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Liberals Delude Themselves on Brokeback Mountain's Popularity
RealCearPolitics.com ^ | 2/20/06 | John Leo

Posted on 02/20/2006 11:52:55 AM PST by LdSentinal

Mickey Kaus at Kausfiles.com says that the gay-cowboy movie Brokeback Mountain has the same marketing strategy as Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11. Both, he says, have been hyped as blue-state movies that are reaching and changing minds in the cities of red America. He calls this the "Heartland Breakout Meme”. ("Meme" refers to a cultural copying unit that hops from brain to brain without much thought or any at all). What Kaus means is that the mainstream media keep reinforcing ideas liberals want to believe, whether they are true or not. But the alleged breakout of Fahrenheit appears to be myth, as Byron York shows by revealing some confidential movie-industry data in his new book, The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy.

Kaus thinks preliminary box office numbers indicate that Brokeback isn't reaching red America either. His point is that liberals delude themselves into overconfidence and harm the Democratic Party by projecting a false view of political reality. He writes: "If you think the visceral straight male reaction against male homosexual sex has effectively disappeared...you won't spend a lot of time trying to figure out the possible deep-seated, even innate, sources of resistance to liberalization... At worst, you'll pass them off as sheer redneck bigotry-a proven way to lose the red states for good".

A version of the “Heartland Breakout Meme” appeared when Bill Clinton, under pressure from the gay lobby, agreed to accept declared homosexuals into the armed services. The polls were mixed, and if read carefully, showed that much resistance seemed strong. But liberals thought it would be a low-cost initiative for Clinton. A few howls from the right and it would all be over. Liberals were stunned when the resistance inflicted considerable political damage on the new presidency and resulted in a policy that none had even imagined -- don't-ask-don't-tell.

A related meme is that marriage is a civil right that a just society must extend to gays. "Equality in marriage" reinforces the liberal belief that an entitlement is being arbitrarily withheld from an aggrieved group; again stoking the feeling that anyone who disagrees is a redneck. But societies around the world-maybe all of them-- have disagreed with this allegedly obvious idea for thousands of years because they never concluded that an arrangement built on same-sex love qualifies as a real marriage. Polls show that tolerance and respect for gays are climbing much more rapidly than approval of gay marriage, indicating for a considerable number of Americans, the major sticking point is not bigotry, but a liberal-conservative difference on the meaning of marriage.

"Samuel Alito is out of the mainstream" was one of the strangest of recent liberal memes, relentlessly spread by the media, all with little effect. As U.C.L.A. law professor Eugene Volokh wrote, Alito's views "are majority views, by a wide margin". Legal columnist Stuart Taylor Jr., a centrist and no fan of President Bush, called attention to the large role of reporters in spreading the meme. He showed in some detail that "systematic slanting, conscious or unconscious " in many mainstream press reports "helped fuel a disingenuous campaign by liberal groups and senators to caricature Alito as a conservative ideologue”.

Even worse was the "racist response to Katrina" meme. Mostly this was aimed at George Bush, who botched the crisis badly, though not on any racial basis. The idea was to peel away growing Republican support among blacks by playing the race card. It worked. The rapid spread of the meme was the reason why a bland one-liner by entertainer Kanye West-- "George Bush doesn't care about black people"-- unexpectedly became a famous quote. And there was a broader campaign to indict whites in general, who were busy sending in most of the $1 billion in voluntary contributions to Katrina victims, for failing to care about the suffering of New Orleans blacks.

This meme was wildly promoted by the mainstream media, but ultimately it failed, as Democratic pollster Celinda Lake made clear in a recent speech. She said, "It is certainly true that people very quickly got off any analysis that...the patterns of Katrina were due to race”. One reason was that people were pointing to New Orlean's corruption and the city's incompetent black mayor as explanations for much of the post-Katrina mess. Another factor was that the power structure in this black-run city signed off on an explicit arrangement to abandon 100,000 poor residents in case of disaster. That was the city's plan and it worked. No wonder the racism meme faded. “Far from Katrina promoting very much," Lake said, "if anything Katrina is backfiring a little bit". That happens now and then to memes that the public can figure out aren't true.


