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Bush's Chat With Novelist Alarms Environmentalists [Michael Crichton]
New York Times ^ | February 19, 2006 | MICHAEL JANOFSKY

Posted on 02/18/2006 9:03:04 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

One of the perquisites of being president is the ability to have the author of a book you enjoyed pop into the White House for a chat.

Over the years, a number of writers have visited President Bush, including Natan Sharansky, Bernard Lewis and John Lewis Gaddis. And while the meetings are usually private, they rarely ruffle feathers.

Now, one has.

In his new book about Mr. Bush, "Rebel in Chief: Inside the Bold and Controversial Presidency of George W. Bush," Fred Barnes recalls a visit to the White House last year by Michael Crichton, whose 2004 best-selling novel, "State of Fear," suggests that global warming is an unproven theory and an overstated threat.

Mr. Barnes, who describes Mr. Bush as "a dissenter on the theory of global warming," writes that the president "avidly read" the novel and met the author after Karl Rove, his chief political adviser, arranged it. He says Mr. Bush and his guest "talked for an hour and were in near-total agreement."

"The visit was not made public for fear of outraging environmentalists all the more," he adds.

And so it has, fueling a common perception among environmental groups that Mr. Crichton's dismissal of global warming, coupled with his popularity as a novelist and screenwriter, has undermined efforts to pass legislation intended to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide, a gas that leading scientists say causes climate change.

Mr. Crichton, whose views in "State of Fear" helped him win the American Association of Petroleum Geologists' annual journalism award this month, has been a leading doubter of global warming and last September appeared before a Senate committee to argue that the supporting science was mixed, at best.

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KEYWORDS: americahate; bush; crichton; earth; environmentalism; enviroweenies; globalwarming; junkscience; michaelcrichton; rebelinchief; stateoffear
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1 posted on 02/18/2006 9:03:06 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative
I read this book. The enviros should be afraid because Crichton totally devastates the fantasy that humans are somehow affecting the planetary weather systems.

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2 posted on 02/18/2006 9:05:09 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Heartening.


3 posted on 02/18/2006 9:06:38 PM PST by jwalburg (If I have not seen as far as others, it is because of the giants standing on my shoulders.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Have read, and enjoyed, the book. Pokes some fun at the Hollywood green types too.

Iced in here in OKC, could use a little warming right now.


4 posted on 02/18/2006 9:07:32 PM PST by TLOne (All the terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and let them rule.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

On my "To Read" list; sitting on my nightstand.


5 posted on 02/18/2006 9:08:02 PM PST by birbear (You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Excellent.


6 posted on 02/18/2006 9:10:51 PM PST by billybudd
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To: TLOne
Pokes some fun at the Hollywood green types too.

I especially liked the part where the pompous ass Hollyweird actor "who plays the President on TV" (modeled after Martin Sheen) gets eaten by cannibals.

7 posted on 02/18/2006 9:13:49 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 97-103)
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To: billybudd

One more time. Consider the source.

The dreaded NYT.

Pass.


8 posted on 02/18/2006 9:14:52 PM PST by CBart95
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To: West Coast Conservative

Aren't environmentalists perpetually "alarmed" at something?


9 posted on 02/18/2006 9:16:52 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: West Coast Conservative
has undermined efforts to pass legislation intended to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide, a gas that leading scientists say causes climate change.

So does E85 NOT emit carbon dioxide?

10 posted on 02/18/2006 9:17:28 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Lurker

I read it, and like many of Crichton's books it's way over the top, but the foot notes are real. The theme of the book is what's important, and that is that scientists like anyone else, know which side of their bread is buttered. These days, any scientist that comes up with data that doesn't prove "Global Warming" doesn't get the grant, tenure or a spot on stage.


11 posted on 02/18/2006 9:27:44 PM PST by StACase
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To: West Coast Conservative
We are definitely experiencing global warming. It is 29 degrees here in San Antonio.
12 posted on 02/18/2006 9:30:14 PM PST by Hendrix
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To: Alouette
I especially liked the part where the pompous ass Hollyweird actor "who plays the President on TV" (modeled after Martin Sheen) gets eaten by cannibals.

Cleanup on aisle 3!!

There are some mental images we were NOT meant to see....

13 posted on 02/18/2006 9:30:44 PM PST by thulldud ("Muslim Community Leaders Warn of Backlash from Tomorrow's Terrorist Attack")
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To: West Coast Conservative

Crichton has been taking a lot of heat for disagreeing with what has become dogma. The simple fact is that the alarmists have always been wrong on population, on energy, and I think they are wrong again on global warming. There are a lot of good things that could come from a more temperate global climate and regardless implementing painful political regimens which accomplish little more than to punish ourselves in an attempt to change something we can not control will solve nothing. We can not even get a simple habitat functioning "correctly" in a sealed biosphere and the idea that we can some how "fix" the global climate when the definition of broken is something we are not certain of is more than a little absurd.


