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Matthews Insists Guest Agree this the Beginning of a "Big, Bad Year for Bush"
MSNBC/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/17/2006 6:52:24 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

February 17, 2006

It wasn't enough for Chris Matthews to analogize the Bush administration to a family of Mafia killers. He had to call President Bush "Fredo," the weak brother. Matthews' theory was that Bush was unable to control Cheney's handling of the shooting incident in a manner similar to which Fredo was unable to control his wife.

As he amply demonstrated at his press conference today, Harry Whittington is not on life support, but Matthews was working as feverishly as an EMS on a heart attack victim to keep the Cheney story alive. And in doing so, Matthews managed to be ungracious to perhaps the most gracious man in America, the very same Harry Whittington himself. Said a sneering Matthews:

"They dressed up Mr. Whittington rather well with a lot of make-up he looked great, I'm glad he's back, but he walked right back into the hospital again. What was that? "

Chimed in a 'helpful' Margaret Carlson: "I think he had his PJs on underneath."

Matthews stuck his dagger a little deeper: "He reminded me of Chernenko [the moribund Soviet leader] voting a couple years ago in Russia when the guy goes into a room next door, they made it look like a voting station, and the guy goes right back to bed."

So intent was Matthews on spinning current events into an omen of an impending annus horribilus for President Bush that he wouldn't take 'no' for an answer from his other guest, Mike Allen of Time magazine.

Matthews tried painted a grim picture: "This sixth year [historically for presidents] is the real sixth year problem and here we have it being kicked off with gunfire, the Vice President shoots someone, by accident, and with lots of questions lingering about it. Is this the beginning of the big, bad year for Bush?"

When Allen answered "not necessarily," Matthews cut him off: "don't say that. Help me out here!"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cheney; chrismatthews; hardball; margaretcarlson; mikeallen; msnbc; shooting; whittington
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1 posted on 02/17/2006 6:52:27 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Hardball/NewsBusters ping to Today Show list.


2 posted on 02/17/2006 6:53:46 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Lots of questions lingering? Only where the rabid left are concerned, the rest of us are too busy watching American Idol and Dancing with The Stars.


3 posted on 02/17/2006 6:54:49 PM PST by psjones
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

All the left-wing crap over a hunting accident.

Don't those people have anything better to talk about?


4 posted on 02/17/2006 6:55:50 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Big bad year? heh-heh. Guess he missed the President's town hall meet in Florida today. He's never been better!


5 posted on 02/17/2006 6:57:06 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So intent was Matthews on spinning current events into an omen of an impending annus horribilus for President Bush that he wouldn't take 'no' for an answer from his other guest, Mike Allen of Time magazine

Bet it took some real arm twisting to get TIME to agree !

Geeezooee


6 posted on 02/17/2006 6:57:52 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (The Death Penalty isn't for making examples it's for making bad people DEAD!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
No wonder Hardball is at the bottom of the ratings.

Who watches this stupid crap?

7 posted on 02/17/2006 6:58:28 PM PST by Jorge
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Surprisingly, as you'll note, the Time guy said that it wouldn't necessarily be a bad year for Bush. That's what caused Matthews to reply: "don't say that - help me out here!"


8 posted on 02/17/2006 6:59:07 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Chris Matthews gets his paycheck from the DNC, or at least he should be charging the DNC for his services.

He's like a gigolo who adores his job and his DNC bosses.

He's like a lawyer for a mafia... Always making dishonest assertions on behalf of the Family.

He's the hustler who sold Jack, from Jack and the Beanstalk, the so-called magic beans, and took the poor kid's cow that was supposed to be sold at market so he could feed his family. There's no such thing as magic beans.

There are a million bad analogies, but none is worse than Chris Matthews on a bad hair day.


9 posted on 02/17/2006 7:00:21 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
When Allen answered "not necessarily," Matthews cut him off: "don't say that. Help me out here!"

Saw it. These media rats are sad, depressed, sweaty, and pathetic.

10 posted on 02/17/2006 7:01:11 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Jorge
Who watches this stupid crap?

Forty frustrated and bitter Liberals.

11 posted on 02/17/2006 7:01:30 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I'm happy to inform the world that Chris Matthews is not a prophet.


12 posted on 02/17/2006 7:01:42 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If Chrissy screams in the middle of the forest and nobody hears him, did he make a sound ?


13 posted on 02/17/2006 7:02:13 PM PST by John Lenin (Rehab is for quitters)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Keep talking Chrissy ... you sound like the loony kos kids


14 posted on 02/17/2006 7:03:11 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Does anybody take this whacko Matthews seriously? I mean, it seems the only people who watch his show scoff at it and him. Maybe Zell Miller watches it in order to prepare for the duel - that "know your enemy" thing.


