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IRA supporters attack police, thwart Protestant march through central Dublin
CBC ^ | Feb 25, 2006 | Shawn Pogatchnik

Posted on 02/25/2006 12:37:44 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite

DUBLIN, Ireland (AP) - Several hundred Irish Republican army supporters attacked police on Dublin's central boulevard and near the parliament building Saturday to prevent an unprecedented parade by Northern Ireland Protestants.

In riotous scenes rarely seen in the Republic of Ireland, protesters hurled bottles, bricks and fireworks, at police as they tried to clear the hostile crowd from O'Connell Street.

The Garda Siochana, Ireland's national police force, said 14 people - six officers, seven protesters and a journalist - were hospitalized, mostly with head wounds. More than a dozen other people suffered less serious injuries. The police advised shoppers and tourists to avoid the entire city centre, which is normally packed with pedestrian traffic on Saturdays.

Officers in full riot gear - helmets, shields and clubs - arrested at least 37 protesters as a police surveillance plane circled overhead.

The protesters, mostly young men covering their faces with scarves, chanted pro-IRA slogans as they waged running battles with riot police and other officers on horseback for more than an hour, forcing shops on Ireland's most famous street to close. Afterward, O'Connell Street was littered with broken paving stones and glass from shattered shop windows.

Later, more scuffles broke out on Kildare Street near Leinster House, Ireland's parliament, and the country's national history and art museums. At least three cars were set on fire, one was flipped over, and the windows of several others were smashed as police struggled to contain the rioters.

The mayhem forced Protestant hardliners from the Love Ulster campaign to abandon their plan to parade through Dublin, which the Irish government had supported in a gesture of reconciliation. It would have been the first parade in Dublin by pro-British Protestants since Ireland's partition into a mostly Protestant north and mostly Catholic south in 1921.

Prime Minister Bertie Ahern said Protestant "unionists," who favour Northern Ireland's union with Britain, should have enjoyed freedom to demonstrate their views.

"There is absolutely no excuse for the disgraceful scenes in Dublin today," Ahern said. "It is the essence of Irish democracy and republicanism that people are allowed to express their views freely and in a peaceful manner."

Leaders of the aborted parade praised police efforts to protect them, but nonetheless handed a letter of protest to Justice Minister Michael McDowell during a meeting inside Leinster House.

A Protestant politician, Democratic Unionist party legislator Jeffrey Donaldson, said most of the rioters had travelled to Dublin from Catholic areas of Northern Ireland.

"We have received a warm welcome from ordinary Dubliners," Donaldson said. "But it's clear these republicans have come from north of the border and other areas intent only on causing trouble."

Sinn Fein, the IRA-linked party that represents most Catholics in Northern Ireland but is less popular south of the border, sought to distance itself from the violence.

Sean Crowe, a Sinn Fein member of parliament, said the Protestant marchers "came to Dublin today to be provocative and get a reaction. Sinn Fein urged people not to be provoked and to stay away, and the vast majority of Dubliners . . . did just that."

But the Social Democratic and Labour party, which represents moderate Catholic opinion in Northern Ireland, said republican rioters had reinforced Protestants' hostility to the idea of a politically united Ireland.

The Love Ulster campaign is led by Willie Frazer, several of whose relatives were killed by the modern IRA.

The IRA in 1970 launched a bloody campaign to force Northern Ireland out of the United Kingdom. The outlawed group killed about 1,775 people and maimed thousands more before calling a 1997 cease-fire.


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The IRA are traitors!!
1 posted on 02/25/2006 12:37:50 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite
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To: Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; col kurz; ..

A ping to the IRA traitors causing havoc in Ireland's capital!


2 posted on 02/25/2006 12:39:04 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

See related thread from an RTE story here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1585402/posts


3 posted on 02/25/2006 12:42:15 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
First off, there is no proof the IRA had any part in this. It appears it was two groups of hooligans from the north who couldn't wait for July to resume their feud.

Secondly, it sounds like both sides could have done this in Belfast or Londonderry and saved a lot of time and money.
4 posted on 02/25/2006 12:44:24 PM PST by BW2221
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To: PAR35

Ok, thanks.


5 posted on 02/25/2006 12:44:34 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: BW2221

It was the IRA, no question about it!! They are terrorists and traitors, plain and simple!!