14 posted on 02/18/2006 9:32:25 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Intellectual honesty is the scrub brush of the soul.)
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To: TLOne

Supposed to be 15 here tonight....30 miles south of Seattle....and it's been blowing and cold for 3 days....GLOBAL warming my arse!


15 posted on 02/18/2006 9:32:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (Too many idiots....so little time.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Anything that pisses off environMENTALists makes me very very happy. *warm and fuzzy inside*
16 posted on 02/18/2006 9:33:40 PM PST by M203M4
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To: West Coast Conservative
If I could go back and be a writer I would write like Crichton. Nobody gives better science lessons while telling great stories better than he. He is so thorough and detailed researching and explaining the technology behind his story. It's fascinating. Jurassic Park is probably the best novel I have ever read, and not only for the story, but for the science lessons he put so well in layman's terms.
17 posted on 02/18/2006 9:35:12 PM PST by manwiththehands (Repeal the 17th Amendment. NOW.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Compared to gasoline, E85 has a higher octane (105), but lower energy content per unit of volume. Consequently, E85 fuel economy is less than 87 octane gasoline, and vehicles operating on E85 may experience reduced range.

Hmmm so their goes that -4 carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide since you have to fuel up more to get where your going.

source

18 posted on 02/18/2006 9:36:28 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Not that I know, but I gain the impression that environmentism functions as a kind of relgion for many people. To them the biosphere is like some huge organism, and who are like cancer cells that are killing it.


19 posted on 02/18/2006 9:37:30 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: TLOne
Global warming alert from Silverdale, WA, near Seattle.

For the past several days we have enjoyed lows in the middle to high teens, low 20s, with daily highs in the mid to low 30s. This is about 10-25 degrees below most normal highs and lows. So, send some of that warm air this way. Tomorrow the heat wave is predicted at 47 and sunny, so we will bask in its glow because starting Tuesday, the 10 day forecast is back to mid-40 highs, low 30s for nights and rain, rain, rain/snow mix, and more rain again. Back to normal! Uggggggggggg.

20 posted on 02/18/2006 9:37:32 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America is doomed to be socialist. Way too many people with palms pointed up!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I agree. The ONLY thing we should fear, is the environmental wacko's!!

Climate change comes and goes in cycles. Unfortunately, the stupidity of the environmentalist wacko's doesn't.....
21 posted on 02/18/2006 9:37:55 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal.")
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To: birbear

It's a great read!


22 posted on 02/18/2006 9:37:59 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mannaggia l'America
Aren't environmentalists perpetually "alarmed" at something?

No more often than Muslims are angry at something.

23 posted on 02/18/2006 9:44:19 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Alouette

Don't tell too much, make'em read it.

I'd probably go see this one if made into a film.


24 posted on 02/18/2006 9:45:41 PM PST by TLOne (All the terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and let them rule.)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

"Aren't environmentalists perpetually "alarmed" at something?"

Not just the environ-mentals, the left, the Islamofascists, the PETA's, the Greenies, etc., etc., etc.

The world is full of irrational, emotional hysterical fruitcakes.



25 posted on 02/18/2006 9:49:59 PM PST by garyhope (Peace through superior firepower, A-10's, C-130 gunships, rational thought and pragmatism.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This just shows that it takes very few people going the other direction to break a monopoly. It took just Rush Limbaugh at the beginning to break the liberal media's monopoly. The editorial page of the Wall Street Journal stood alone, and quite effective, against the other newspapers. FoxNews all by itself, has been breaking the monopoly of the MSM networks. A few actors and a handful of authors and conservative college professors will hopefully soon break up the liberal monopoly in other important areas.


26 posted on 02/18/2006 9:51:44 PM PST by winner3000
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The visit was not made public for fear of outraging environmentalists all the more," he adds.

Why not? As Martha would say, "It's a good thing."

27 posted on 02/18/2006 9:52:58 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: West Coast Conservative

OTOH, Gore Vidal, a writer of "historical fiction" is interviewed as a biographer of Lincoln on The History Channel.


28 posted on 02/18/2006 9:57:15 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: West Coast Conservative
Bush's Chat With Novelist Alarms Environmentalists

Add "Alarms" to the list of liberal buzzwords like "scary" and "frightening" used to describe those who disagree with them as even more dangerous than they could possibly have imagined.

Oh, not that they voted for W, or respect his intelligence, or patriotism, or competence... yet somehow they're still alarmed.

Wake me when the New York Times learns how to speak literally.

