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Chicago, Houston Consider Cameras in Private Businesses, Homes
HumanEventsOnline.com ^ | Feb 28, 2006 | James Plummer

Posted on 02/28/2006 8:02:23 AM PST by boryeulb

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To: PretzeLogic

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41 posted on 02/28/2006 10:10:06 AM PST by hobson
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To: Flyer

Who is the keeper of the Houston ping list?


43 posted on 02/28/2006 10:11:58 AM PST by hobson
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To: Vicomte13

I agree... Americans don't have it in them. I read somewhere that only 4% of all Americans participated openly in the American Revolution until victory seemed assured. I think it is always like that; the 4% willing to die for freedom, and the rest who will take any amount of oppression because it comes from legitimate authority and will simply march right into the "Mandatory Population Reduction Centers".


44 posted on 02/28/2006 10:15:07 AM PST by LambSlave (The truth will set you free)
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To: boryeulb

Oh this article just reminded me: time to buy more ammo.


45 posted on 02/28/2006 10:16:50 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: LambSlave

I don't think they'll go so far as to accept death, at least not en masse. But they won't defy, or advocate defiance of, the law when it's a few people being rounded up and killed by the many.

Think carefully about the Terri Schiavo case.
Millions of people said she was being MURDERED.
But when it came down to it, nobody was willing to actually ATTACK the authorities to stop the murder of an innocent woman. Was it because she was disabled?

There are millions others who think abortion is MURDER. But they oppose any sort of lawlessness to suppress it.

Now think about the Lynching Era, from the 1880s to the 1910s, when every other day someone in America was lynched, generally publicly, often with great fanfare (official photographers and postcards). There were plenty of people outraged, and motions were put before Congress. But in the end, nobody was willing to turn loose force on the local authorities.

Think carefully, even, about Hitler. Americans were willing to let Hitler devour Europe, including England, and kill whomever he wanted to. It was only a direct Japanese attack and a German declaration of war that finally forced the Americans to act.

Philosophically, Law and the Rule of Law is the very pinnacle of American moral values. Respect for the law supersedes obedience to the tenets even of religion. It's an extraordinary feature of American culture, which certainly does make America a very good place to do business: in obedience to their law, Americans will gun people down in order to protect your duly documented and recorded property rights; they'll evict people from their homes of 70 years if you have a court order that lets you develop their land for your own private business purposes, even if you're French.

Lex dura, sed lex.


46 posted on 02/28/2006 10:27:02 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: boryeulb
Under the plan, private businesses that remain open more than 12 hours a day and bars that remain open until last call would have to install the cameras also.

Doesn't every bar serve until last call? Even if you close at 9:00 PM you would serve until last call, right?

If I owned a business that had to operate under these rules, I would:
Close for 5 minutes every 11 hours and 55 minutes for a regular business and;
Stop serving at my bar without calling "last call"

This way I would be exempt.

47 posted on 02/28/2006 10:31:59 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: Vicomte13

I should have put a sarcasm tag on the last part; I believe your statements are all very accurate. As long as it does not affect them directly, en masse they will complain but not act. The Terri Schiavo case and abortion mills are excellent examples, as are Ruby Ridge and Waco.


48 posted on 02/28/2006 10:38:05 AM PST by LambSlave (The truth will set you free)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
If this goes through in the chicago or houston area I will move out of the country and not come back and unlike the balwins i actually havethe courage of my convictions

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49 posted on 02/28/2006 10:52:01 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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50 posted on 02/28/2006 10:53:27 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Richard Kimball
When I'm taking a cr*p, I'm not doing anything wrong, but I don't want to be camcorded. Got it?

Well personally i think you need to rethink that a little if this passes you need to be willing to take a cr*p on camera every day and i dont mean be in front of the camera and take a cr*p i mean squat above the camera and takea cr*p on it each and every day until its not functional any more

51 posted on 02/28/2006 10:57:44 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
In the long run, they will use the fear of terrorism or anti-drug hysteria to accomplish everything they desire.
52 posted on 02/28/2006 10:58:05 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: boryeulb

Lots of businesses employ cameras in and on their premises. I'd think that apartment complexes would have been using them long ago to catch vandals, theives, etc on their property. They use controlled access now.

Individual homes becomes another matter when dictated by the police.


53 posted on 02/28/2006 11:00:42 AM PST by deport
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To: deport
Lots of businesses employ cameras in and on their premises.

At THEIR discretion with THEIR cameras.

54 posted on 02/28/2006 11:01:49 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

ping for later


55 posted on 02/28/2006 11:07:17 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: freepatriot32
"I will move out of the country and not come back"

I'm afraid you may want to start looking now. BsAs
56 posted on 02/28/2006 11:09:05 AM PST by ndt
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To: Know your rights

At THEIR discretion with THEIR cameras.



Yep, way it is and way it ought to be.


57 posted on 02/28/2006 11:09:25 AM PST by deport
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To: Gabz
Kelo Decision, smoking bans on private property.

Drip,drip, drip.

Cameras are the next logical step.

The word hasn't been invented yet to describe the depth of loathing I have for these tyrants.

58 posted on 02/28/2006 11:09:59 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
Doesn't every bar serve until last call? Even if you close at 9:00 PM you would serve until last call, right?

Right.

Nice catch.

59 posted on 02/28/2006 11:11:22 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: mysterio
In WWII, a train full of Jews on the way to one of the camps broke down. A half dozen German guards walked 10,000 people the rest of the way and none tried to escape.
60 posted on 02/28/2006 11:14:15 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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