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With Friends Like This...(Let’s talk about the UAE)
The National Review ^ | February 24, 2006 | Alex Alexiev

Posted on 02/24/2006 4:45:51 PM PST by Frank T

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To: Frank T
Thanks for posting. I also found interesting the State department publication of their country statistics. I didn't realize that they were a country of non-citizen residents.
Background Note: United Arab Emirates

People
Nationality: Noun and adjective--U.A.E., Emirati.
Population (2004 est.): 4.3 million.
Annual growth rate: 6.9%.
Ethnic groups: Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Egyptian, Jordanian, Iranian, Filipino, Other Arab, (15-20% of residents are U.A.E. citizens).
Religions: Muslim (96%), Hindu, Christian.
Languages: Arabic (official), English, Hindi, Urdu, Persian.
Education: Years compulsory--ages 6-12. Literacy (U.A.E. citizens)--about 80%.
Health: Life expectancy--About 74 yrs.
Work force (2003) 2.485 million (93% foreign in 15-64 age group): Agriculture--8%; industry--32%; services--60%.

PEOPLE

Only 15-20% of the total population of 4.041 million are U.A.E. citizens. The rest include significant numbers of other Arabs--Palestinians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Yemenis, Omanis--as well as many Iranians, Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis, Afghanis, Filipinos, and west Europeans.

The majority of U.A.E. citizens are Sunni Muslims with a small Shi'a minority. Most foreigners also are Muslim, although Hindus and Christians make up a portion of the U.A.E.'s foreign population.

Educational standards among U.A.E. citizens population are rising rapidly. Citizens and temporary residents have taken advantage of facilities throughout the country. The UAE University in Al Ain had roughly 17,000 students in 2004. The Higher Colleges of Technology, a network of technical-vocational colleges, opened in 1989 with men’s and women’s campuses in each emirate. Zayed University for women opened in 1998 with campuses in Abu Dhabi and Dubai.

GOVERNMENT

Administratively, the U.A.E. is a loose federation of seven emirates, each with its own ruler. The pace at which local government in each emirate evolves from traditional to modern is set primarily by the ruler. Under the provisional constitution of 1971, each emirate reserves considerable powers, including control over mineral rights (notably oil) and revenues. In this milieu, federal powers have developed slowly. The constitution established the positions of President (Chief of State) and Vice President, each serving 5-year terms; a Council of Ministers, led by a Prime Minister (head of government); a supreme council of rulers; and a 40-member National Assembly, a consultative body whose members are appointed by the emirate rulers.

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21 posted on 02/24/2006 5:55:27 PM PST by calcowgirl
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Anybody wonder what military aircraft they prefer and fly? F-16s. ... and their training happens in Arizona. Hmmm, how did they get F-16s and who let them come to Arizona to train .... hmmmm ..... Bill Clinton. (Bill, better tell Hillary before she makes a fool of herself again).


22 posted on 02/24/2006 6:01:48 PM PST by DHC-2
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To: Frank T
I agree, remember the "Fall of Constantinople" in 1453, when the they said the Islamists all rushed through the Gate (ports) leaving the Emperor and the Greek fighters alone between the two walls. This sudden movement did not escape the attention of the Ottoman commanders. Frantic orders were issued to the troops to concentrate their attack on the weakened position. Thousands Islamists rushed to the area so came the "Fall of Constantinople." “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
23 posted on 02/24/2006 6:02:09 PM PST by FreeRep
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We don't agree with the policies of China, yet we still do business with them.

Saying that we shouldn't do business with the UAE because we don't like the philosophy of their government is a really bad argument.

If we applied such naive idealism consistently, we wouldn't be able to do business with over half the world.


24 posted on 02/24/2006 6:07:34 PM PST by joseph20
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To: DHC-2

Well, they were asking for F-18s. At least they didn't get approval for that.


25 posted on 02/24/2006 6:08:08 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Frank T
A little more recent UAE activity.
26 posted on 02/24/2006 6:15:22 PM PST by Delta 21 ( Democrats -- a 40 year war on poverty and still no exit strategy)
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To: joseph20

Timothy McVeigh was from New York. Hillary and Schmuckie better stay outta this.


27 posted on 02/24/2006 6:15:45 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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Okay, let the UAE run the harbor--- but bring in Israel for security. Let's see how "friendly" they are to that suggestion.


28 posted on 02/24/2006 6:30:52 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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Well, they were asking for F-18s. At least they didn't get approval for that.

Actually, the block 60 F-16s they got are one of the most capable fighters in the world today - newer/more avionics than our blk 50 Vipers. The F-16 export has quite a bit of momentum built around the world.
29 posted on 02/24/2006 6:48:50 PM PST by cdgent
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One can do business, without giving unearned consideration or advantage to an unproved "friend" or "ally".

Some folks seem to use the terms "friend" and "ally" too easily..

Most of what some view as "friendly acts and cooperation" by the UAE to the U.S. -- appear to be nothing more than profit making business opportunities.

Allies and Friends should be expected to do a lot more - WITHOUT conditions!

