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Gas Station Chain Fined For Selling Gas Too Cheaply
The Indy Channel ^ | February 27, 2006 | AP

Posted on 02/27/2006 11:34:30 AM PST by Abathar

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- The Minnesota Department of Commerce plans to fine a gas station chain for repeatedly selling gas below the state's legal minimum price.

The agency said it's fining Midwest Oil $140,000 for breaking a state formula based on wholesale prices, fees and taxes to determine a daily floor for gas prices.

Minnesota's price law was intended to prevent large oil companies from driving smaller competitors out of business -- but some critics argue it fails to protect consumers.

The Commerce Department says Midwest-owned stations in Anoka, Minn., Oakdale, Minn., and Albert Lea, Minn., sold gas below the minimum price on 293 days in 2005.

In previous cases, companies were fined anywhere from $500 to $70,000 for selling gas too cheaply.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; energy; gasoline; protectionism

1 posted on 02/27/2006 11:34:32 AM PST by Abathar
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To: Abathar

Is this Scrappleface?


2 posted on 02/27/2006 11:35:36 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Abathar

I believe if private industry did the same thing it would be called "collusion".


3 posted on 02/27/2006 11:36:00 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Abathar
but some critics argue it fails to protect consumers.

Ah, those crazy critics

4 posted on 02/27/2006 11:36:00 AM PST by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: SlowBoat407

How did that central planning thing work out for the Communists?


5 posted on 02/27/2006 11:38:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Abathar

I can kind of understand the socialist mindset in trying to establish price ceilings, but what are they thinking in setting price floors???


6 posted on 02/27/2006 11:39:11 AM PST by Always Right
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FINDING DEAL$ ON GA$OLINE:
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12 Month National Average for Regular Unleaded by AAA.com


Gas prices could fall with a TAX CUT, too!


7 posted on 02/27/2006 11:40:19 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Abathar

WTF???

Is this the U.S.???


9 posted on 02/27/2006 11:41:08 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Always Right
but what are they thinking in setting price floors???

I guess the idea is that it keeps the larger companies, which can absorb a loss in one location for a short time, from dropping prices below what the independents can charge, thus running them out of business. Once they're gone, the prices go up again.

10 posted on 02/27/2006 11:41:47 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Abathar; sure_fine

My head is going to explode; please pass the duct tape.


11 posted on 02/27/2006 11:42:13 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Culture™)
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To: Abathar
The agency said it's fining Midwest Oil $140,000 for breaking a state formula based on wholesale prices, fees and taxes to determine a daily floor for gas prices.
12 posted on 02/27/2006 11:43:32 AM PST by Horatio Gates (Yea, though I live in the valley of DUmmies, they will fear me for FR is with me)
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To: SlowBoat407

I wonder if it also affects the taxation of gas formula.

If it falls too low then you end up paying more in taxes than gasoline.


13 posted on 02/27/2006 11:45:00 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Abathar

And this is why I affectionately refer to my birth state as "The Great Socialist State of Minnesota."


14 posted on 02/27/2006 11:45:00 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: bobbdobbs
Socialists want to make all three illegal.

Want to? Sounds like they have.

15 posted on 02/27/2006 11:46:12 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Abathar

If I'm not mistaken, this protectionist law grew out of Wal-Marts and Sam's Clubs selling gasoline "below cost" (according to the old-guard competitors). Its purpose is to prevent the traditional gas stations from going broke.

Thankfully, it hasn't caught on around the nation.


16 posted on 02/27/2006 11:46:18 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Horatio Gates
"The agency said it's fining Midwest Oil $140,000 for breaking a state formula based on ****** taxes to determine a daily floor for gas prices."

Ding Ding Ding!!!
We have a winner!

17 posted on 02/27/2006 11:47:27 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Abathar
Added MN to the TOPICS list for our FRiends who monitor Minnesota news in the sidebar.

Instead of just scrolling past them all, please take a moment to click the applicable state on the Topics screen when posting news of local interest.

18 posted on 02/27/2006 11:48:22 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Redbob
WTF???
Is this the U.S.???


LOL!
The feds will use the Commerce Clause against the states over medical marijuana, but won't touch this tax gouging....


19 posted on 02/27/2006 11:54:09 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Abathar

This would explain why prices go up so quickly but take so long to come down.


20 posted on 02/27/2006 11:54:31 AM PST by kidd
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To: Redbob

Is this the U.S.???

No,this is nothing but International Banking..They own the business,set the price and you had darn well better pay your debt on time..!


21 posted on 02/27/2006 12:02:09 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: dfwgator
Well, it wasn't pretty, let me tell you.

I was taking a course in Soviet Constitutional and Legal History while in law school during the fall of 1991. There was a reading period of about a week, just before exams began in mid Decmber of that year. Between the last lecture and the final exam - the subject matter of the course went poof!

During those last weeks of the CCCP - I recall one stunning factoid quoted in an article in the New York TImes. Their Moscow correspondent was noticing the absurd contrasts between the expanding and increasingly above ground "black market" and the items which were still priced according to the central planning experts.

The quote that will remain with me as long as I have accessible brain cells is this: "The price of 5 quarts of fresh milk, imported from Finland and available on the black market - is now equal to the price of a one way ticket on Aeroflot from Moscow to Vladivostok, 13 time zones away."
22 posted on 02/27/2006 12:05:27 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Redbob

Not exactly. It's Minnesota.


23 posted on 02/27/2006 12:05:46 PM PST by MarxSux
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To: RexBeach
Is this Scrappleface?

Nope. This is Minnesota.

Minnesota tells the gas stations the minimum price they can charge for a gallon of gas.

24 posted on 02/27/2006 12:06:54 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: soccer_maniac
but some critics argue it fails to protect consumers.

How silly. It protects consumers from paying too little for gas. If they paid too little, they might get confused about what to do with the rest of their money.

25 posted on 02/27/2006 12:09:57 PM PST by VRWCmember (You are STILL safer hunting with Dick Cheney than riding in a car with Ted Kennedy!)
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To: Abathar

A law with the good intent of stopping monopolistic dumping now being used to hurt the consumer. Great.


26 posted on 02/27/2006 12:24:26 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Abathar

I've got it all figured out....them folks at the state house up there in Minnesota done went and got their brains frozed and come up with this here hare-brained idear of charging a minimum price for the poor folks to buy their gasoline. I reckon that's 'cause the people wouldn't know how to properly spend their excess cash savings on food and stuff like that, so the state of Minnesota gonna' hep 'em spend their money. Dang, you folks up there sure is really smart to think of that idear all on your own!! Whut dumass idear you got fur next week?


27 posted on 02/27/2006 1:23:10 PM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: bobbdobbs
Uff da!

You couldn't have said it better.

Classic Catch-22!

28 posted on 02/27/2006 3:33:57 PM PST by OnRightOnLeftCoast
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To: Abathar

Another fine example of Government sticking it's nose in where it has no business.


30 posted on 02/27/2006 4:21:10 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: longtermmemmory
I wonder if it also affects the taxation...

Folks the man has the answers. This is the same for govt be it gas or tobacco. They want their money.
31 posted on 02/27/2006 7:10:16 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Abathar
There is a reason Minnesota has the Loon as the state bird.
32 posted on 02/28/2006 9:06:10 PM PST by bulldozer
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