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Illegal aliens robbed trying to cross into U.S.
Yuma Daily Sun ^ | Feb 21, 2006 | STAFF REPORTS

Posted on 02/22/2006 9:23:41 AM PST by sean327

Illegal aliens robbed trying to cross into U.S.

FROM STAFF REPORTS Feb 21, 2006, 9:23 pm

Forty-four illegal aliens were robbed twice Tuesday morning, first on their way into the United States and again once they crossed the border.

The Yuma County Sheriff's Office responded at 8 a.m. to County 18-1/2 Street and the Colorado River near Gadsden for the group who had been apprehended by the Border Patrol. Those in the group said they had been robbed in Mexico and then robbed again after they crossed the border.

"I don't know of anything they could have had left," said YCSO Capt. Eben Bratcher.

YCSO said the second robbery occurred just across the border. The illegal aliens were lined up and searched at gunpoint by four unknown suspects. The suspects were looking for wallets and any other items of value, YCSO said.

"It was the same modus operandi (as previous robberies)," Bratcher said. "They wait for them, they rob them and then they run back across the border."

Bratcher said the Sheriff's Office learns of only a fraction of the total number of these robberies. He said the agency is only notified when illegal aliens are apprehended by Border Patrol, as they were in this case, and then say they were robbed.

"How many are occurring and go unreported?" Bratcher said. "I'm sure that's a significant number. If you are here illegally, the last thing you are going to do if you get robbed is call the cops."

YCSO said none of the victims were injured, and all were being sent back to Mexico by Border Patrol. Bratcher said the double robbery showed there was clearly more than one group attempting to rob illegal aliens crossing the border.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: borderissues; crime; illegalailiens; illegalaliens; mexico; narcoterrorists; terrorism
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Yesterday I posted a story about a group of 129 illegals caught near Wellton Az. These clowns were caught near Gadsden Az. Lately it seems the Border Patrol is catching bigger groups. It may be the mad rush to beat the upcomming summer heat, but these guys are crossing in larger groups than before.
1 posted on 02/22/2006 9:23:45 AM PST by sean327
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To: sean327

Hmm, this might be a good idea. Allow US residents to take whatever they want from any illegals entering the states.


2 posted on 02/22/2006 9:25:33 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Jack Bauer: "By the time I'm finished with you you're going to wish you felt this good again".)
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To: sean327

Forty-four illegal aliens were robbed twice Tuesday morning, first on their way into the United States and again once they crossed the border.




Well ya know how to keep this from happening to you right?


Right?


3 posted on 02/22/2006 9:26:00 AM PST by trubluolyguy (I don't hate Arabs. But I wouldn't trust a muzzie as far as I could throw Ted Kennedy.)
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To: sean327

Why should we believe this? Are they asking for restitution?


5 posted on 02/22/2006 9:27:48 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: sean327

MSM Frontline: Peaceful Immigrants ROBBED by Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Right-wing, Christian Minute-Men!
(Statue of Liberty cries out, "how shameful!")

</sarc>


6 posted on 02/22/2006 9:29:38 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: sean327
If they had not committed a crime, then they would not have become victims of a crime.

No tears here.
7 posted on 02/22/2006 9:29:51 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: sean327

For a minute I thought this was satire. Unfortunately, it's true. Dang illegals...they sometimes seem to get more rights than true American citizens.


8 posted on 02/22/2006 9:32:21 AM PST by ChandyB71
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To: sean327

ever read the book 'Lines And Shadows' by Joseph Wambaugh? i wonder if there isn't a way to start that program up again, but maybe refine it...a lot! lol


9 posted on 02/22/2006 9:33:50 AM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: trubluolyguy
Well ya know how to keep this from happening to you right?

Requiring all illegals to have sex with Madeline Albright?

10 posted on 02/22/2006 9:38:31 AM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: sean327

Forgive me if I don't have much sympathy for criminals who fall victim to crime.


11 posted on 02/22/2006 9:40:11 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: sean327

One of the minor reasons I am against illegal immigration is because it sets up the illegal aliens for exploitation by local or imported criminals and low life business owners who don't pay them because the illegals have no legal recourse against them. This point seems to be overlooked by organizations that claim to be for the illegals 'rights'.


12 posted on 02/22/2006 9:40:11 AM PST by magslinger (Cry Havoc and let slip the yobos of war!)
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To: sean327

" It may be the mad rush to beat the upcomming summer heat, but these guys are crossing in larger groups than before."


