Skip to comments.Justice Scalia: Guns Not Just for Crime
Posted on 02/26/2006 1:44:39 PM PST by wagglebee
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia fondly remembers carrying a rifle around New York City as a boy and says outdoorsmen should attack the idea that guns are only used for crimes.
An avid outdoorsmen who's hunted with Vice President Dick Cheney, Scalia spoke Saturday at the National Wild Turkey Federation's annual convention.
"The attitude of people associating guns with nothing but crime, that is what has to be changed," Scalia told the audience of about 2,000.
"I grew up at a time when people were not afraid of people with firearms," said Scalia, noting that as a youth in New York City he was part of a rifle team at the military school he attended.
"I used to travel on the subway from Queens to Manhattan with a rifle," he said. "Could you imagine doing that today in New York City?"
Scalia was criticized in 2004 for hunting ducks with Cheney while the Supreme Court was considering a case involving Cheney's energy task force. This month, a lawyer hunting with Cheney in Texas was wounded when he stepped in the way as Cheney fired at a bird.
The nonprofit turkey federation is dedicated to conserving wild turkeys and preserving hunting traditions.
The media would go bonkers if he shot Scalia. Dont they wish.
People do it with concealed pistols all the time...
If Cheney had accidentally shot Scailia, the media would be complaining that Scalia got "preferential treatment" from Cheney's medical staff.
Scalia was giving a speech to a group promoting hunter's rights. Nothing that Scalia has ever said or written (that I am aware of) gives any indication that he does not fully support the second amendment.
and politicians try to say guns are only for hunting...that is why they believe in the 2nd amendment...so the VP can shoot republican lawyers!!!
No one else but police(and their body guards) need guns..not even the military.
Only responsible people.
Drop off a trailer of loaded shotguns in the Bronx or South Central and see what happens.
We always carried around bb and pellet guns when we were kids. Never got a second look. Maybe we should all start openly carrying again so that people will be less likely to freak when they get used to them again...
When I was 12, I actually had a scabbard on my bike, to carry my .22. I could ride through town, to Western Auto, park the bike, walk into the store, with the rifle, buy my weekly needs of ammo, get back on the bike, and go hunting.
Does anyone else remember buying 10 .22 long rifle loads, or 5 shotgun shells, because it was all you could afford?
When I was 18, I crewed on a commercial snapper boat, I would walk a couple of miles to the city dock, with a Lee Enfield slung over my shoulder, at 2 AM. One morning, a cop stopped me on the bridge, asked me where I was going, I told him "fishing", and he gave me a lift to the dock, and shared his thermos of coffee with me. He never even asked if the rifle was loaded! Imagine that, a "cop" assuming that a "civilian" kid, had sense enough to carry a gun, without calling in the SWAT bunch.
I am amazed, in retrospect, at just how quickly my life has gone by, and by just how much our freedoms have suffered, in such a short time.
Re your #8 -
It seems that Scalia was using his rifle in NY for cometitive shooting in a military school.
As far as I know, the military hasn't had a lot to do with "hunting" either lately.
But then again, the 2nd A. really isn't about the standing military, either. Although I think it was presumed during the founding that the National Military (which was supposed to be kept at a minimum) and the local Militias were supposed to be working cooperatively.
Of course, after the Civil War, the Federal Gov't. seems to have reconsidered the idea of relative local / State military autonomy, and that was pretty much the end of the "Militia" system as a serious tactical element in America.
By the mid 1890s the "Militia" became "National Guard", subject to federalization.
So much for "State's Rights", as Roe V. Wade has pretty much demonstrated.
Well perhaps with S. Dakota passing a ban on abortion,
States Rights will be revisited again real soon
"People do it with concealed pistols all the time..."
My friend tells a funny story about a guy dropping his gun on her foot in the subway. She said "Um, excuse me, your gun is on my foot." He was an undercover cop, or so he claimed, she believed him anyway.
Security guards go, "Nice gun..!"
Hell I mused to walk out of my house in the Germantown section of Phila at 17 with my 15 year old brother carrying a shotgun and walk two blocks to the trolley get on ride for 1/2 hour get off take a bus into Ambler PA and walk 1 mile to go hunting and NOBODY even gave a damn
That was back in 1953
People wouldn't believe that when I tell them that today
And the police didn't ear vests as a daily part of their uniform
Quite right! The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting.
Well, we don't know whether he supports the incorporation of the Second Amendment to the states, but then again this issue wasn't (yet) considered by the SCOTUS (which is strange, BTW).