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1 posted on 02/20/2006 11:52:59 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

Having finally seen it last night, I have to say... it's an interesting movie, if nothing else. And it does show how the affair hurts the families. But I did end up feeling sorry for the both of them. Actually, for everyone involved. I don't really understand what made them fall for each other, but the emotion was portrayed pretty effectively.


2 posted on 02/20/2006 11:56:49 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: LdSentinal

According to BoxOfficeMojo.com, this movie was the 33rd highest grossing movie among those which came out in the USA in 2005 (counting gross dometic receipts up until today).

Rank Movie Title (click to view) Studio Total Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Open Close
1 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Fox $380,270,577 3,663 $108,435,841 3,661 5/19 10/20
2 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $287,265,347 3,858 $102,685,961 3,858 11/18 -
3 The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe BV $287,021,000 3,853 $65,556,312 3,616 12/9 -
4 War of the Worlds Par. $234,280,354 3,910 $64,878,725 3,908 6/29 11/22
5 King Kong Uni. $216,328,000 3,627 $50,130,145 3,568 12/14 -
6 Wedding Crashers NL $209,255,921 3,131 $33,900,720 2,925 7/15 -
7 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory WB $206,459,076 3,790 $56,178,450 3,770 7/15 12/8
8 Batman Begins WB $205,343,774 3,858 $48,745,440 3,858 6/15 10/30
9 Madagascar DW $193,595,521 4,142 $47,224,594 4,131 5/27 10/13
10 Mr. & Mrs. Smith Fox $186,336,279 3,451 $50,342,878 3,424 6/10 12/15
11 Hitch Sony $179,495,555 3,575 $43,142,214 3,575 2/11 7/21
12 The Longest Yard Par. $158,119,460 3,654 $47,606,480 3,634 5/27 10/6
13 Fantastic Four Fox $154,696,080 3,619 $56,061,504 3,602 7/8 12/29
14 Chicken Little BV $134,029,979 3,658 $40,049,778 3,654 11/4 -
15 Robots Fox $128,200,012 3,776 $36,045,301 3,776 3/11 9/5
16 Walk the Line Fox $116,354,000 3,160 $22,347,341 2,961 11/18 -
17 The Pacifier BV $113,086,868 3,181 $30,552,694 3,131 3/4 7/14
18 Fun with Dick and Jane Sony $109,734,987 3,239 $14,383,515 3,056 12/21 -
19 The 40-Year-Old Virgin Uni. $109,449,237 3,006 $21,422,815 2,845 8/19 12/15
20 Flightplan BV $89,691,587 3,424 $24,629,938 3,424 9/23 -
21 Saw II Lions $87,039,965 2,949 $31,725,652 2,949 10/28 1/5
22 Monster-in-Law NL $82,931,301 3,424 $23,105,133 3,424 5/13 9/5
23 Are We There Yet? Sony $82,674,398 2,810 $18,575,214 2,709 1/21 6/16
24 Cheaper by the Dozen 2 Fox $80,909,834 3,211 $9,309,387 3,175 12/21 -
25 The Dukes of Hazzard WB $80,270,227 3,785 $30,675,314 3,785 8/5 10/30
26 March of the Penguins WIP $77,437,223 2,506 $137,492 4 6/24 12/1
27 The Ring Two DW $76,231,249 3,341 $35,065,237 3,332 3/18 6/16
28 Constantine WB $75,976,178 3,006 $29,769,098 3,006 2/18 6/16
29 The Exorcism of Emily Rose SGem $75,072,454 3,045 $30,054,300 2,981 9/9 11/6
30 Four Brothers Par. $74,494,381 2,649 $21,176,925 2,533 8/12 -
31 Sin City Dim. $74,103,820 3,230 $29,120,273 3,230 4/1 8/11
32 The Interpreter Uni. $72,708,161 2,814 $22,822,455 2,758 4/22 7/28
33 Brokeback Mountain Focus $72,038,000 2,089 $547,425 5 12/9 -


3 posted on 02/20/2006 11:57:14 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: LdSentinal
Save a horse, ride a cowboy.

