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Arabs Tell Rice Violence Like Iraq's Could Spread
NY Times ^ | February 25 2006 | JOEL BRINKLEY

Posted on 02/24/2006 6:33:33 PM PST by jmc1969

As violence spread across Iraq during Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's visit to the Middle East this week, kings, presidents and prime ministers told her that they were concerned that sectarian violence could spread across the Middle East.

"It came up pretty much everywhere," said a senior State Department official traveling with Ms. Rice.

During this trip, Ms. Rice met with leaders of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, the United Arab Emirates and the other Persian Gulf states.

One of the senior officials traveling with Ms. Rice said the Arab leaders, in their conversations with her, were particularly concerned that "outsiders could stir up trouble in Lebanon and perhaps the Palestinian territories."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathcult; psychoreligtion; religionofhate; religionofpsychos; religionofviolence; rop; trop
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1 posted on 02/24/2006 6:33:34 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969
I don't think so. A Mark IV is a little different.
2 posted on 02/24/2006 6:36:16 PM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: jmc1969

No Shi'ite...

Where could Muslim violence "spread" to that it doesn't already exist?

Semper Fi


4 posted on 02/24/2006 6:36:49 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Baynative

I think you just said it better than anyone else could.


5 posted on 02/24/2006 6:38:01 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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To: river rat
They are concerned I think about internecine Muslim on Muslim violence.
6 posted on 02/24/2006 6:38:10 PM PST by Torie
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To: jmc1969

WHY? There's only one answer!


7 posted on 02/24/2006 6:38:24 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: jmc1969

That says more about the nature of Islam and other mideast countries than it does about the US presence in Iraq.

Let it happen, so that the western world will finaly see the nature of the enemy.


8 posted on 02/24/2006 6:40:09 PM PST by wickedpinto (The road map to peace is a straight line down an Israeli rifle.)
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To: jmc1969

We really need to be drilling for oil in Alaska, of the california and Florida coasts,and turning coal and shale into oil. We really need to get free of these crazy people.

They have been doing this crap off and on for a thousand years. If they cant find anyone else to fight , they want to kill each other. If we had our own energy supply we could just let them fight it out amongst themselves.


9 posted on 02/24/2006 6:40:44 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: jmc1969

---"outsiders could stir up trouble in Lebanon and perhaps the Palestinian territories."---

Oh gee! We wouldn't want violence in Lebanon or the so-called Palastinian territories would we?


10 posted on 02/24/2006 6:42:06 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: jmc1969
I would of love to hear Condi ask the Arab leaders on how much violence in Iraq is being caused by their own citizens...


11 posted on 02/24/2006 6:42:21 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: jmc1969
"sectarian violence could spread across the Middle East."

Ok, then let's all agree to kill the instigators. My vote is fatboy and his Mahdi Militia on Saturday, Hizbullah on Sunday, Syria on Monday and Iran on Tuesday and Wednesday. The Palis get Thursday to think it over. If they don't come to the table the Israelis can take them apart before sundown Friday (Shabbat you know). That should pretty much do it.

12 posted on 02/24/2006 6:42:40 PM PST by trek
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To: jmc1969
Arabs Tell Rice Violence Like Iraq's Could Spread

Of course it can. As long as Arabs keep funding the terrorists and work hiddenly to erase Israel from the Middle East map, the possibility is always there.

13 posted on 02/24/2006 6:43:27 PM PST by paudio
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To: trek
dang I would have thought 3 hours would be ample, if we were serious, maybe even 30 minutes, if we really wanted to,
but a whole week....geeeeeezz!!!!
14 posted on 02/24/2006 6:46:11 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: jmc1969

We can deduce two things here:
1. It's the NYT so has to be true./ huge sarcasm alert.
2. They always get everything WRONG!/huge truth alert.


15 posted on 02/24/2006 6:46:21 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775 (I)
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To: jmc1969

Oh, my, are Muslims VIOLENT? Can it be true?


16 posted on 02/24/2006 6:50:19 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: jmc1969
You know, I hate to sound like a violent, blood-thirsty warmonger, but here goes: we could solve the whole Islamic problem in one white flash. These folks are obviously on the side of whoever seems to be a "winner." Well, I say we nuke Mecca right off the face of the earth. No more big black rock, and Allah couldn't do a thing about it.

