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1 posted on 02/21/2006 7:02:37 AM PST by AZRepublican
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To: AZRepublican

You can lead a horse to water....


2 posted on 02/21/2006 7:11:08 AM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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Congress gave the Social Security Administration $500 million primarily to identify and enroll them.

"It's probably the best thing about Medicare Part D, except that most people don't know about it or don't know how to apply for it or are not comfortable or capable of applying."

I think I figured out the problem...

3 posted on 02/21/2006 7:15:09 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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"....The group sandwiched in between -- those earning too much for Medicaid but less than $19,000 -- qualify for coverage with no premiums, no deductibles and co-payments of less than $5."

I can assure you that this is a false statement if it is (as it appears) supposed to be a representation of Medicare Part D Rx plan.......there is a monthly premium, a 250 deductible, and a 2250 dollar limit on the actual discount which is tabulated at absolute top-dollar retail for the purpose of reaching the 2250.


4 posted on 02/21/2006 7:16:59 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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My girlfriends Grandparents said they went on the Part D plan and the cost of their medications has increased dramatically. I'll need to remind them that they don't have to use Part D, unless you're stuck on it once you start.

I knew this was a bad plan from the beginning.


7 posted on 02/21/2006 7:23:56 AM PST by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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Republican President+Republican Congress=New Entitlement Program

New math.


9 posted on 02/21/2006 7:28:05 AM PST by RWE
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I can understand why.

I joined. What a nightmare, not only for me, but for my Doctor and the Pharmacy.

There are 2 of the five meds that I have to take everyday that the drug plan doesn't want to cover, and they don't have a genetic brand, so my doctor has to call in every month to clear these meds for me. Then when I go to the Pharmacy to have them filled, they have to call the med plan and make sure that my doctor has been given approval to prescribe these 2 meds for me.

The drug plans are all the same, there are meds they will cover, there are meds they won't, there are meds that they offer genetic brands for and some they have to have the Doctor call in to get approval.

Its the worst thing I have ever seen, along the lines of Missus Clinton's nightmare, and I'm not to sure if her and whoever thought up this nightmare didn't plan this thing.
16 posted on 02/21/2006 7:34:56 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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GOOD! We will save money after all!

LLS
19 posted on 02/21/2006 7:36:48 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: AZRepublican

Bump for later.


28 posted on 02/21/2006 8:01:03 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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I take 10mg of Toprol daily, I have Medicare Part A and Part B plus I am covered by my wife's health plan.

The annual information letter from the plan advised us that I should not sign up as it would save me no money over the 50% discount already in the plan.

There may be many like us.


29 posted on 02/21/2006 8:15:32 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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This is a horrible scam, perpetrated upon poor old people by the drug companies in collusion with an out of control government who cares not a wit about its citizens.

I checked the AARP site and checked 4 medications and the estimated cost was in excess of $3,068 per year.

That's got to be near the retail cost!

Thank God I can get them for $336 because of VA eligability.

30 posted on 02/21/2006 8:21:36 AM PST by FixitGuy
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"The group sandwiched in between -- those earning too much for Medicaid but less than $19,000 -- qualify for coverage with no premiums, no deductibles and co-payments of less than $5."

Nothing like a newspaper printing a flat out lie.

It varies in every state regarding the amount you can earn without paying premiums.

The states also get to set the price of the premiums you pay.
Michigan (with its Communist Governor) is likely the worst state in taxing the seniors for this crap plan.
33 posted on 02/21/2006 9:06:05 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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The person who wrote this article needs to actually take a look at Medicare Part D before writing some of this tripe.

Another complicating factor is the lack of information from current providers and sources of medications. I made some inquiries for an elderly family member who currently receives medications through pharmaceutical companies' charitable programs. These companies were unsure how their programs would be affected. It's hard to run the numbers when you can't get any to work with.

It seems a lot of people here are "blaming the victims" for this nightmare government program.


36 posted on 02/21/2006 2:05:41 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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How to cut a program...

Make all the old folks stand in line out in the cold and bury them in complicated forms that often say one thing on one page and the exact opposite on another page deeper into the morass.

No one completes an application..no one qualifies...no need for the program...cut the sucker...

Thats pretty much how the Clinton's cut the VA programs for many disabled Vets

42 posted on 02/22/2006 11:02:15 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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If anyone out there has a strong opinion that opposes this would you please share it? My father-in-law asked me to figure out what they should do. After reading countless pages of insurance-speak and government-speak and realizing both sides were exaggerating the benefits of their point of view while ignoring the negatives, but advice to my father-in-law was to stay put. They have medicare and a Blue Cross Supplement with a decent drug prescription plan. From what I understand, once you go in to the gov't plan you can never go back. But if you have your own plan you can stay there as long as you want and just pay a penalty for joining the government plan late should you change your mind. In the vein of never buying a car on it's first model year cause the kinks aren't worked out yet, I couldn't see a reason for the parents-in-law to switch. Anyone who believes differently, PLEASE give me your opinion!! (Thanks!)


43 posted on 02/22/2006 1:39:33 PM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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