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Jewish group wants Ahmedinejad tried in ICC... When Europeans Attack
ha'aretz ^ | Last update - 04:18 19/02/2006

Posted on 02/18/2006 7:02:46 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

The European Jewish Congress (EJC) is set to file a complaint in the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague against Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for incitement to genocide, EJC president Pierre Besnainou told Haaretz.

Besnainou, who was in Israel last week, said the complaint was an independent initiative of the EJC, but noted that Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni had been informed of the intention to file the complaint. The initiative is expected to pass by a large majority in the general assembly of the EJC, which convenes Sunday in Vienna.

The EJC is also promoting a resolution in the European Parliament in Strasbourg to declare Ahmadinejad persona non grata in the 25 European Union member-states. At the same time, the EJC also has the intention of signing prominent politicians, business people and intellectuals on a petition, to be published in European newspapers calling on the governments of Europe to prevent Ahmadinejad from visiting their countries.

Besnainou, a French businessman who was elected president of the EJC last June, told Haaretz, "Ahmadinejad must not set foot on the Continent where he claims the Holocaust did not take place", adding "I cannot imagine that the members of the EU parliament will refuse to adopt this resolution." Besnainou criticized the actions of the EU governments so far on the matter, arguing that they should have recalled their ambassadors for consultations but chose not to do so for "political reasons."

Experts in international law told Haaretz that a criminal complaint filed against Ahmadinejad had little chance of success in the ICC since Iran was not a signatory to its charter and therefore the court ostensibly does not have jurisdiction to try Ahmadinejad. However, the prominent French attorney Francis Piner, who is coordinating the case, told Haaretz "the significance of the fact that Iran is not a signatory to the court's charter is only that this country will not actively cooperate with it. It does not have to prevent the filing of the complaint, since otherwise there would have been no point in establishing such a court."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; thehague
You never know what crazy law those Europeans will come up with next.
1 posted on 02/18/2006 7:02:49 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Alouette

"I am very frightening of your laws. Look at me, so scaryful."

2 posted on 02/18/2006 7:04:55 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
You never know what crazy law those Europeans will come up with next.

One year ago yesterday the UK announced a ban on fox hunting.

More people fox hunt now than ever before, it was the best recruiting advert anyone could have given the Countryside Alliance and stirred up grassroots conservatism like nothing else has done,

And the animal activists got the ban they always dreamed about, they can sleep peacefully at night knowing that their cuddly foxes are protected by law.

Everybody wins!

The idea of banning people who cannot be banned has a lovely logic to it. I just don't know why you don't do it in the USA,


kind regards.
3 posted on 02/18/2006 7:17:55 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Uh well.

Do you remember Ariel Sharon avoiding journeys to Europe and NATO because a Beligian court was starting legal proceedings against him after he was charged with mass murder through some Palestinians in 2001? Since European courts are autonomous and politically independent it was a real danger for him to come to Europe.

Do you remember Augusto Pinochet being grounded for two years in Great Britain between 1998 and 2000?

Have you seen Slobodan Milosevic in front of the ICC in The Hague? I can't imagine that he is feeling very comfortable.

It is indeed a big problem for any person (no matter if he is a "leader" or not) if the European Union is serving a arrest warrant on him or her. Even your own gouvernment realized that it could be a big problem for US citizens. It has its reason why America tries to make sure that their soldiers are not being prosecuted by the ICC.

I.e. all U.S. troops in Romania benefit from immunity under a 2001 status-of-forces agreement as well as under a so-called Article 98 agreement, which in effect obliges Romania not to extradite any U.S. personnel to the International Criminal Court in The Hague. Romania was the first country in the world to sign such an agreement with the United States; many others – including Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, and Macedonia – have since followed. The bigger and more powerful European nations like Germany, France, Italy, GB, Poland and Spain have no agreements with the US and are for sure not willing to sign it.

Although I can understand that the US are trying to keep the jurisdiction of their own soldiers I do not understand why Ahmedinejad should get this extra treatment. To forget him in a lonely French dungeon would be a good solution.

4 posted on 02/18/2006 7:37:49 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge; Cinnamon Girl

P.S.

I didn't want to equate Ariel Sharon with Augusto Pinochet or Slobodan Milosevic. It is just because he had also his problems with European justice.


5 posted on 02/18/2006 7:44:18 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I seem to recall Euro-weenies wanting to try members of the Israeli government in the ICC as well. President Bush too...

Mark


6 posted on 02/18/2006 7:44:32 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I hope the Armenians would succeed in the same way to accuse Islamofascist Turkey for the Armenian Genocide.


7 posted on 02/18/2006 8:12:33 PM PST by Wiz (News hyaena providing you news with spice of acid)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I have a hard time imagining the Israelis running to Europe for protection.

Better they should ask God.


8 posted on 02/18/2006 8:27:20 PM PST by keats5
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To: vimto
The idea of banning people who cannot be banned has a lovely logic to it. I just don't know why you don't do it in the USA

Well we do have laws against drug use and illegal aliens... that counts for something.

9 posted on 02/18/2006 8:38:36 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: keats5

The Israelis aren't running to Europe for protection. What are you talking about?


10 posted on 02/18/2006 8:59:31 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

11 posted on 02/18/2006 9:14:55 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 97-103)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

I.e. all U.S. troops in Romania benefit from immunity under a 2001 status-of-forces agreement as well as under a so-called Article 98 agreement, which in effect obliges Romania not to extradite any U.S. personnel to the International Criminal Court in The Hague. Romania was the first country in the world to sign such an agreement with the United States; many others – including Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, and Macedonia – have since followed. The bigger and more powerful European nations like Germany, France, Italy, GB, Poland and Spain have no agreements with the US and are for sure not willing to sign it.

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Why do you use the words 'so-called' to describe Article 98?

Is Article 98 not really called Article 98? That it is really called something else, requiring it to be referred to as the 'so called Article 98'?


12 posted on 02/18/2006 10:50:14 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: gogogodzilla
Why do you use the words 'so-called' to describe Article 98? Is Article 98 not really called Article 98? That it is really called something else, requiring it to be referred to as the 'so called Article 98'?

Written without any intention.

13 posted on 02/18/2006 11:00:30 PM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Ahmadinejad answers only to a higher authority who wants him to kill you. - tom

From winds of change:
"Ahmadinejad said that someone present at the UN told him that a light surrounded him while he was delivering his speech to the General Assembly. The Iranian president added that he also sensed it.

"He said when you began with the words 'in the name of God,' I saw that you became surrounded by a light until the end [of the speech]," Ahmadinejad appears to say in the video. "I felt it myself, too. I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there, and for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink."

Ahmadinejad adds that he is not exaggerating.

"I am not exaggerating when I say they did not blink; it's not an exaggeration, because I was looking," he says. "They were astonished as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

14 posted on 02/19/2006 8:22:27 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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15 posted on 02/19/2006 12:08:28 PM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

There is no court suitable for this guy. A bullet to his face or preferrably the stomach is what he deserves.


16 posted on 02/19/2006 3:05:39 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Every single troll is now an enemy of the Republic!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Granted, I was speaking loosely. I consider the International Criminal Court to be mostly a European organization, and that's where they were seeking to have this adjudicated. My point is that I doubt they would get much satisfaction there.
17 posted on 02/19/2006 8:26:51 PM PST by keats5
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