Hey, for the squeamish, we can even evacuate the area first, if you want. But I say that rock's gotta go.

17 posted on 02/24/2006 6:51:39 PM PST by wizardoz
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To: sgtbono2002

B U M P !


18 posted on 02/24/2006 6:53:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: sgtbono2002
"If we had our own energy supply we could just let them fight it out amongst themselves."
We could still encourage or at least condone their fighting amongst themselves.
19 posted on 02/24/2006 6:56:36 PM PST by GSlob
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To: jmc1969

Well Rice needs to tell them Arabs that she'll get her magic lasso and take care of it right now.


20 posted on 02/24/2006 6:57:29 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: wickedpinto

This is all about them threatening us and the administration doesn't either get it, or refuses to see it. This administration had better wake up and we the people of the USA are responsible to seeing that they do. I urge everyone to contact their rep's and do it often to stop the Dubai deal and to put these sell out politico's feet to the fire. I'm sick of them. They had better step up to the plate and protect this nation or we the people are in deep crap.


21 posted on 02/24/2006 7:04:15 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow (Oust the IslamoCommies here and abroad.)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

I really hate to say this, and may I forever be wrong, but I believe they heard us baconing and decide to take the money and bend us over. So your later thought is my first thought, but may I be wrong.


22 posted on 02/24/2006 7:08:27 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: no-to-illegals

decide - decided


23 posted on 02/24/2006 7:09:31 PM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: jmc1969

If they'll kill each other over cartoons.....


24 posted on 02/24/2006 7:09:45 PM PST by airborne
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To: Baynative
Also, this just in ...WATER RUNS DOWNHILL!

So does $hit......

25 posted on 02/24/2006 7:09:59 PM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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To: jmc1969

Threats and blackmail. Let's hope Secretary Rice can stand up to it.


26 posted on 02/24/2006 7:11:19 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: KellyAdmirer
Oh, my, are Muslims VIOLENT? Can it be true?

Not to the MSM, democrats (until recently and only until they get their agendas through), and the Hollyweird left. But who's keeping track?

27 posted on 02/24/2006 7:12:39 PM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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To: Torie
But that too, has been going on for CENTURIES... And, it was prevalent in Iraq under Saddam... "They are concerned I think about internecine Muslim on Muslim violence."

Have you forgotten the mass graves of Shi'ites they've been uncovering ---- plus the wholesale slaughter of the Kurds by the Muslims?

Murder is to Muslim as Cold it to Ice....

No news, No change, No loss.....
The more time they spend killing each other, the less time they'll have to kill others.

Semper Fi

28 posted on 02/24/2006 7:16:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Your postulate that internecine violence contains non-internecine violence is a tragic tacit erroneous assumption. One goes with the other, like bacon and eggs.


29 posted on 02/24/2006 7:17:51 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

You're going to have to speak plain English, for this old man to follow your "logic"....

Semper Fi


30 posted on 02/24/2006 7:22:27 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jmc1969

Then they must all be disappointed today since it seem the Iraqis have been too smart to fall into their little trap.


31 posted on 02/24/2006 7:24:07 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: river rat

There is nothing wrong with endeavoring to expand your vocabulary. It is empowering.


32 posted on 02/24/2006 7:24:51 PM PST by Torie
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To: jmc1969

Yea... could spread to the lawless territories that the arab world is complicit in maintaining (Lebanon and Palestinian territories).

Police yourselves.


33 posted on 02/24/2006 7:28:04 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

She's the best we've got.


34 posted on 02/24/2006 7:31:08 PM PST by Nova
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To: darkwing104
The tactic is to cause violence and destruction and make it look like someone else did it. While everyone is chasing the rabbit down the rabbit hole, you do it again. The insurgents are hoping that they can manipulate human nature using the device of religions to break down the progress of the Iraqi people. They will be proved wrong.

The evil forces that are working to destroy the progress of freedom are thinking they have hit on a breakthrough tactic.