The federal government isn't exactly sending strong signals that this sort of behavior won't be tolerated.


13 posted on 02/22/2006 9:40:45 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: sean327

Boo freakin hoo.


14 posted on 02/22/2006 9:43:29 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth!")
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To: sean327

aaawwwwww....

Illegals fall victim to other criminals, hmmmm...


15 posted on 02/22/2006 9:45:26 AM PST by Redbob
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To: zarf

Requiring all illegals to have sex with Madeline Albright




Nope. Requiring El Presidente to do his friggin' job or give it up to someone who will.


16 posted on 02/22/2006 9:46:06 AM PST by trubluolyguy (I don't hate Arabs. But I wouldn't trust a muzzie as far as I could throw Ted Kennedy.)
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To: sean327
but these guys are crossing in larger groups than before.

Not really, it just seems that way because of the news reporting.

We catch thousands of illegals crossing the AZ/Mex border each and every day and each and every day, we catch groups over 100. The news, just does not report on each day.

17 posted on 02/22/2006 9:46:43 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: sean327

Heck, I'm all for it. Rob the 'immigrants' before they get to rob Americans.

I'm waiting for the day when that headline reads "US Marines Shoot Illegal Aliens Trying to Cross into US".

Much more satisfying.


18 posted on 02/22/2006 9:47:55 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: sean327
"How many are occurring and go unreported?" Bratcher said. "I'm sure that's a significant number. If you are here illegally, the last thing you are going to do if you get robbed is call the cops."

Oh no! People breaking the law meet up with other people breaking the law and it goes unreported. How awful!

19 posted on 02/22/2006 9:48:13 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: ferri

I was thinking about Wambaugh's "Lines And Shadows" as I read the initial post, ferri.


One of Wambaugh's better Non-Fiction books.

The LA Cops won't touch BARF again, due to Political Correctness. Better to use an Army Guard Unit to surround and Force March their a**es back across the border.

Jack.


20 posted on 02/22/2006 10:02:02 AM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: sean327

Probably the only way to get cops on the border...rob the illegals.


21 posted on 02/22/2006 10:05:04 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Man, it seems like I'm taking a beating for posting this. I posted this so people could see the daily flood of illegals crossing the border near my home in Yuma. I have no sympathy for these guys at all. They cross illegaly, they take the risk of croaking in the desert, or getting robbed. Personaly I think it's a waste of time and resources for the Yuma County Sherrifs Office to be investigating a robbery that took place feet from the border on people who have no bussines being here in the first place.


22 posted on 02/22/2006 10:06:25 AM PST by sean327
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To: Jack Deth
great minds??? lol

good book AND scary! more people should read it to see this is nothing new...

no, the LAPD would be crazy to ever try BARF again. too bad, it was a GOOD idea, but you are also right, i have been wondering why there aren't National Guard as well as snipers out there...

23 posted on 02/22/2006 10:07:22 AM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: sean327

And who were they robbed by? Other illegals?


24 posted on 02/22/2006 10:14:20 AM PST by aquila48
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To: sean327
Man, it seems like I'm taking a beating for posting this.

Not from me you're not. I was just being sarcastic but it wasn't directed towards you, but at the article. Any sympathy I might have had for illegals is long gone.

I posted this so people could see the daily flood of illegals crossing the border near my home in Yuma.

I'm not as close to the border as you are (I'm in L.A.) You have my sympathies when it comes to dealing with illegal aliens.

25 posted on 02/22/2006 10:14:21 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: sean327
As others have noted, many are trying to get into the US to be here when the amnesty program starts. Every time we suggest amnesty, it's like Congress proposing a gun ban. Everyone tries to get things lined up for the change.

On the crime thing, illegals are big targets for criminals. First, they keep all their cash on them, at least until they wire it back to Mexico. Second, they tend to deal with other people who break the law. Third, crooks know they're not going to complain to the police. Fourth, if a crook kills them, there won't be any relatives at the police department demanding investigation. Frequently, their families never find out what happens to them. They just never come home. There are a lot of illegals buried in unmarked pauper's graves in Texas.

26 posted on 02/22/2006 10:16:57 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: sean327
Those in the group said they had been robbed in Mexico and then robbed again after they crossed the border.

Awwwwwww, don't worry Juan and Julio. After you're DEPORTED back to Mexico you can call the Mexican cops and get robbed a third time.

27 posted on 02/22/2006 10:17:32 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Marine Inspector

You nailed it. When one decides to become a criminal, he assumes the risks that go along with his criminal activity. These criminals were lucky that’s all that happened to them.


