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THATCHER: DOLPHINS COULD HUNT LOCH NESS MONSTER
Mirror ^ | 16 January 2006 | Mark Smith

Posted on 02/28/2006 12:58:07 PM PST by presidio9

A NESSIE hunt using a team of dolphins was planned by the Tory government, according to declassified secret documents.

Within days of the 1979 election, officials in Margaret Thatcher's regime proposed importing the mammals from America and fitting them with hi-tech equipment to scour Loch Ness.

Despite opposition from animal rights groups, it was argued that finding the monster would benefit local tourism.

A letter from Environment Department civil servant David Waymouth to Stewart Walker at the Scottish Home and Health Department, showed the Government wanted a licence to initiate the plan.

It stated: "This department is presently considering the issue of a licence to import two bottle-nosed dolphins from America for the purpose of exploring Loch Ness.

"Inquiries have been made with the mammal experts on the Scientific Authority for Animals and their advice is that there are no conservation or welfare reasons for refusing a licence.

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"Clearly, however, there are other factors, mainly political, that you might wish to consider before the licence is issued."

The National Archive of Scotland contains no record of a response to the letter, which was released under the Freedom of Information Act.

However, Adrian Shine, a naturalist who has been investigating the Loch Ness mystery for several decades, said he believed the dolphin plan was the brainchild of veteran monster hunter Dr Robert Rines.

Dr Rines was the founder of the American-based Academy of Applied Science who took a now-famous underwater photograph in 1972, which appeared to show a large flipper in the loch.

The Academy of Applied Science in New Hampshire confirmed that dolphins were being trained with mini cameras and strobe lights that would have been activated if they encountered any large objects.

Last week, it was revealed that civil servants made plans to give Nessie legal protection from poachers and bounty hunters in the early 80s.

The plan was instigated when the Swedish government asked for help to preserve their equivalent, the Storsjo monster.

UK officials then realised there was nothing to stop a trophy hunter from tracking down the beast and killing her.

It was eventually decided that Nessie should be protected as part of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, rather than specific legislation.

Under the provisions of the Act it is illegal to snare, shoot or blow up the monster.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 02/28/2006 12:58:08 PM PST by presidio9
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To: pcottraux

Anybody who enjoys stories like this should contact pcottraux.


2 posted on 02/28/2006 1:00:12 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9

Hell, why not just send in Bat Boy in scuba gear?


3 posted on 02/28/2006 1:01:58 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: presidio9
Something to do during the off-season, I suppose...
4 posted on 02/28/2006 1:02:15 PM PST by mikrofon (Squish the Fish)
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To: presidio9

How does a salt water mammal take to a fresh water lake?


5 posted on 02/28/2006 1:02:20 PM PST by tigtog
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To: presidio9

Just call Ace Ventura.


6 posted on 02/28/2006 1:03:05 PM PST by wireman
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To: tigtog

Some species swim in fresh water


7 posted on 02/28/2006 1:03:40 PM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: presidio9
Loch ness is salt water? I thought dolphins needed salt water?? Who do you suppose that would of worked??
8 posted on 02/28/2006 1:04:02 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: mikrofon

Haha. Nice one.


9 posted on 02/28/2006 1:05:52 PM PST by Hexenhammer ( Oregon: She dies by her own prescriptions)
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To: tigtog

...it is Friday yet?

10 posted on 02/28/2006 1:06:05 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: presidio9

Never mind, I see 7...


11 posted on 02/28/2006 1:06:30 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: SlowBoat407

Simpler: pull the plug at the bottom and drain the lake. Whatever monsters are there would be deposited on the bottom, right next to rusty supermarket carts, old tires and other garbage. Later, the lake might be cleaned up and refilled, if necessary.


12 posted on 02/28/2006 1:07:03 PM PST by GSlob
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To: presidio9

Mabye Loch Ness Monsters like the taste of dolphin...


