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In whose warped world is it wrong to honor a war hero?
Everett Herald ^ | 2-27-2006 | Larry Simoneaux

Posted on 02/27/2006 2:10:46 PM PST by MooseMan

I come late to this one, but I thought I'd add my two cents. There's been a bit of a dust up going on at the University of Washington. It's over a recent proposal to erect a monument there to honor Col. Greg "Pappy" Boyington. Col. Boyington was a Marine Corps pilot who commanded the "Black Sheep" squadron during some of the toughest fighting of World War II. He was credited with shooting down more than 20 Japanese aircraft before he, himself, was shot down and then spent almost two years as a prisoner of war. For his leadership, bravery and accomplishments in the war, he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. The uproar over the proposed monument came when the minutes of the Student Senate meeting were published and several statements made therein came to light. I'll not name the student senators making the following statements as, in the past week or so, they've already had their nonsense more than amply pointed out. I quote now from the minutes of the meeting: "XXXX questioned whether it was appropriate to honor a person who killed other people. She said she didn't believe a member of the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce." "YYYY commented that many monuments at UW already commemorate rich white men."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: nocongressionalinmoh; pappyboyington; usmc; uw; washington

1 posted on 02/27/2006 2:10:48 PM PST by MooseMan
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To: MooseMan
Q: "In whose warped world is it wrong to honor a war hero?"

A: Leftists, who seek the destruction of Western Civilization. Defenders are the enemy.

2 posted on 02/27/2006 2:13:58 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Prophet Muhammed, Piss Be Upon Him)
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To: MooseMan

Regrettably, for many of today's kids WWII is as ancient history as the Punic Wars.


3 posted on 02/27/2006 2:15:35 PM PST by cll
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To: MooseMan

Never hire a grad from this school - or Wisc, or Colo... A degree from such schools certifies you are an airhead.


4 posted on 02/27/2006 2:17:17 PM PST by Lexington Green (All your ports are belong to us.)
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To: MooseMan

Has anyone else heard that the student senators proposed a statue dedicated to Draft Dodgers? It was supposed to be a boy and girl in 60's period clothing running hand in hand. I don't recall the girls in High School worrying about having to register for the Draft.


5 posted on 02/27/2006 2:17:27 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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XXXX = Jill Edwards

YYYY = Ashley Miller

6 posted on 02/27/2006 2:19:19 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: MooseMan
Well that's it then - At this point it's not that Col Boyington's monument isn't welcome there, rather, they simply are not worthy enough to house the monument on their campus. And I'm not saying that all the UW students are like minded, but there are enough present withdraw the proposal and honor another place with the monument - one that can appreciate it's significance.

Let 'em make a shrine to Jane Fonda or something.

7 posted on 02/27/2006 2:19:28 PM PST by Sax
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To: Lexington Green

Now, now - speaking for Wisconsin, some of us managed to survive college and fight our way back to sanity!


8 posted on 02/27/2006 2:22:22 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: A.A. Cunningham
XXXX = Jill Edwards

YYYY = Ashley Miller


LOL!
9 posted on 02/27/2006 2:24:23 PM PST by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: MooseMan
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

A reflection of the complete lack of knowledge of not only the students in institutions of higher learning but their professors.
10 posted on 02/27/2006 2:24:54 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: Sax
She said she didn't believe a member of the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce.

Read: She said she didn't believe someone who demonstrates HONOR, BRAVERY, and LOVE OF COUNTRY was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce.

11 posted on 02/27/2006 2:27:57 PM PST by MooseMan (The new four-letter word at UW: USMC)
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To: MooseMan

Col. Greg "Pappy" Boyington by his own admission is an SOB. I can confirm that he is correct! As a 12 year old I managed to scrimp and save to attend a Confederate Air Force show in Harlingen Texas. He was there and has always been one of my Heros. I stood in line and tried to get his autograph on a Poster of an F4U Corsair. I got to the head of the line and he not so politley told me to bugger off! Unless I bought his book he wasn't signing anything...

When your Heros fall they fall hard!

All that said he is still one of my Heros ;-)


12 posted on 02/27/2006 2:37:29 PM PST by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: MooseMan
The same U of Washington netwit who objected to this probably will tell you proudly that John Kerry was a "war hero".