29 posted on 02/18/2006 10:00:39 PM PST by impatient
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To: West Coast Conservative

Criton is also Democrat, how has usually donated to Democratic candidates and causes. However, he is very good researcher, and knows how to turn facts into facinting stories. I'm sure he didn't arrive at this position lightly.

The NGO's had everyone conviced that Global Warming was for real, and that intervention would have a real impact. They really, really don't want anyone to get in the way. Further, the book is probably an indictment of the new NGO-enviro industry, which has become more powerful and self interested than nearly any corporate or political entity.


30 posted on 02/18/2006 10:01:10 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: TLOne
We unfortunately enjoy far too much warmth on this icy night (even in these subtropical latitudes) to satisfy the enviro-wackos and their Islamofascist friends. To placate them, we simply should freeze in the dark. Even in the seventh century, the Native American population used fire to keep warm, but we the Government should prohibit us from so warming ourselves because it might cause global warming. Oil of course is evil, like all liquid fuels, so we cannot go anywhere. We dare not even use stagecoach because horses fluctuate. So bleak is our future.
31 posted on 02/18/2006 10:05:25 PM PST by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [44 D] comprises fewer than the minority [55 R])
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To: Ma3lst0rm
There are a lot of good things that could come from a more temperate global climate and regardless implementing painful political regimens which accomplish little more than to punish ourselves in an attempt to change something we can not control will solve nothing.

Ah, but you miss the real point of "global warming", "climate change", "Kyoto", et al. Environmentalism has no desire to actually do anything about climate change. Instead, the effort is designed to transfer wealth and power -- to them and to their client regimes -- while destroying capitalism.

Environmentalism is nothing more than our old friend, totalitarian socialism, in a green uniform -- complete with "useful idiots".

32 posted on 02/18/2006 10:12:26 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Mr. Bush and his guest "talked for an hour and were in near-total agreement."

I find that very heartening, agreeing with Chrichton on environmental matters is a very, very good thing.

33 posted on 02/18/2006 10:20:45 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: manwiththehands
Jurassic Park is probably the best novel I have ever read, and not only for the story, but for the science lessons he put so well in layman's terms.

Hearing Charlton Heston read the part about "Life Will Find a Way" raises the hair in the back of your neck.

34 posted on 02/18/2006 10:24:54 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Aliens Cause Global Warming...A lecture by Michael Crichton.
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35 posted on 02/18/2006 10:35:20 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The visit was not made public for fear of outraging environmentalists all the more," he adds.

Pish. Maybe it wasn't made public because it was a private conversation? I know, I know, novel idea and all that, but not everyone wants to (or should!) tell every little detail about every little conversation. Even if he is the President, he does have the right to privacy. :P

Now that I've gotten that little burr off my mind (that statement really annoyed me, lol), I'll say that the book mentioned is on my "To Read" list.. which is about a mile long, and growing every day. I'm a regular bookworm. And I'm sure I'll enjoy it, as I've enjoyed The Andromeda Strain (I need to re-read that one.. haven't read it in years), and Jurassic Park. Personally, I think the book is more frightening than the movie.. and I don't freak easily anymore, so if I freak over something, I know it's good!

And "global warming" my arse. I'll believe that when I don't need 6+ blankets on my bed to keep warm in the winter! Of course.. even if I don't strictly need them.. I may keep them there anyway. I'm a blanket hog, too. :P :)

Cheers,

~Moshi-chan

36 posted on 02/18/2006 10:41:56 PM PST by Moshikashitara (Maiban neru mai ni... watashi no koto kangaeru ka?)
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To: nutmeg

read later


37 posted on 02/18/2006 10:42:33 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: okie01; Ma3lst0rm
Environmentalism is nothing more than our old friend, totalitarian socialism, in a green uniform -- complete with "useful idiots".

That's why they call 'em "watermelon environmentalists."

Green on the outside, Red on the inside.

38 posted on 02/18/2006 11:53:59 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: RobbyS

The enviornmentalists are supposedly scientists who would never descend into "superstitious religion" but here they are preaching "Global Warming." Crichton has called their bluff and exposed them as phonies.


39 posted on 02/19/2006 12:18:58 AM PST by Nextrush (The Chris Matthews Band: "I get high..I get high...I get high..McCain.")
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To: West Coast Conservative
legislation intended to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide, a gas that leading scientists say causes climate change.

Any educated, informed reader should note that the name of these "leading scientists" is never provided.
One man's "leading scientist" is another man's moonbat, particularly when they are scientists only in their own minds...

