Skip to comments.A non-running computer produces fewer errors
Posted on 02/23/2006 8:50:48 AM PST by edcoil
Quantum computer works best switched off
Even for the crazy world of quantum mechanics, this one is twisted. A quantum computer program has produced an answer without actually running.
The idea behind the feat, first proposed in 1998, is to put a quantum computer into a superposition, a state in which it is both running and not running. It is as if you asked Schrödinger's cat to hit "Run".
With the right set-up, the theory suggested, the computer would sometimes get an answer out of the computer even though the program did not run. And now researchers from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have improved on the original design and built a non-running quantum computer that really works.
The new design includes a quantum trick called the Zeno effect. Repeated measurements stop the photon from entering the actual program, but allow its quantum nature to flirt with the program's components - so it can become gradually altered even though it never actually passes through.
"It is very bizarre that you know your computer has not run but you also know what the answer is," says team member Onur Hosten.
This scheme could have an advantage over straightforward quantum computing. "A non-running computer produces fewer errors," says Hosten. That sentiment should have technophobes nodding enthusiastically.
Bizarre maybe but I think it's cool.
Think of how great this country would be if we could get Congress to not run!
I don't understand any of this. But, somehow, I'm glad I don't.
I don't understand this. Did the cat turn the computer on or not?
parsy, who demands the possibilty of an answer.
I don't know, the whole article went right over my head.
Yes, that's true.
For completely B.S. definitions of the phrase 'switched off'.
In a constant state, but not really "not running". Big difference. "Not running" would be like pulling the power plug.
Did she believe me?
Well, she might now.
"even though the program did not run"
Seems to have nothing to do with power off or power on - it has to do with a program running.
You are right on. It's running, just at a lower state. If we had better measurements, my guess is that we would say it is "running."
I think I'll try this at work. "If I don't work, I'll produce fewer errors." See how it goes over.
Must be a DU computer.........
Yes and no.
And here is the reason why we need a "none of the above" line on all ballots.
I voted to turn the computer off before it was on
The cat, actually, being dead, voted democrat.
I must be missing something.
"I don't understand this. Did the cat turn the computer on or not?
parsy, who demands the possibilty of an answer."
I demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!
Quantum computing gives me a headache.
But then the whole oil market would crash. The middle east would be sent to abject poverty. They would turn around and...hate us.
I posted this reply before this thread was even started. Took a while to show up here though, quantum anomolies and all..
The cat, actually, being dead, voted democrat
Eureka! You have provided the clue to solve this conundrum. . .to wit:
Dead democrats make less mistakes.
parsy, who is actually now a democrat, but a live, good, one.
Ok. You sound like the kind of fellow who would know the answer to this:
How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?
parsy, the whimsical.
I do not read the story, yet I undertand it.
It could be retaining power from a charge, but the point is
is is actually running, just at a particular state. If it wasn't running at all, how would it know to answer? It doesn't have ESP built in...
You have to love Zero's theory. Take your pencil and drop it on the table. Now, remember that clunk and look at the pencil on the table - that, did not just occur.
The theory is that for it to fall, it has to fall half way and to fall it goes half way again and again never reaching the other surface.
Have fun with that one.
The "none of the above", while not having identifiable face, would turn out just as bad as the rest of them. "Office makes a man" as they used to say about the popes.
And the answer is "42."
No, you're not understanding, this has nothing to do with power states or whether or not the computer itself is running. Instead, the zeno effect is put to use where the photon isn't actually run through the program, but (for lack of a better description) only influenced by the program. We know that an unstable particle can never decay if it's being observed, but the observation does influence the particle and alters it. That's what's at work here.
No. The good bombs will influence your test particle differently than the bad bombs. Zeno principle at work.
No, because in the case where the photon appears at detector C, and the bomb remains unexploded, the photon never actually hit the bomb. The wavefunction takes both paths, but the wavefunction is not the photon. The wavefunction is a description of possible paths (or locations, if you will) for the photon. If the detector at B isn't working, then there's no way the photon could ever end up at C, because the wavefunction that describes its allowed paths would cancel out. The two paths to C end up with the opposite phase by construction.
So we see a photon at C, and we see no explosion. What do we know? Well, we know that the detector at B works, else we couldn't have seen the photon at C. (The photon would necessarily have taken both paths, you see, leading to the wave cancellation at C. But since in the exploding case it can't take both paths, the wave cancellation at C never occurs.) We also know that the photon took the path that didn't go past the bomb, or the bomb would have exploded. So we know that although the bomb didn't explode, it must be good.
[Geek alert: the "photon", as we use the term here to describe the thing that makes the bomb go boom, refers to the position eigenstate of the wavefunction. Careful, though: sometimes the word "photon" can refer to the momentum eigenstate of the wavefunction (as in, "what was the frequency of that photon"), and sometimes it can refer to the wavefunction itself. In this example, though, what matters to the bomb is where the photon goes.]
Yeah, Zeno's Paradox. In order for you to get anywhere, you have to pass through an infinite number of halfway points.. I believe I read somewhere the resolution of this apparent paradox, but I'd have to go look it up again, and besides, I'd never get there..
Totally confused bump.
The Greeks of his day were not comfortable with the concept of infinite series, and produced several fallacies along these lines, with Zeno's being the most well-known.
(Aside: I've enjoyed the explanantions of your time on DU. Cool beans.)
Remember when computer games were written in BASIC? You could extract the primary calculations, find the best answers "offline" and then "win" the game by huge scores/margins (impressing the gorgeous, red-haired, flirty chick at the lab terminal next to you that you hope you can check to see if the cuffs match the collar...)
That, in very simple terms, is what the photon is doing. The program isn't running but the photon is interacting with the primary coding inside the program.
Wrong. It's Quantum Mechanics. The answer must be "1". Just ask Schroedinger...
A little late...
"The new design includes a quantum trick called the Zeno effect. Repeated measurements stop the photon from entering the actual program, but allow its quantum nature to flirt with the program's components - so it can become gradually altered even though it never actually passes through."
I've had several graduate quantum mechanics classes and still don't get this.
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