Hypocrites.
13 posted on 02/27/2006 2:59:39 PM PST by Fido969
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To: MooseMan

At this point it would be an insult to Col. Boyington to have his statue there.


14 posted on 02/27/2006 3:01:01 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Syntyr
" I got to the head of the line and he not so politley told me to bugger off! Unless I bought his book he wasn't signing anything..."

I'm having a little a little trouble digesting this one. Pappy wasn't drunk, was he? He did have a reputation as having a drinking problem, you know.

15 posted on 02/27/2006 3:13:55 PM PST by davisfh
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To: jazusamo

<<"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

A reflection of the complete lack of knowledge of not only the students in institutions of higher learning but their professors.>>


Hey hey now, some of us students have our heads on straight. Professors I will agree with you on.


16 posted on 02/27/2006 3:22:45 PM PST by gun_supporter
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To: davisfh

"I'm having a little a little trouble digesting this one. Pappy wasn't drunk, was he? He did have a reputation as having a drinking problem, you know."

Yep it happened. Summer 1982. He was setup outside the hanger at Harlingen AFB where they had the retail sales area inside it of it for memorbilia. They also a bunch of Nose Art there too. I remember as a young kid I was interested in that! Waited for over an hour and a half.

Not a clue. I was in front of him for maybe 15 seconds. I was so crestfallen I don't know.

On the upside I managed to get the ENTIRE crew of B-17 Enola Gay to sign my B17 poster. Including the pilot Paul Tibbets. So I didn't go away empty handed.


17 posted on 02/27/2006 3:33:49 PM PST by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: gun_supporter

I will eat a little crow on that, I definitely worded that poorly. I live in Washington and am too used to hearing of this type of reaction from students. And I ignored the fact that many conservative students are starting to fight back.


18 posted on 02/27/2006 3:37:54 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: Syntyr

All I can say is that I'm sorry for your bad experience. I would've thought better of him.


19 posted on 02/27/2006 3:44:44 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Syntyr
I got to the head of the line and he not so politley told me to bugger off! Unless I bought his book he wasn't signing anything...

That's a sad story.

On the upside I managed to get the ENTIRE crew of B-17 Enola Gay to sign my B17 poster. Including the pilot Paul Tibbets. So I didn't go away empty handed.

Wow, just WOW! I would trade my friends ride on Sentimental Journey (luck of the draw in his case, she was in Fort Worth for an air show....they asked for volunteers for crying out loud!!!!!) for that poster.....:)

20 posted on 02/27/2006 5:35:24 PM PST by ScreamingFist ( Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. NRA)
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To: davisfh

"All I can say is that I'm sorry for your bad experience. I would've thought better of him."

You know at the time I was taken aback but I thought about it later its not a big deal. It was just one of those moments in your life that remains crystal clear. He is still a Hero. Its just the whole dynamic of putting someone up on a pedestal and then being dissapointed when they fall. I am sure it happens a lot.

Pappy is famous for saying: "Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum." Its on the back of his book.

Besides He is still a personal hero :)


21 posted on 02/27/2006 6:24:27 PM PST by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: Syntyr
Pappy is famous for saying: "Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum." Its on the back of his book.

Perhaps that is what he thought of himself. And, if so, how sad that he thought this. It is unimaginable to me that a man of such accomplishments had such a low opinion of himself.

22 posted on 02/27/2006 7:14:10 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Lexington Green

Not so. I have a friend who works for NOAA who got his BS and MS from Udub. He's a very smart guy.

Unfortunately, he's also a liberal. But he is no airhead.


23 posted on 02/27/2006 7:16:59 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: cll

Were I in a position as a personell director for a large corporation, I think I would just exclude any applicants who had graduated from this particular istitution of lower learning.


24 posted on 02/27/2006 7:29:58 PM PST by stumpy
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To: MooseMan

What I am saying is that the fact that some at UW don't want it is irrelevant when the overriding fact is that they don't deserve it. It doesn't matter a rat's butt about what they want when they don't deserve.


25 posted on 02/28/2006 5:12:10 AM PST by Sax
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To: Syntyr
On the upside I managed to get the ENTIRE crew of B-17 Enola Gay to sign my B17 poster. Including the pilot Paul Tibbets. So I didn't go away empty handed.

That would be a B-29

26 posted on 02/28/2006 5:25:16 AM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: jslade

"That would be a B-29"

Indeed! Opps you are correct!


27 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:10 AM PST by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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