40 posted on 02/19/2006 1:25:45 AM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: mugs99

Also his lecture "Fear, Complexity and Environmental Management in the 21st Century:" http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speeches/complexity/complexity.html


41 posted on 02/19/2006 1:50:28 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: West Coast Conservative

I am shivering at the computer with two sweaters and a blanket. On the other hand we just had the warmest January in 100 years. There are those who believe that the big danger of global warming is that it will cause an imbalance leading to severe global cooling.

This Sunday, I guess this evening, 20/20 is having a special on the issue. It will be interesting to see what viewpoint they take and how they balance the arguments.


42 posted on 02/19/2006 1:56:23 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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To: Hendrix

It's a whopping 9 degrees here in KC. That's up from 3 degrees yesterday morning. Might make it up to 20 this afternoon.


43 posted on 02/19/2006 3:09:15 AM PST by barker (Growing older is NOT for wimps.)
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To: Lurker

"I read this book. The enviros should be afraid because Crichton totally devastates the fantasy that humans are somehow affecting the planetary weather systems."

I will give in to the envirowhackos that humans have played a significant role in affecting the weather.

Their solution? Let's keep the status quo by taking away technology from America and allow China and third world countries to pollute so that we will still be equal in our emissions.

What no one has asked these whackos is this, "If we stop progress, how long will it be to another ice age? " I mean I look at it this way. Take a pot of water in ice cold weather and it will freeze. Now put fire under it, slow but steady, That's global warming. Eventually the water will melt. Now turn off the fire. What happens?

Before I believe that there is global warming, I need that question answered.


44 posted on 02/19/2006 3:57:30 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We don't need POLITICIANS...we need STATESMEN.")
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To: TLOne
I'd probably go see this one if made into a film.

I don't remember there being much of a plot or character development, just an entertaining format to present the information he wanted us to read...

...rather like the "novel" Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey. It's really a refutation of some historic propaganda, not a novel.

Neither of these "novels" would make good movies.

45 posted on 02/19/2006 4:29:11 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: West Coast Conservative
And so it has, fueling a common perception among environmental groups that Mr. Crichton's dismissal of global warming,

As well, Mr. Crichton should. This global warming can be summed up in 1 small diagram that anyone can (or should be able to) understand.

It is a fact that, right now, the Sun is burning hotter than it has in 8,000 years (by scientists calculations).

Same distance between objects = hotter source = hotter objects.

It really isn't rocket science...it's simple (and I mean very simple) physics.

46 posted on 02/19/2006 4:37:59 AM PST by mattdono (The New 'Rat math: 0.0000017% = Vast Wiretapping of "Americans" Riiiggghhhhtttt...)
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To: Mike Darancette
Hearing Charlton Heston read the part about "Life Will Find a Way" raises the hair in the back of your neck.

That's funny. I just rewatched Jurasic Park on TV tonight as a fan of Sam Neil's acting and Jeff Goldblum's comedic relief. And was thinking about "Life finds a way" and how much further we've come along the cloning and DNA manipulation route since the book was first written.

Wonder how Chuck is doing lately with the Alzheimer's and arthritis. Remember fondly some of his roles, from his portrayals of Andrew Jackson to Moses to astronaut on The Planet of the Apes to The Omega Man.

God bless him. And thanks also to Crichton for a lot of reading and movie fun over the years. My favorite is still Andromeda Strain.

47 posted on 02/19/2006 4:38:43 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: mattdono
It is a fact that, right now, the Sun is burning hotter than it has in 8,000 years (by scientists calculations).

I would look very closely at any data claiming the sun was "hotter".

The answer may be simply precession, that we are in the part of our cycle where our axis (which wobbles back and forth) is tilted more toward the sun and coinciding with the time in our eliptical orbit around the sun where we are closer to the sun during the summer.

Precession cycles are around 10-12,000 years in length as I recall. I have an article about this linked from my profile page.

48 posted on 02/19/2006 4:46:45 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: RobbyS
environmentalism functions as a kind of religion for many people

You are exactly correct. The more far gone ones even refer openly to Gaia, their name for the Earth goddess. Some of the really radical animal rights whackos think that we're morally wrong for using oil because it disturbs the graves of dead dinosaurs. Unfortunately, as Dave Berry says, I am not making this up.

49 posted on 02/19/2006 4:47:54 AM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: Lurker
Crichton totally devastates the fantasy that humans are somehow affecting the planetary weather systems.

actually, he doesn't say we're not. In fact some of the best scientific evidence he links to shows that we are, just not in the way the global warming industry says. He destoys the studies of average temperature rise with studies of the urban heat island effect and how that distorts the readings in the global warming studies.

his basic argument, iin almost everytthing he writes, is that we really don't have a clue, and any suggestion otherwise is usually a) wrong and b) motivated by something other than a search for truth.

50 posted on 02/19/2006 4:49:24 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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