6 posted on 02/25/2006 12:47:33 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Sometimes people get tired on being sh!t on. It happens from time to time throughout the world. Signers of the Declaration of Independence thought so here.


7 posted on 02/25/2006 12:49:40 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite; PAR35

It was the cartoons...It must have been the cartoons...There were cartoons weren't they? Tell me it was the cartoons....cartoons..cartoons...cartoons...they drive me mad...


8 posted on 02/25/2006 12:49:45 PM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Cornpone

LOL!! Must have been a cartoon of Patrick Pearse - the Mo of the IRA!!


9 posted on 02/25/2006 12:53:22 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: ex-snook

You do realise that you are belittling your own patriots by regarding this riot as the same, six members of our police force was injured in the riot.


10 posted on 02/25/2006 12:55:18 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
You are getting yourself very worked up.

The Orangemen knew there would be a reaction just like there is every July when these morons march through Catholic neighborhoods banging their drums looking for trouble.

Unlike Northern Ireland, the Irish Republic has been very tolerant of non-Catholics. In fact, the Lord Mayor of Dublin was a Jew for many years.

Sounds like you're more Thatcherite than Irish. Irish Thatcherite couldn't be the screen name for the "Reverend" Ian Paisley, could it???
11 posted on 02/25/2006 12:57:55 PM PST by BW2221
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To: BW2221

Funny how you blame a peaceful march, rather than a riot.

And BTW I am an Irish Catholic living in southern Ireland, I choose 'Thatcherite' in my screenname because I agree with Thatcher's economic policy, and she fought against the IRA. And remember that she was a staunch ally of Reagan!!


12 posted on 02/25/2006 1:05:26 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i'll prolly get a rap in the mouth for this, but...

this whole Marching Season stuff seems a bit Nay NayNay NayNay Nay in your face nonsense anyway.

it's kinda like if Yankee's INSISTED that they march through Atlanta every year!!!

they'd get the same welcome... and rightly so.

13 posted on 02/25/2006 1:06:56 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
It was the IRA, no question about it!!

No, it wasn't. The whole thing was Bush's fault.

14 posted on 02/25/2006 1:09:17 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Chode

If the Yankees marched on Atlanta, so what? Who cares about the slave owners!


15 posted on 02/25/2006 1:10:01 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Fiji Hill; Cornpone
No, it wasn't. The whole thing was Bush's fault.

LOL!! Cornpone believes it's the Danish cartoons!

16 posted on 02/25/2006 1:11:59 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

As I posted, people are known to get 'uppity' when they are sh!t on - so I'm sure you want them kept in their place.


17 posted on 02/25/2006 1:13:14 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
I don't dispute then Thatcher is a fine lady and was one of the great leaders of the free world.

You can't deny, however, that the Orangemen knew there would be a disturbance just like there is every July 12 when they march through Catholic areas looking for trouble. I am not trying to justify the actions of either side. But, when you go looking for trouble, you usually find it.

The Irish Republic is and has always been more tolerant than Northern Ireland, much of which was seeded to riffraff the English wanted to get rid of.

I'm glad the members of the original IRA didn't share your views or they would be singing "God Save the Queen" and bowing to Prince Floppy Ears in Dublin.
18 posted on 02/25/2006 1:21:17 PM PST by BW2221
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To: ex-snook

Of course I want a terrorist group kept in their place, a six-foot deep hole in ground, preferably.

And the overwhelming majority of Irish people think the same way about those scumbags!!


19 posted on 02/25/2006 1:22:29 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

It's people like you that keeps the IRA in existence.


20 posted on 02/25/2006 1:27:27 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: BW2221
I don't dispute then Thatcher is a fine lady and was one of the great leaders of the free world.

We agree there so.

You can't deny, however, that the Orangemen knew there would be a disturbance just like there is every July 12 when they march through Catholic areas looking for trouble.

I'm sure Danish cartoonists had an idea there was going to be trouble over the publications of cartoons of Mohammad, but they aren't to blame for it, either.

The Irish Republic is and has always been more tolerant than Northern Ireland, much of which was seeded to riffraff the English wanted to get rid of.

The southern Protestant population has fallen from 10% to less than 2% since Independence - Ireland has it's skeletons too!!