Or is it sheep boy?

4 posted on 02/20/2006 11:57:31 AM PST by BIGZ
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To: LdSentinal
"Even worse was the "racist response to Katrina" meme. Mostly this was aimed at George Bush, who botched the crisis badly, though not on any racial basis."

This is horse poop: when does this boob think George Bush was elected mayor of New Orleans, or even governor of Louisiana?

But it's much easier to try to pin things like this on George Bush than on to say that a couple Dimocrats are absolute incompetents.

5 posted on 02/20/2006 11:58:37 AM PST by Redbob (I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ride in a car with Teddy Kennedy!)
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To: wizardoz

Egads, can't believe you paid good money to see it. Not only that, but to give Hollyweird funds to make more of the kind.

I know no one who's seen it nor plans to.


6 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:22 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: LdSentinal
So I guess that not liking a movie may be considered "racist" and "bigotry" by the left?
7 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:58 AM PST by Dallas59 ((“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party))
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To: LdSentinal

I live in a blue state and I don't know anyone who has seen it or has talked about wanting to see it. I've heard plenty about it, but it's all MSM hype.


8 posted on 02/20/2006 11:59:59 AM PST by kcbc2001
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To: LdSentinal

IOW the leftists suffer from groupthink mentality.


9 posted on 02/20/2006 12:02:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Redbob
"Mostly this was aimed at George Bush, who botched the crisis badly,"


LOL ~ It looks like ol' John Leo isn't above a little 'meme marketing' of his own.

10 posted on 02/20/2006 12:04:00 PM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: wizardoz

Why would you pay money to support such a blatent homosexual porn propaganda piece?


11 posted on 02/20/2006 12:04:24 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Beat by The Dukes of Hazzard? That's gotta hurt!

Although... Jessica Simpson in short shorts or gay shepherds kissing? Not much of a decision after all... even for a straight woman.

12 posted on 02/20/2006 12:05:25 PM PST by Chanticleer (May you be gruntled and combobulated in 2006.)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
The Chronicals of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe made about four times as much as Brokeback Mountain.

*** Thumbing my nose at The Left ***

13 posted on 02/20/2006 12:05:36 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: LdSentinal
I believe the more that the left tries to use people like Moore and Soros to promote homosexuality and the relaxing of moral values, the more that the red state type people will did their heels in to resist.
14 posted on 02/20/2006 12:06:32 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: wizardoz

Having finally seen it last night




Lose a bet?


15 posted on 02/20/2006 12:06:57 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

So, nine million people saw this film. Big deal.


16 posted on 02/20/2006 12:07:27 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: LdSentinal

Brokedick Mountain?

Haven't seen it.


17 posted on 02/20/2006 12:08:46 PM PST by ryan71
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To: VeritatisSplendor

I've seen most of the movies in the top ten but virtually none in the bottom twenty with the exception of "The Interpreter" with Nicole Kidman. Terrific movie. The camera really loves her.


18 posted on 02/20/2006 12:10:13 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: LdSentinal

OK, so it's us red-staters fault we didn't flock in hordes to the local screens to plunk down $10 to support this pile of horrid unimaginable trash. This movie doesn't look like a chick flick, let alone a date flick, unless your living in a Frisco bath house.


19 posted on 02/20/2006 12:10:55 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Redbob
This is horse poop: when does this boob think George Bush was elected mayor of New Orleans, or even governor of Louisiana?