15 posted on 02/17/2006 7:03:30 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I predict this is the beginning of a big, bad year for Matthews.

And I'll bet my prediction is more accurate than Matthews'.


17 posted on 02/17/2006 7:04:46 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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To: daybreakcoming

Pretty bad year, getting two justices on the SCOTUS in six months.


18 posted on 02/17/2006 7:05:26 PM PST by Perdogg (I'd rather go hunting with Cheney, than riding in Ted Kennedy's car)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The "reality-based community" has been making much the same arguments.
19 posted on 02/17/2006 7:06:07 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Creationism Is Not Conservative!)
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To: Supernatural
All the left-wing crap over a hunting accident. Don't those people have anything better to talk about?

They could talk about Able Danger... or not.

20 posted on 02/17/2006 7:06:48 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: ovrtaxt

They could, but they won't.

At least they are consistant.


21 posted on 02/17/2006 7:09:12 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"They dressed up Mr. Whittington rather well with a lot of make-up he looked great, I'm glad he's back, but he walked right back into the hospital again. What was that? "

Apparently, spitter Chrissy missed the fact the Mr. Whittington was released from the hospital today. If he walked right back into the hospital, it was to sign his discharge papers. These people are pathetic.

22 posted on 02/17/2006 7:09:19 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: ovrtaxt

What Chris should worry about is Cable Danger.


23 posted on 02/17/2006 7:11:49 PM PST by auboy (The press practices free screech. And they're really good at it.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

"annus horribilus"
__________________

Chrissy IS anus horribilus!


24 posted on 02/17/2006 7:12:38 PM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

"annus horribilus"
__________________

Chrissy IS anus horribilus!


25 posted on 02/17/2006 7:12:40 PM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
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To: Supernatural

NO..they don't..and that is why Chrissy has been non-stop on this all week.

In fact on the show tonight...he kept saying it was all about Cheney..and how much FUN they were going to have.

THEN, he has that STUPID group of MSNBC talking heads on, Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson, and Ron Reagan...

Tucker Carlson is the ONLY one on the show that tried to put the shooting in perspective...and he was pretty well chided by the rest..even though even HE made the comment that he didn't see why Cheney would go hunting "right after drinking beer"...

which we know is NOT the case...so, even though he tried to talk it down...he misrepresented the facts...sigh


26 posted on 02/17/2006 7:12:51 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: daybreakcoming
Guess he missed the President's town hall meet in Florida today. He's never been better!

And Big Stupid Government has never stolen and spent more! Hooray!

27 posted on 02/17/2006 7:14:22 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: auboy

LOL!! hehe


28 posted on 02/17/2006 7:14:57 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: Txsleuth

I sure agree with you.

What I can't figure out is a week or so ago Chrissy started leaning to the right and the lefties jumped all over him.

Now he is back to the left again.

Maybe he hasn't got his "sea legs" under him yet.


29 posted on 02/17/2006 7:15:54 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Matthew's mouth always worries me. When I was a kid, I had an uncle who chewed tobacco, so I know that look.

I picture Chris waiting for the end of his show so he can go stuff another plug of RedMan chewing tobacco in his mouth.

One of my cousins and I were fooling around on my uncle's farm and came across a mouse nest with little hairless pink baby mice in it. Uncle Frank had fallen asleep in his chair on the front porch so we decided to get his pouch of chewing tobacco, put the baby mice in it and sneak off into the bushes to see what happened next. It didn't take long for the events to unfold...I guess he wasn't watching as he reached into the pouch because it was the only time we ever saw him spit the tobacco (and a baby mouse) out before chewing.

He changed brands and never bought RedMan again.

30 posted on 02/17/2006 7:16:02 PM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: Hank Rearden; daybreakcoming
And Big Stupid Government has never stolen and spent more! Hooray!

Why Hank, WHY am I NOT surprised that YOU would agree with Chrissy Matthews? hmmmmmmm...methinks your "true" conservative colors (super extreme sarcasm) need some solidifying....
31 posted on 02/17/2006 7:16:39 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I think he's warning us that Bushes honeymoon with the press is over, so we may see a negative article or two coming down the road. Toughen up, we knew it couldn't be all hugs and kisses between the Bush administration and the mainstream media forever, it may even affect the positive relationship Cheney has always had with the beltway media.


32 posted on 02/17/2006 7:16:43 PM PST by ansel12
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
CNBC, MSNBC, CNN -- do they understand that watching these hate-mongering b*tchy vipers spewing out gratuitious venom year after year in leiu of "political analysis" makes them a sick joke?

