Posted on 02/27/2006 7:44:57 AM PST by Timedrifter
About 50% of Ukrainians nostalgic for Soviet times - poll
27/02/2006 15:16
KIEV, February 27 (RIA Novosti, Vladimir Suprun) - About 50% of Ukrainians want to live back in the Soviet Union, a national pollster said Monday.
According to the survey conducted by the Razumkov center of economic and political research, 20.4% of respondents said they wanted the Soviet Union and the socialist system to be restored, and 28.3% said they wanted this as well, but believed it was impossible under the present conditions.
A total of 51.3% of respondents were against a return to Soviet times.
More than 57% of the Ukrainian respondents said Russian should be made the official or state language in certain regions, whereas 35% were against this.
According to the survey, 42.2% of respondents said relations with Russia were a priority, 12% - with former Soviet republics, 25.4% - with the European Union and only 1.5% - with the United States.
Meanwhile, only 16% said they were in favor of Ukraine's possible accession to NATO, whereas 61.4% said they did not support the idea.
The nationwide poll, based on interviews with 2,009 adults, was conducted prior to the 15th anniversary of the referendum on the preservation of the Soviet Union. The margin of error did not exceed 2%.
On March 17, 1991, more than 70% of Ukrainians voted for preserving the U.S.S.R.
Heck, I thought your post was right on! I was just agreeing with you and pointing out where you could find more info on the subject from someone who has lived through a commie regime.
I took no offense to your post at all. Keep up the good work.
It is nice to see that I am not the only one who understands what the commies are all about.
Just love how the Russian "RIA Novosti" threw that one in there. lol
IN THE 1991 DECEMBER NATIONAL REFERENDUM, 90% OF THE POPULATION VOTED FOR INDEPENDENCE.
Ukrainian run story: http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2006/2/22/39044.htm (in Ukrainian).
Gives breakdown among regions- 83.7% in W. Ukraine against USSR. But 51.7% in the East and 73.4% in the South for USSR.
Yeah, life was just rosy during those famines.
The Black Book of Communism
The introduction, by editor Stéphane Courtois, maintains that "...Communist regimes...turned mass crime into a full-blown system of government". Using unofficial estimates he cites a death toll which totalling 94 million.
The breakdown of the number of deaths given in the Black Book is as follows: 20 million in the Soviet Union, 65 million in the People's Republic of China, 1 million in Vietnam, 2 million in North Korea, 2 million in Cambodia, 1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe, 150,000 in Latin America, 1.7 million in Africa, 1.5 million in Afghanistan and 10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power"
A more detailed catalog (from the introduction) of some of the crimes described in the book includes:
Soviet Union: executions of hostages, prisoners, rebellious workers and peasants from 1918 to 1922; the famine of 1922; the deportation of the Don Cossacks in 1920; the use of the Gulag system in the period between 1918 and 1930; the Great Purge; the deportation of kulaks from 1930 to 1932; the deaths of 4 million Ukrainians and 2 million others during the famine of 1932 and 1933; the deportations of Poles, Ukrainians, Balts, Moldavans and Bessarabians from 1939 to 1941 and from 1944 to 1945; the deportation of the Volga Germans in 1941; the deportation of the Crimean Tatars on 18 May 1944; the deportation of the Chechens in 1944; the deportation of the Ingush in 1944.
Cambodia: deportation and extermination of the urban population of Cambodia.
China: the destruction of Tibetan culture.
The book, among other sources, used material from the (then) recently opened KGB files and other Soviet archives.
NO conflict here
An oldie but goodie
Looks like the Orange Revolution was short lived. Putin will be getting the Ukraine back this year.
Now, let's see what the putinists say.
Same in Serbia.
Older people remember communism, actualy only good things and not bad ones.
Horible is situation when we are opressed by Soros-Leftist in regime, communism didnt died, just transformed, and we miss strong conservative party. Primeminister Kostunica is conservative, but anti-Christianic liberals are getting stronger payed by Clintonians
Eww, that just isn't right. :O)
bump for later reading
(And Ukranians especially!)
50 is about 51.3.
Interesting correlation.
George Soros funded Ukraine's current president.
It's usually folks who's pension and benefits have been cut at a time when there is no way for them to recover.
I didn't know Marx was a Longhorn! ;-P
Akkkk, lol!
Another poll by Center "Sofia", sample 2000 people, albeit in Ukrainian: http://uv.ukranews.com/r6/rating/article.html?id=19591 , where the last question is "How would like to see Ukraine and Russia?"
16.8%- as any other foreign country, with visas, border guards, customs.
64.9%- Ukraine and Russia as independent but friendly nations, with visa-free travel.
16.1%- Russia, Ukraine one country.
2.2%- hard to tell.
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