacy now.


48 posted on 02/17/2006 9:33:48 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Salgak
Since when did you need a SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER to get Internet Access ???

Run . . . . . VERY fast and VERY far away from this. Time Warner ain't the only ISP in America.
49 posted on 02/17/2006 9:53:57 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Salgak

It's so that if you don't return the cable modem, they can AND WILL ding your credit.

Believe me, they dinged my credit when I trusted a former roommate to return the cable modem at the end of the month when I moved out mid-month.

If you can just pay a deposit in lieu of letting them run a credit report, do so.


50 posted on 02/17/2006 9:54:16 AM PST by Kluster (FIRE DREIER)
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