Now wonder FOX has been cleaning their clocks.

33 posted on 02/17/2006 7:17:13 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Dear God.....

Please allow me to have a chance encounter with this socialist knob, Chris Matthews.....

I know that you will answer my prayer......

Amen.


34 posted on 02/17/2006 7:17:46 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Maybe this is minor. Why didn't we hear about UAE buying and controlling US ports before it was smothered in the same week during the Cheney accident coverage?


35 posted on 02/17/2006 7:19:44 PM PST by swheats
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To: Txsleuth
even though even HE made the comment that he didn't see why Cheney would go hunting "right after drinking beer"...

Sharp as always, sleuth. I caught that. Tucker may have a different bias than Hissy, but he isn't any better at getting the facts. These people are pathetic.

36 posted on 02/17/2006 7:20:00 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: ansel12

Maybe I should add, I was being a little sarcastic.


37 posted on 02/17/2006 7:20:43 PM PST by ansel12
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I was up - tossing and turning, and surrendered - around 4am this morning, and began channel flipping.

Imus had Chrissie on, and the albino swore to the prune that he was personally gonna make sure this "story" keeps it's legs another week or so.

(I should just pass over MSNBC during such times...it's really just the "DNC Talking Points Hour", with old Imus doing nothing but drooling and having his chats with his press buddies.)

38 posted on 02/17/2006 7:21:51 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"They dressed up Mr. Whittington rather well with a lot of make-up he looked great, I'm glad he's back, but he walked right back into the hospital again. What was that? "

Idiot remark of the year.

39 posted on 02/17/2006 7:22:15 PM PST by aculeus
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
My perspective on the Cheney incident is that it was handled perfectly. Sure, the MSM desperately desires that they could have had at Cheney moments after the accident occurred, but Cheney is far too compassionate to put his dealings with the media before the health and welfare of his hunting companion, and he is far too intelligent to throw himself to the wolves.

Listen closely to the MSM and the 'Rats and what do you hear? One mantra is that "the VP should be held to a higher standard than what is required under the law." Interestingly, the mantra was just the opposite when a 'Rat P chose to perjure himself and encourage others to do so for him, and when a 'Rat VP chose to claim the absence of a legal authority concerning shaking down foreign nuns for illegal campaign contributions. However, the facts of the Cheney incident show that he did hold himself to a higher standard than the law. TX law has no requirement for law enforcement to be notified, yet Cheney's party notified local law enforcement the day of the accident.

From what I can tell, Cheney has emerged from this smelling of roses, while the MSM and the 'Rats continue to look like fools as they play their game of sandbox politics in the public eye. Sure, Cheney screwed the pooch big time. I'm sure his male pride took a serious hit upon causing a serious accident that required violation of some basic rules of firearm safety. However, he didn't break the law, he didn't abandon his companion, he didn't dodge responsibility, and, fortunately, his official duties don't require him to be carrying a shotgun on the job. I can only hope that the 'Rats and the MSM will continue to bellyache about this, as the more they do the better Cheney and the 'Icans look.

40 posted on 02/17/2006 7:23:06 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that Democrats are patriots?)
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To: Howie66

I suggest praying to Allah, versus God....Chrissie hangs out a lot more over there.


41 posted on 02/17/2006 7:23:27 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I've been switching over to MSNBC, at that time, because I just can't take any more of Shep.

I'm amazed that Matthews just doesn't get it. Has he no idea what middle America thinks?

And----- why the heck is Ron Reagan still being called on for an opinion on anything?


42 posted on 02/17/2006 7:25:51 PM PST by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: auboy
Somewhere in North Dakota, there is a middle school basketball game with more viewers than "Slimeball."
43 posted on 02/17/2006 7:26:07 PM PST by BW2221
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To: appleharvey

Hey, how about me? ;-)


44 posted on 02/17/2006 7:26:36 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Baynative
Hardball - 219,000 viewers (78,000)

I was looking for the curling competition on CNBC which is close to MSNBC on my cable system.

45 posted on 02/17/2006 7:26:41 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Supernatural

What did you hear Chrissy go "right" on??

I didn't hear it...


46 posted on 02/17/2006 7:26:51 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
From what I can tell, Cheney has emerged from this smelling of roses

If you are actually a good and decent person, this might actually shine through.

47 posted on 02/17/2006 7:27:30 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: ErnBatavia

F*** Allah!


48 posted on 02/17/2006 7:27:38 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: i_dont_chat

lol.....and I hope you are right!


49 posted on 02/17/2006 7:27:49 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: aculeus

Pathetic. Just pathetic. Spinning himself into the abyss of endless stupidity.


50 posted on 02/17/2006 7:28:12 PM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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