Semper Fi
30 posted on 02/24/2006 7:10:50 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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"If we applied such naive idealism consistently, we wouldn't be able to do business with over half the world."

Much of this international business is done through shipping ports. That is why they must be secure.


31 posted on 02/24/2006 7:23:36 PM PST by Frank T
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To: river rat
Some folks seem to use the terms "friend" and "ally" too easily..

Nations don't have "friends", Nations have a relationship with other Nations that is in mutual self interest for a certain period of time.

32 posted on 02/24/2006 7:43:25 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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>>The F-16 export has quite a bit of momentum built around the world.

Now that is an understatement! LOL. How many did they build--about 5000?


33 posted on 02/24/2006 7:47:22 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: river rat

I agree with you that we should reserve the words "friend" and "ally" for those special countries that truly deserve it. And of course, our policy should reflect that consideration.

The author of this article--Alex Alexiev--stipulates that there is no security threat with this port deal. From that point, he argues that we should oppose this deal because of "the nature of the UAE state and the philosophy of government it represents". This sounds rather absurd. If we applied this standard consistently, we would not be doing business with most of the world. How does THAT help our interests?

The second argument put forth--that the UAE has supported terrorism in the past--is more interesting. There is, no doubt, evidence to this effect. However, Saudi Arabia also has a history of supporting terrorism, yet we still do business with them. So this argument leaves a lot to be desired. How do we square pre-9/11 support for terrorism with a sincere post-9/11 desire to "get on our side"? Our actions in Iraq and Afghanistan have sent a powerful message in that part of the world. We should welcome the opportunity to draw some of these countries over to our side and reap the benefits of our strong post-9/11 actions. I am quite assured that the U.S. has no illusions regarding the UAE, but that we have made a calculated decision to give *some* trust and benefits in exchange for cooperation in the WoT. The UAE will be much less interested in funding radical Islam and terrorism when it has a 6 billion dollar deal hanging in the balance.


34 posted on 02/24/2006 7:50:43 PM PST by joseph20
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I am too ignorant of the risks we are exposed to by allowing this deal to go through....to reject it on "risk" alone.

However -- I have learned from painful experience that in time of war, you don't take on unnecessary risks or exposures -- ESPECIALLY if it involves an entity that is bound by blood, attitude, goals and religion to your sworn enemy.

Your statement: "..with a sincere post-9/11 desire to "get on our side"?.... is one that I continue to doubt.. One man's "sincere desire" is another man's "giving the sleeves out of there vest".... Desire must be proved by ACTION, not words alone.

Neither the UAE or Saudi Arabia have done ANYTHING beyond cosmetic to COMBAT terrorism outside their own nation...

It is indisputable, they both continue to fund those that are our active enemy, and refuse to act as influential peace emissaries between us and the Palestinian lunatics or the murderers in Sudan, or the cartoon rioters, or the Wahhabi clerics beating the hate drums and issuing fatwas to murder cartoonists.....

I can easily understand the resistance the "deal" is getting.
I suspect it will go through, but it's good to have hell raised about our continued distrust of those that haven't yet gotten bloody by standing shoulder to shoulder with us on the battlefield.

THAT's where one who wishes to be your ally shows his "sincere desire"...

Semper Fi

35 posted on 02/24/2006 8:12:42 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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So, it's just business. The owners were British, now they will be UAE. Oops, the foot's in the door and what dirt is sticking to the foot. They will have to clean up their act before they can be trusted.


36 posted on 02/24/2006 8:25:03 PM PST by beesidemeusa (beesidemeusa)
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"The UAE will be much less interested in funding radical Islam and terrorism when it has a 6 billion dollar deal hanging in the balance."

Surely, you jest!

I sincerely doubt that $6 Billion would amount to more than a pimple on a flea's ass, when it comes to succeeding in the goal of Militant Wahhabi Islam...... World Domination.

They would blow off that $6 Billion without thought, if they could deal a deadly blow to the West..

In a New York Second...... again.

Semper Fi

37 posted on 02/24/2006 8:25:26 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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...the goal of Militant Wahhabi Islam..... World Domination

What does "Militant Wahhabi Islam" have to do with the United Arab Emirates?
38 posted on 02/24/2006 8:32:03 PM PST by joseph20
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However the DP World controversy is resolved ultimately, it would have been worthwhile if it leads to a long-overdue debate on who really is friend and who is foe in the war on terror. It's something that we still do not seem to be quite sure about four and a half years after 9/11.

Good point.

39 posted on 02/24/2006 8:38:10 PM PST by GOPJ
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" What does "Militant Wahhabi Islam" have to do with the United Arab Emirates?"

From the article:

The monthly journal of the Muslim World League indicates that the UAE and the potentates ruling them have donated large sums of money to virtually all of the Saudi-controlled instruments of spreading radical Islam, such as the Muslim World League, the Islamic Development Bank, the World Council of Mosques, and the Islamic Solidarity Fund (ISF), etc., for nearly three decades now.

Saudi controlled instruments of spreading radical Islam = Militant Wahhabi Islam..

Semper Fi

40 posted on 02/24/2006 8:43:12 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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