With 20/20 hindsight, President Bush was too nice of man when dealing with the Louisiana idiots. He should have made it quite clear before Katrina hit (when it looked like it would still be a category 5 hurricane at landfall) that the Louisiana and New Orleans were not capable of handling the disaster and they needed federal assistance including the army right away. And if they refused his "offer", he was going to hang them out to dry including releasing the tape of the phone call where he made the offer.

20 posted on 02/20/2006 12:11:12 PM PST by KarlInOhio (In this year's White House play, Henry VI part II, VP Cheney got the role of Dick the Butcher.)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
33rd highest grossing movie among those which came out in the USA in 200

uh, do you mean this list is of movies liked by those 'that came out' (of the closet?) or is of movies that 'came out' (released) ... big difference!!! ;-)

21 posted on 02/20/2006 12:11:23 PM PST by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: ryan71

Pokebutt Mountin'?

Haven't seen it.


22 posted on 02/20/2006 12:11:47 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: satchmodog9
So, nine million people saw this film. Big deal.

Or a million saw it nine times to boost the numbers to make it look mainstream.

23 posted on 02/20/2006 12:12:29 PM PST by KarlInOhio (In this year's White House play, Henry VI part II, VP Cheney got the role of Dick the Butcher.)
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To: ryan71

I've been calling it Broke@ss Mountain but Brokedick works, too.


24 posted on 02/20/2006 12:13:50 PM PST by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: Redbob

You missed the point, the "racist response" is just the msm'S talking points (Or Memes) the author refers to then as.


25 posted on 02/20/2006 12:13:56 PM PST by UB355
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To: KarlInOhio

I bet they lost money because they had to pay for more publicity


26 posted on 02/20/2006 12:14:18 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I wonder what OTHER sex fetishes the hollyweird types want to make but can't jussssst make it jusssst yet.


27 posted on 02/20/2006 12:14:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: satchmodog9
So, nine million people saw this film. Big deal.

In a country of about 200 million Christians, 9 million is pretty low. I suspect 1 million people couldn't get enough of that rotgut they saw it 9 times.

28 posted on 02/20/2006 12:14:58 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: LdSentinal
Here's a fun, and subversive hobby for all FReepers: Make the term and concept of "Meme" a mainstream part of the American Lexicon. Pattern Recognition is a dangerous thing to a propagandist.
29 posted on 02/20/2006 12:18:04 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: LdSentinal
Something less than 8 million people have seen Bareback Cowboys, hardly a political juggernaut in a country of over 280 million people, where more than 80 million vote in national elections, especially when one considers that some significant percentage of those 8 million undoubtedly left the theatre either unmoved by or completely opposed to the film's message.

The only Brokeback Mountain juggernaut is in the minds of the hypsters and hucksters in Hollywood and the MSM.

30 posted on 02/20/2006 12:18:15 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
26 March of the Penguins WIP $77,437,223 2,506 $137,492 4 6/24 12/1

33 Brokeback Mountain Focus $72,038,000 2,089 $547,425 5 12/9 -

Well, that's refreshing:  a movie about peacocks can't beat a movie about penguins.

31 posted on 02/20/2006 12:18:56 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: BigSkyFreeper

9 million out of 300 million in the USA?

That really deflates the 10% number, AGAIN. If anything I submit it shows there are even FEWER homsexuals than 2%.

Another "meme" shot down.


32 posted on 02/20/2006 12:19:05 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Dallas59
"So I guess that not liking a movie may be considered "racist" and "bigotry" by the left?"

Not only not liking, but even not seeing it, is considered bigotry by the left. Awful lot of bigots in this country huh?

33 posted on 02/20/2006 12:19:05 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: LdSentinal

Great post. Thanks.


34 posted on 02/20/2006 12:19:53 PM PST by GOPJ (Quisling editors show all the nobility of crack whores over cartoon publication.)
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To: wizardoz
it does show how the affair hurts the families.

Maybe this film should have been marketed as a "pro-family values" film.