We must be patient. It will take a little time to alert the Iraqi people of this latest tactic. This will be a test of the ability of Iraq's free press to get the truth out. Hopefully, the Iraqi people will learn what has been done before too much damage has been done. When they learn that insurgent forces are working to use the mosque destruction to stir up hatred, a real backlash should occur. With the exercise of the free press, something Iraq never had before, the insurgents will have one more failure.

The truth, something the insurgents have no control over, shall set the Iraqi people free.
35 posted on 02/24/2006 7:39:18 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Sweetjustusnow
The Administration is the ONLY part of government that handles foreign policy other than the citizens. Thats a fact. Every loudmouth in congress needs to shut the hell up, at least when they are speaking as "civil servants" It is necessary for the executive to make these iffy decisions and take the hits, so that we can maintain an Ally for the moment, and address the next issue once this one is done.

As long as there is the unapologetic hatred (this is not that, otherwise they wouldn't be make excuses for the outrage, and be just as honest as bin laden) of the US and Western Culture, the piggy bank for all islamic efforts, then we will still have a diffident ally. The President, at the moment has a task to accomplish and cannot expand it. The Citizenry can stand up, and we should, but we need a good lie to tell the world, and while we are making our decisions, and convincing our representatives, the executive should do what it must and buy time, while it completes the task and hand.
36 posted on 02/24/2006 7:41:14 PM PST by wickedpinto (The road map to peace is a straight line down an Israeli rifle.)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

Also, it isn't our job to educate the executive, our job is to CHOOSE the executive, it is our job to educate the legistlure. and they are just as wrong, hundreds of times more than the executive, since we have hudreds of "reps" but only one Executive. The REASON for executive power is to allow a single mind to decide in a time of crisis, there can be no faltering of stance, we chose, he is the executive, and it is for him to make decisions that will live throughout history. If you disagree, then stop voting for "greatest presidents" and start voting for "greatest group of voters to select an executive" But thats not how it works.


37 posted on 02/24/2006 7:44:24 PM PST by wickedpinto (The road map to peace is a straight line down an Israeli rifle.)
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To: jmc1969

Did they also tell Rice that they would be doing their damnedest to keep it under control. Islam has converted a large part of the world into a powder keg. It is better to explode it now rather than when the blast will be even more powerful.


38 posted on 02/24/2006 7:47:39 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: sgtbono2002

We don't have the luxury of non-involvement given the availability nuclear weapons. That is fantasy talking.


39 posted on 02/24/2006 7:50:03 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Torie
Vocabulary is not the problem....

Your use of the word "contains" was sloppy to convey your meaning....

A better choice would have been "prevents" or "precludes" would have been a better choice -- If you were attempting to convey that I was wrong to assume that Muslim fighting Muslim would prevent or hinder their ability to fight Non-Muslims...

Perhaps not --- but I sure like Muslims lunatics from one gang helping me kill Muslim lunatics from another gang and a distracted and decimated enemy is a weaker enemy.

A large vocabulary is empowering, ONLY when you select the right words to CLEARLY express your "thoughts"...

Smart ass.

Semper Fi

40 posted on 02/24/2006 7:50:40 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

con·tain   Audio pronunciation of "contains" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (kn-tn)
tr.v. con·tained, con·tain·ing, con·tains

   1.
         1. To have within; hold.
         2. To be capable of holding.
   2. To have as component parts; include or comprise: The album contains many memorable songs.
   3.
         1. To hold or keep within limits; restrain: I could hardly contain my curiosity.
         2. To halt the spread or development of; check: Science sought an effective method of containing the disease.
   4. To check the expansion or influence of (a hostile power or ideology) by containment.
   5. Mathematics. To be exactly divisible by.

Check out definition number 3, 3(1) in particular. Context is your friend. Thanks.

41 posted on 02/24/2006 7:57:09 PM PST by Torie
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To: Sweetjustusnow

You are clueless wrt the port deal since it involves our greatest ally and asset in the Gulf a country which is completely on board with the War on Terror. A majority of our war effort in Iraq and Afganistan uses bases and ports from the UAE to maintain those efforts.

Blind hysteria and belief in the Treason Media/Party of Treason propaganda is the LAST thing a conservative wants to do.