28 posted on 02/22/2006 10:19:19 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: sean327

It isn't you, personally. Just that, if you're the one to post the thread,you'll typically be the one to get the most replies, so you'll see most everyone's take on the story you posted. Posters are replying to the story, but they're posting the reply to you, so it can feel alot like they're crashing on you when they're really not. As long as posting the thread isn't the ONLY place on FR where your screen name appears, you'll be fine.

ZOT happens, but usually only to "drive-by" posters and obvious purveyors of vapid leftspeak.

Rock on.


29 posted on 02/22/2006 10:20:31 AM PST by HKMk23 (Tengo una remera del Che y no se por que.)
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To: sean327

This can't be happening. Aren't guns basically illegal in Mexico?

If the criminals have guns they are breaking the law in Mexico, and again when they cross the border in the US with them.

I think the guns should be made "illegaler". That will fix the problem.

(Do I really need the sarcasm tag?)


30 posted on 02/22/2006 10:21:13 AM PST by Disambiguator (Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
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To: sean327

Wetbacks robbed

DILLIGAF

I don't. If they would have stayed home it wouldn't have happened. I'm much more concerned about them coming here to rob us.


31 posted on 02/22/2006 10:28:48 AM PST by jjones9853
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To: Marine Inspector
If they had not committed a crime, then they would not have become victims of a crime. . . . No tears here.

Granted, the illegals aliens were breaking the law.

However, those who would rob them at gunpoint would gladly rob you or me. (Especially since you and I probably have more to take.) Gaining control of the border means taking action against all types of illegal activity, regardless of the identity of the victims.

32 posted on 02/22/2006 10:37:27 AM PST by Logophile
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To: sean327
"It was the same modus operandi (as previous robberies)," Bratcher said. "They wait for them, they rob them and then they run back across the border."

: Mexico's "border patrol".

33 posted on 02/22/2006 10:43:20 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Jeremiah2911

hehehehe...


34 posted on 02/22/2006 10:44:50 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: sean327

I don't think you're "taking a beating..."

People are noticably sarcastic because of the high degree of both frustration and obviousness in the issues here. Thus, there's more venting and irony on the thread than anything else, but it's not directed toward YOU, just the issues...


35 posted on 02/22/2006 10:50:00 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: sean327

"Forty-four illegal aliens were robbed twice Tuesday morning, first on their way into the United States and again once they crossed the border."

- Boohoo


36 posted on 02/22/2006 10:56:11 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: sean327

Bet the petty thugs dont rob any narco terrorists, their drug smugglers,Federales,or al Qaida on our side of the border...

Just the poorest of the poor...


37 posted on 02/22/2006 11:23:54 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: aquila48
And who were they robbed by? Other illegals?

That's what they apparently suspect.

"It was the same modus operandi (as previous robberies)," Bratcher said. "They wait for them, they rob them and then they run back across the border."

38 posted on 02/22/2006 11:35:58 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: magslinger

You are right. Illegal aliens unless they are lucky or really smart, streetwise or otherwise are virtual slaves. Employers, landlords, and others treat them however they want to- knowing they can't/won't report them to authorities.

There are many reasons I am against illegal entry into this country:

1. Absolute security of the border is necessary to keep out terrorists, and dangerous criminals. Some of the illegal crossers may be terrorists, or dangerous criminals there is no way to know.

2. Criminal activity is increased in general by illegal entry. Illegals often smuggle in drugs or commit other crimes in order to pay the coyote who brought them in. All of the border problems are related, it is a vicious network.

3. Burden on our legal, medical, educational, and social system. People who enter illegally are "out of the system" which means there is no, or not enough funding available to cover the cost of their medical care, education for their children, or any of the other services they may require while they are here.

4. Most illegals compete with our blue collar laborers and our children for entry level jobs. It is an unfair competition because they will work for less money, and poor or unsage working conditions. This stagnates wages and degrades workplace conditions in the fields they enter in large numbers, like agriculture, construction, and service jobs. Even in jobs that pay the same, if it is cash under the table, the employer will give preference to the illegal to save the payroll burden. If they are on a payroll the employer knows they will put up with more on the job. This gives illegals an unfair advantage over our own workers.

5. In my opinion the system of hiring illegals is similiar to slavery. They are cheated and mistreated by many because they can't go to the authorities. I am against slavery, and the mistreatment of humans I see with the illegal alien situation.