35 posted on 02/20/2006 12:21:50 PM PST by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: libs_kma

Don't worry, the left is going to MANDATE all college freshmen MUST see it.

In fact it will win the oscar so it can be FORCED upon film studies classes.

GLSEN will mandate it be included in high school classes.

Eventually they will be showing it on saturday morning cartoon hours to "educate children."

I also predict pedophiles will use it to recruite new victims.


36 posted on 02/20/2006 12:21:59 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
There is a growing trend. Even that boring old bass turd Willie Nelson is trying to target red staters with an album that seeks to put this movie to song. As I said over there, "I find his brand of boring old cowboy croonin' horse***t annoying".
37 posted on 02/20/2006 12:22:59 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: mtbopfuyn

My curiosity finally got the best of me.


38 posted on 02/20/2006 12:23:43 PM PST by wizardoz
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To: mtbopfuyn
"I know no one who's seen it nor plans to."

not only do I not plan on seeing it, but I also nixed the idea of taking my girls to the movies last weekend because every theatre was screening it. The only way that Hollyweird will ever get any message is if we stop paying them.

39 posted on 02/20/2006 12:24:00 PM PST by chief_bigfoot ("isn't THAT amazing?" - Ron Popiel)
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To: LdSentinal

Brokebutt mountain is disgusting.


40 posted on 02/20/2006 12:24:40 PM PST by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: LdSentinal

My prediction: When it comes out at Blockbuster they will order tons of them to meet the "high demand", or will be pressured to anyway, and they will be all left on the shelf because no one wants to see it.


41 posted on 02/20/2006 12:24:44 PM PST by gop4lyf
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Just proof that willie nelson is still smoking too much pot and sombody has pictures of him with the result.


42 posted on 02/20/2006 12:26:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: kcbc2001

Me too, don't know a single soul who has seen it


43 posted on 02/20/2006 12:26:13 PM PST by mel
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To: longtermmemmory

"To: BigSkyFreeper

9 million out of 300 million in the USA?

That really deflates the 10% number, AGAIN. If anything I submit it shows there are even FEWER homsexuals than 2%.

Another "meme" shot down."

interesting..... maybe that should be brought up on a talk show or an interview somewhere.


44 posted on 02/20/2006 12:27:42 PM PST by gop4lyf
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To: LdSentinal

Liberal democrats and their stenographers ( MSM reporters ) push endless crap ... and yeah, it's all starting to backfire. Odd how they've got the courage to stand up to everyday Americans, but not enough to print a cartoon critical of Radical Muslims.


46 posted on 02/20/2006 12:32:09 PM PST by GOPJ (Quisling editors show all the nobility of crack whores over cartoon publication.)
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To: LdSentinal

The liberals have deluded themselves into thinking that Farenheit 911 was great and we all saw it in theaters and bought the video.


47 posted on 02/20/2006 12:32:55 PM PST by passionfruit ("...I think the left wing is turning into a cult... If you disagree you're a traitor")
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To: libs_kma
At a recent housewarming party, I was asked if I had seen Brokeback Mountain yet. I said I had no desire to see that movie. This resulted in one lefty acquaintance disgustedly blurting out, "YOU DON'T??" as if not wanting to see that movie was equivalent to lynching a homosexual. All of the liberals are flocking to see it because they need to keep up the facade that gay romance films are mainstream.

Given any other movie, nobody is going to bat an eyelash if you say you don't want to see it. I don't care that this movie is out there, but it pisses me off that not wanting to see it is equated with bigotry.

48 posted on 02/20/2006 12:35:35 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: longtermmemmory

If your 2% is correct, and I believe it is, demonstrates that homosexuality is not exactly mainstream in this country. Despite the best efforts of the Hollyweird elite to produce such utter nonsense.


49 posted on 02/20/2006 12:36:18 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: LdSentinal

Liberals delude themselves on a great many things. It is because they do not value 'truth'.


50 posted on 02/20/2006 12:36:21 PM PST by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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