Any with doubts about this should review the transcript of Tommy Franks' interview with Hannity the other night.

RATS do not open their mouths without damaging our foreign policy and militarty efforts this is a typical example which also shows the total gullibility of many who call themselves conservatives. They are lead around by the nose ONCE AGAIN by the Dan Rather press and have fallen so low as to believe ONE WORK from the mouths of Schumer/Clinton/Boxer/Murray collection of clowns.

You should be ashamed.


42 posted on 02/24/2006 7:58:32 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: wickedpinto

This Mob of Lunacy whippen up by the Treason Media/Party of Treason is a perfect example of why the Founders strictly limited day to day democratic input. Foreign policy based on Hysteria would not be too effective.

In those days once the governments were elected they were far more isolated from public opinion than now yet it was a principle concern even so that its impact be limited.

Who in their right mind could believe the Party of Treason has any concern about National Security and once again are damaging it by attacking a firm and loyal ally, the UAE.


43 posted on 02/24/2006 8:04:01 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"informed representation" is why we are a republic, not a democracy. You cannot count on the public being informed in the same way as it's servants without either making secrets public knowledge, or without eliminating the free press, and managing information.

Democratic ideal's are necessary, but we need to stop PUSHING the populace into believing that their moments of fickle, uninformed judgment have any real validity. That is the flaw of the democrats, they PUSH for a momentary political gain, but the nature of our government FORCES them to take an average of governance, rather than being allowed to dictate the policies of the moment.

Quick aside, There was a book I read a long time ago(18 or so years I think) called "War Birds" by R.M.M. Mulloch, it's a sci-fi piece, with very little sci-fi, but it does a great job of showing the weakness and brilliance of our form of governances. When you read it (which if you are a sci-fi fan I recommend) you can see a US v Europe v Developing nation subtext to it. It's really a great book, lots of issues addressed. AND! it was written by a chick, which is surprising (cuz it is so ideal in it's militarism) with one exception.
44 posted on 02/24/2006 8:10:50 PM PST by wickedpinto (The road map to peace is a straight line down an Israeli rifle.)
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To: Torie

I did notice that is was the THIRD -- possible use of the word...and not nearly as descriptive or clear of intent as other words.

If you won't admit that both words I suggested were clearer ..then remain an unclear smart ass.

Now, I think I hear your mommy calling.... go away.

Semper Fi


45 posted on 02/24/2006 8:20:16 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jmc1969
Arabs Tell Rice Violence Like Iraq's Could Spread

You reap what you sow

46 posted on 02/24/2006 8:21:26 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: river rat
It was the right word actually. Preclude means to totally prevent, while contain means to prevent the spread. You don't think internecine Moslem violence would preclude Moslem violence on non Moslems do you? Of course not. My only assertion was that internecine violence would not serve to contain.

I am not trying to be a smartass. I am trying to be helpful to empower you to express yourself more effectively. Cheers.

47 posted on 02/24/2006 8:24:05 PM PST by Torie
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To: wickedpinto
" so that we can maintain an Ally for the moment"

You tell me by the votes of this so called "ally" at the U.N. and the shipment of arms and nukes through the ports of Dubai to Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, etc. and the libbing of Madeline Albright, Tom Dashle, Clinton, Dole and others to push this stinking buy out of our Country to people who want to see this country in a smoking putrid abyss that you consider these people an ally? You have got to be kidding me. Are you a conservative patriot? Or have you bought the Globalization of the USA in which any country, never mind that they desire our destruction can buy we the people out? This is our country. I didn't vote to sell off our port control to the UAE. Did you?
48 posted on 02/24/2006 8:24:47 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow (Oust the IslamoCommies here and abroad.)
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To: wickedpinto

I'll keep my eye out for it never heard of it. Thanks.

Thank God for Washington, Hamilton, Madison, Morris, Wilson, Franklin and those incredible men who gave us our amazing form of government now under constant attack from the Party of Treaon/Treason Media.


49 posted on 02/24/2006 8:24:49 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Sweetjustusnow

"libbing" Should be Lobbying.....must have been a freudian slip.


50 posted on 02/24/2006 8:26:17 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow (Oust the IslamoCommies here and abroad.)
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