6. I think illegal entry into this country should be stopped, because it is illegal. If we choose to enforce certain laws and not others, it is simply not fair. Allowing illegal entries destroys the sovereignty of our nation. We sure can't waltz into Mexico or any other country illegally and get a job, put our kids in school, use their social programs. They simply don't allow it and neither should we.


39 posted on 02/22/2006 11:38:57 AM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: sean327

Thank you for posting this, I am sorry you feel you are taking a beating for it. I think most are posting to the article and not so much personally to you.

You are right in posting this type of article, articles like this bring attention to the many problems on the border, which is the only way people will become concerned enough to work towards a solution. For too long those of us on the border have understood the issues, but because of lack of reporting, those away from the border did not know the truth or understand how it impacts them.

The article you posted also highlights how other criminal activity is related to illegal crossing. I have little doubt if an American wandered near those bandits waiting to rob the illegals, they very well could become victims of the criminals who are there to prey on the illegals. Most criminals of this type are not too selective when a good target appears.

Hang in there, word is getting out, and understanding of the issues is spreading. That is progress in the right direction. Keep the faith, and keep posting articles that bring attention to the border problems.


40 posted on 02/22/2006 11:51:21 AM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Logophile
However, those who would rob them at gunpoint would gladly rob you or me.

Not likely. The perps went after the illegals, because they were a unarmed and isolated. Easy targets.

I'm armed and not an easy target. The perps would have avoided me.

41 posted on 02/22/2006 11:57:51 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: sean327
Man, it seems like I'm taking a beating for posting this.

Don't sweat it. The comments are not directed at you personally; they are directed at the article.

42 posted on 02/22/2006 11:59:48 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Tammy8

Exactly right. I did say that exploitation of illegals was one minor reason. A complete list would have been just like yours, with the order changed a little. I don't see that you missed a thing. My order would have been 6,1,3,2,4,5.


43 posted on 02/22/2006 12:10:02 PM PST by magslinger (Cry Havoc and let slip the yobos of war!)
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To: magslinger

I agree that #6 should be at the top- in fact if all the other situations didn't exist I would still be against illegal entry, so that should put it at the top.

I wasn't picking on your post, when I have a little free time I try to get as many facts posted on these threads as I can to make more people aware of all the issues.


44 posted on 02/22/2006 12:21:45 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Marine Inspector
Not likely. The perps went after the illegals, because they were a unarmed and isolated. Easy targets. .... I'm armed and not an easy target. The perps would have avoided me.

Perhaps they would figure out that you are armed, and would therefore seek an easier target. (I would not count on it, however.)

Does that mean that you consider armed robbery not to be a problem, so long as the victims are illegals, unarmed, or isolated?

45 posted on 02/22/2006 12:27:26 PM PST by Logophile
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To: magslinger
it sets up the illegal aliens for exploitation by local or imported criminals and low life business owners who don't pay them because the illegals have no legal recourse against them.

We had a local company that got raided periodically by the INS. It stopped after someone wrote the paper about how the raids always occurred the day before payday.

46 posted on 02/22/2006 12:30:53 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Tammy8

I didn't feel picked on, I just wanted to make clear that reason was one of many. I shouldn't have bothered, your well written and cogent list indicates that your reading comprehension is excellent as well.
Some other FReepers aren't quite as perceptive. With them you need to spell it all out.


47 posted on 02/22/2006 12:56:32 PM PST by magslinger (Cry Havoc and let slip the yobos of war!)
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To: aimhigh
We had a local company that got raided periodically by the INS. It stopped after someone wrote the paper about how the raids always occurred the day before payday.

The lowlife owner deserves a point for thinking of that, and about negative ten million points for actually tipping off the INS just before payday.

My reason for considering the ripping off of illegals as a reason to be against illegal immigration came from a former coworker. His previous owner had gotten used to just not paying for that last week of the season, and apparently forgot my coworker was a citizen and could do something about it.

Happily, the business owner's mistake ended up costing him a lot more.

48 posted on 02/22/2006 1:09:57 PM PST by magslinger (Cry Havoc and let slip the yobos of war!)
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To: sean327

"Illegal aliens robbed trying to rob the U.S."


There, fixed it.


49 posted on 02/22/2006 1:18:16 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad
" 'Illegal aliens robbed trying to rob the U.S.'


There, fixed it."

Notice that the lame-stream media doesn't get upset when the taxpayer gets robbed over and over again, paying for medical help, education and the like for illegals.

Not a problem. Bend over suckers.
50 posted on 02/22/2006 2:38:34 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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