13 posted on 02/28/2006 1:08:08 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: presidio9

Can I get some lasers on their head? All I want I some frikin' dolphins with lasers on their head? Is that so much to ask for?


14 posted on 02/28/2006 1:08:42 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: wireman

Just remember, "Laces out!"


15 posted on 02/28/2006 1:09:04 PM PST by Paulus
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To: GSlob

As any intelligent person knows, the only legitimate reason for draining a lake is if there might be snakehead fish in it.


16 posted on 02/28/2006 1:10:28 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9

well, Plan B was..take back the Falklands..


17 posted on 02/28/2006 1:10:49 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: presidio9

It seems that earlier this week there was a reported sighting of "Champ", the weird yet elusive beastie that is supposed to lurk in the depths of Lake Champlain, between NY State and Michigan (I think ?).

Perhaps they can train those dolphins in Lake Champlain to see if they can turn up anything before shipping them off to Scotland.

These critters may be so much myth; but even so, you won't catch me scuba diving in either Lake Champlain OR Loch Ness!


18 posted on 02/28/2006 1:11:46 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: Paulus

FInkel is Einhorn? Einhorn is Finkel!!! Einhorn is a M..........AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


19 posted on 02/28/2006 1:11:58 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: presidio9
Under the provisions of the Act it is illegal to snare, shoot or blow up the monster.

So harpooning would be okay?

Reminds me of a joke...

A hiker was lost in the woods for several days. After a while, he managed to kill a bald eagle and was in the process of cooking and eating it when some rangers came upon him. They promptly arrested him for harming a protected species.

He went to court and explained to the judge, "Your honor, I was starving - had nothing to eat for three days, and it was a matter of survival - I had to eat whatever I could and I just happened to get lucky and kill the eagle.
The judge felt sorry for the hiker and let him off without any penalties.

Just as the hiker was getting up to leave the courtroom, the judge asked, "By the way... what did the Bald Eagle taste like?"
The hiker replied, "Oh, something between a Spotted Owl and Whooping Crane - but just a bit greasy like California Condor."


20 posted on 02/28/2006 1:12:58 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Uncle Jaque

Average water temperature of Loch Ness is 50F.


21 posted on 02/28/2006 1:13:32 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9

Clinton found Bigfoot and made her Attorney General.


22 posted on 02/28/2006 1:14:08 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Uncle Jaque

Vermont, not Michigan


23 posted on 02/28/2006 1:15:50 PM PST by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: presidio9

I can just see old NEssie now:

"Hmm what's this swimming around (chomp)! tastes like chicken!-urp!)


24 posted on 02/28/2006 1:18:18 PM PST by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: presidio9
Flipper's Patriotic Grandson
25 posted on 02/28/2006 1:19:04 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: dead

"Last week, Japanese scientists explaced... placed explosive detonators at the bottom of Lake Loch Ness to blow Nessie out of the water. Sir Godfrey of the Nessie Alliance summoned the help of Scotland's local wizards to cast a protective spell over the lake and its local residents and all those who seek for the peaceful existence of our underwater ally."

26 posted on 02/28/2006 1:19:12 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: TexasCajun

27 posted on 02/28/2006 1:21:17 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: presidio9
Confound it, presidio9, you done gone & took my idea.

But still, good work & keep up the talent.

28 posted on 02/28/2006 1:22:24 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: presidio9

LOL! I'll bet you're pretty good with a bow staff.


29 posted on 02/28/2006 1:23:26 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: presidio9

There isn't a LNM ... the photo was faked. The guy who took it admitted so just before he died ... same thing like Bigfoot ... guy was dressed up in a furry coat ...


30 posted on 02/28/2006 1:27:50 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: dead

It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic. It's pretty much my favorite animal.

31 posted on 02/28/2006 1:28:42 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9; Angelas; Idisarthur; Hegemony Cricket; A knight without armor; new cruelty; SunkenCiv; ..
I'm pleased with this young ping list: it just keeps growing and growing.