I'm glad the members of the original IRA didn't share your views or they would be singing "God Save the Queen" and bowing to Prince Floppy Ears in Dublin.

What some people don't seem to realize is, the old IRA are not the moral equals of the modern IRA - the men of the old IRA were ordinary decent men, the IRA of today are scumbags.

And my opinions are the opinions of most Irish people - they don't like IRA violence being carried out in their name.

21 posted on 02/25/2006 1:34:35 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: ex-snook

I could say the same thing about you and Al Qaida!!

The fact is, it's better to fight terrorism than appease it!!


22 posted on 02/25/2006 1:37:34 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
What part about the English domination of Ireland don't you understand?

- The fact that the British government took their land and gave it to the English aristocrats and Scottish settlers

- The fact that Catholic Irish were not permitted to vote or even attend sessions of the Irish Parliament

- The fact that more than 1-million Irish died of starvation during the 1840s and England, only a few hundred miles away, did little to help their subjects

- The fact that Irish were discriminated against simply because of their religion.

Considering the way they were oppressed for centuries, I believe the Irish Republic is unbelievably tolerant. I doubt that you are truly a Catholic Irishman but if you truly are, I might suggest you consider moving to England, where you can worship the monarchy on a daily basis. It appears servitude is something you enjoy.
23 posted on 02/25/2006 1:45:29 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
Jonathan Swift died on 19 October 1745, aged 78. He hadn't been in a good frame of mind for some time. He managed to keep some of his sense of humor, though--his last will and testament provided funds to establish somewhere around Dublin a hospital for "ideots & lunaticks" because "No Nation wanted [needed] it so much."

But before that, he had quite the interesting perspective on the "big-endians" versus the "small-endians."

24 posted on 02/25/2006 1:45:38 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Islamists say we shouldn't make a mockery of religion -- funny, that's the problem I have with them!)
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To: BW2221

I could tell you the same stuff about the Indians, are going to hand America back to the Indians?

No point using history as a stick against the present!!


25 posted on 02/25/2006 1:48:35 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: NicknamedBob

I guess we could shove the entire IRA into a mental hospital!!


26 posted on 02/25/2006 1:50:32 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Here in the United States, we generally don't care where our neighbor goes to church. Normally, we don't even know unless we ask.

Although I am getting a little concerned about some folks who dress funny.


27 posted on 02/25/2006 2:05:45 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Islamists say we shouldn't make a mockery of religion -- funny, that's the problem I have with them!)
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To: NicknamedBob

Hmmm... Orangemen dress funny, but only on marches!!


28 posted on 02/25/2006 2:14:51 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Updated: 2:21 p.m. ET Feb. 25, 2006

ORLANDO, Fla. - Violence broke out at a neo-Nazi rally before a planned march through a predominantly black neighborhood Saturday, with police making numerous arrests.

Police hauled away at least five people in handcuffs after a fistfight broke out between supporters of the National Socialist Movement and counter-demonstrators who were voicing their displeasure with the group’s anti-minority message.


29 posted on 02/25/2006 2:15:46 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: ex-snook

It's still the freedom of assembly, and you can't compare Orangemen to Nazi scum!


30 posted on 02/25/2006 2:17:07 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
i got the popcorn i have a feeling this thread is going to get good in a minute :-)
31 posted on 02/25/2006 2:31:27 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
People from a foreign country trying to start trouble doesn't bother you, but unsubstantiated claims about IRA involvement do.

My ancestors were Catholics from County Down and they have told me about the crap your buddies, the Orangemen, put them through ... which is why they immigrated to the U.S.

You don't have to worry about the possibility of the Muslims ever taking over. It appears you enjoy Dhimmitude.
32 posted on 02/25/2006 2:33:03 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Can't compare Orangemen to Nazis?

Nazis oppressed Catholics. So did Orangemen.

Nazis loved to bully their enemies in the streets with parades and brawls. So do the Orangemen.

Nazis loved to remind their defeated foes who was boss through public acts of humiliation. So do the Orangemen.

Nazis were bigots. So are the Orangemen.

Granted, the comparison is limited, but it works within reason.


33 posted on 02/25/2006 2:50:15 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: BW2221

The IRA are terrorists!!! Why don't you come to Ireland, seeing as you know so much about it?

The IRA have murdered 2000 people in Ireland, both north and south.