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32 posted on 02/28/2006 1:31:12 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: sit-rep

Maybe they put the dolphin in a scuba suit ? ;-)


33 posted on 02/28/2006 1:34:40 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: tigtog
"How does a salt water mammal take to a fresh water lake?"

It's not like they breathe through gills. They breathe through a blowhole when they surface.

34 posted on 02/28/2006 1:34:58 PM PST by Godebert
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To: SkyDancer
There isn't a LNM ... the photo was faked. The guy who took it admitted so just before he died ... same thing like Bigfoot ... guy was dressed up in a furry coat ...

What you are trying to say is that those two cases were hoaxes. Both animals were reported long before either photo surfaced. It is 99% likely that Nessie has died or no longer existed, but it is unwise to ignore reports comletely. The coelacanth, the saola and the giant squid are all examples of large animals discovered in the 20th century that were long rumored to exist but understood to be mythical by "serious" scientists.

35 posted on 02/28/2006 1:35:21 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: mikrofon

That's about all Ricky Williams is qualified for these days.


36 posted on 02/28/2006 1:35:22 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: SkyDancer
Not true. The infamous LNM photo was fake, but that doesn't mean there ISN'T a LNM. Probably hundreds of photos, videos, etc. have been taken not only of the Loch Ness Monster, but of other alleged lake monsters all across the UK and even North America. There have also been thousands of reported sightings going back even to the Mideivel ages.

same thing like Bigfoot ... guy was dressed up in a furry coat ...

That is also very much untrue. No one has ever been able to debunk the Patterson footage (which you're referring to). In fact, some experts who have analyzed it have even said that the creature's gate, walking, etc. COULDN'T have been faked because no human could walk that way, even if they tried.
37 posted on 02/28/2006 1:36:02 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: presidio9
fitting them with hi-tech equipment to scour Loch Ness

Would they be outfitted with freeken laser beams?

38 posted on 02/28/2006 1:37:41 PM PST by faq (BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHAHA)
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To: Onelifetogive
LOL. or at least some ill-tempered sea bass for a start.
39 posted on 02/28/2006 1:37:44 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9

Your Current Event Napolean


40 posted on 02/28/2006 1:41:17 PM PST by antihannityguy (When they come for your guns give them the ammo first)
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To: Uncle Jaque

Champy's in Vermont.


41 posted on 02/28/2006 1:43:13 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Bon mots
"Mabye Loch Ness Monsters like the taste of dolphin..."

I've heard they demand tuna-free dolphin.

42 posted on 02/28/2006 1:55:10 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: presidio9
Why? If there IS a "Nessie" who cares honestly? The damn thing has lived this long and people with too much friggin' free time won't leave it alone.

They'll end up killing it just to prove it was there then feel bad about it. If it's there leave it the hell alone.

43 posted on 02/28/2006 2:01:07 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: pcottraux

I don't believe in aliens, but I could be convinced about Ness and Bigfoot and the Abominable Snowman. :)


44 posted on 02/28/2006 2:06:45 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: presidio9

Did they pay him the "threefitty?" (Chef's parents from South Park)


45 posted on 02/28/2006 2:09:02 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Politicalmom

I actually agree with you 100%. You don't meet many people that don't believe in aliens. Not that I don't believe that there's any life out there, but I don't believe intelligent life has found it's way from space to Earth.


46 posted on 02/28/2006 2:12:37 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Politicalmom

The existence of the Abominable Snowman is beyond dispute. Here's a picture taken by Yukon Cornelius.

47 posted on 02/28/2006 2:13:03 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9

bump


48 posted on 02/28/2006 2:16:26 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: presidio9

(I happen to know that he is really a Bumble. Did you know Bumbles bounce?)


49 posted on 02/28/2006 2:31:05 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: pcottraux

There is a really good documentary on the search for Nessie. I am sure you have seen it. I can't find the DVD with the name on it.....


50 posted on 02/28/2006 2:32:26 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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