It's amazing that I have to listen to a foreigner lecture me about my own damn country!!

Dhimmitude - that's what will happen when Sinn Fein/IRA overthrow the democratic governments of both the Republic and Northern Ireland.

And what the Hell do you mean by unsubstaniated claims? Are you making excuses for the IRA?


34 posted on 02/25/2006 5:31:59 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: freepatriot32

Which side are you on?


35 posted on 02/25/2006 5:32:30 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: vladimir998

I don't recall a genocide in Northern Ireland, and the Famine wasn't genocide.

Go to somewhere else if you want to defend the IRA!!


36 posted on 02/25/2006 5:33:52 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Cornpone
cartoons

But were they cartoons of the pope to incite the Catholics, or was the IRA putting out those offensive images of John Calvin again?

37 posted on 02/25/2006 5:35:01 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Probably a cartoon of Patrick Pearse, or Theobald Wolfe Tone!!


38 posted on 02/25/2006 5:45:47 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite; PAR35; Chode
I remember going to a pub down near the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge a year ago and reading an item in a Irish newspaper about the "Marching season."

The thing that struck me was a passage where it discussed who would be providing security for the peaceful counter-demonstrations among Roman Catholics.

It was supposedly members of the IRA.

Is it just me, or does that sound like an extraordinarily odd way of keeping the peace?

39 posted on 02/25/2006 6:06:34 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The logic is arseways when it comes to Northern Ireland, especially with Blair and Ahern around!

The logic was a bit arseways with some the posters on this thread tonight LOL!!


40 posted on 02/25/2006 6:09:46 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

shades of Altamont...


41 posted on 02/25/2006 8:54:01 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

The Irish language was banned. The Catholic faith was illegal in the early modern period. The land of natives was stolen. The native population was beaten down, robbed, starved, and deported.

Not genocide? Close enough.

Ireland's population was cut in half in the nineteenth century. Nor genocide? Yes, all of those people were not murdered or starved. Most left to escape the poverty forced on Ireland by English law and brutality.


42 posted on 02/26/2006 9:33:38 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

And what the hell has all that got to do with the modern IRA? What has a famine 150 years ago got to do with today?

They are trying to overthrow Irish democracy, they are have also killed 2000 people, north and south!!


43 posted on 02/26/2006 11:14:33 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: freepatriot32; kellynla
i got the popcorn i have a feeling this thread is going to get good in a minute :-)

If you want this thread to get "good", you'd have to invite Kellynla to the party!

 

44 posted on 02/26/2006 11:26:02 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: vladimir998; BW2221; ex-snook

Why can't you all listen to the opinions of someone who actually lives in Ireland?

The IRA have murdered innocent Protestants in Northern Ireland, in a war against British democracy.

They have murdered members of the Irish police force, in a war against Irish democracy.

They are engaged in a criminal conspiracy to overthrow Irish demcoracy, and replace it with a socialist dictatorship.

They are in league with FARC, ETA, the PLO, Al Qaida, etc.

They are allies of Castro and Chavez.



And all you can complain about are Orangemen banging a drum, crybabies!!


45 posted on 02/26/2006 11:32:25 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Incorrigible
If you want this thread to get "good", you'd have to invite Kellynla to the party!

Yes, I would like to get a flame war going.... LOL!!

46 posted on 02/26/2006 11:33:36 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: vladimir998
The Irish have only themselves to blame Vladimir!

The English honed the divide and conquer strategy used so successfully around the world when they were brought into the internecine warring between the kingdoms of Ireland.

The Irish, being Irish, did not view the English as worthy opponents, and thus continued to fight among themselves to this very day!

:-)

Actually, I tell my relatives in Ireland that if I walk into a shop or pub and see a sign saying "We treat you like family", I turn around and run out the door!

 

47 posted on 02/26/2006 11:34:16 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

LOL! I couldn't help myself IT!


48 posted on 02/26/2006 11:35:02 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Chode

it's kinda like if Yankee's INSISTED that they march through Atlanta every year!!!

HEY! HEY! Atlanta has a great Gay Pride parade, and don't you forget it.


49 posted on 02/26/2006 11:37:47 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Incorrigible

It's a pity it was a quiet weekend with my ping list, there would have been fireworks!!


50 posted on 02/26/2006 11:38:36 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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