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At 75, Gorbachev Laments U.S. 'Arrogance' (Boy, does he sound like Carter, or what?)
ABC ^ | 3/1/06 | VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

Posted on 03/01/2006 11:41:38 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Gorbachev, Who Turns 75 Thursday, Says End of Cold War Only Strengthened U.S. 'Arrogance'

MOSCOW - Mikhail Gorbachev's magnetic brown eyes shine as brightly as ever, and he speaks with the same passion about the collapse of the Soviet Union as he prepares to mark his 75th birthday on Thursday.

The man who ended the Cold War and launched democratic reforms that broke the repressive Soviet regime continues to enjoy the limelight, globe-trotting on behalf of his political foundation and environmental group and taking part in charity projects.

At a meeting with foreign reporters this week, Gorbachev blamed the United States for losing a chance to build a safer and more stable world following the Soviet demise.

"Ending the Cold War was given as a gift" to the United States, but it only strengthened its arrogance and unilateralism, he said. "The winner's complex is worse than an inferiority complex, because it's harder to cure."

While praised worldwide, Gorbachev has been reviled at home, where a majority of Russians hold him responsible for the Soviet breakup and subsequent economic chaos that impoverished millions.

He won a mere 1 percent of the vote in the 1996 presidential election; he hasn't run since.

Many still accuse him of caving in to the West. Anatoly Utkin, a senior researcher with the U.S. and Canada Institute, chastised Gorbachev for drastically cutting Soviet nuclear arsenals and agreeing to Germany's reunification without getting anything in return.

"Gorbachev didn't know the West. And the West didn't trust the nobility of his motives and coldly used him," Utkin said in a column in the weekly Argumenty i Fakty.

Gorbachev's record as a man who gave freedom to his land also was tarnished by some darker pages.

One was his handling of the 1986 reactor explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear plant, which the Soviet leadership announced to the world only after scientists in Sweden detected a radioactive fallout.

Gorbachev insisted the Kremlin just didn't know the scope of the disaster, but many claim the Soviet leadership deliberately downplayed its gravity.

He is also blamed for a Soviet troop crackdown on demonstrators in Lithuania in 1991 that killed 14 and injured nearly 1,000.

Gorbachev said the troops were sent against the protesters in Vilnius on a secret KGB order of which he was unaware a claim his foes shrugged off as improbable.

Gorbachev still bristles when he talks about the betrayal by his communist lieutenants who launched the August 1991 coup that briefly ousted him. The coup collapsed within days, encouraging the Soviet republics to declare independence and shattering Gorbachev's hopes of keeping them together in a looser federation.

Former Russian President Boris Yeltsin, who celebrated his 75th birthday in February, recently accused Gorbachev of having advance knowledge of the coup and waiting it out to see who would win.

"Yeltsin is a liar," Gorbachev snapped, rejecting the allegation as "sheer nonsense."

Looking back at the turmoil that preceded his resignation, Gorbachev says he has never regretted his refusal to turn to military force to prevent the Soviet collapse. He said that sometimes his "hands were itching" to use force, but he realized that could have led to a civil war and even a global nuclear conflict.

Gorbachev said this week that while he could have ended Yeltsin's political career easily by dispatching him as ambassador to a distant country, he didn't do so because such a move would compromise his principles.

Yeltsin humiliated Gorbachev by giving him just a few hours to clear out of the presidential office after he signed the Soviet Union out of existence on Dec. 25, 1991. He never invited him to the Kremlin afterward.

Gorbachev's relations with the Kremlin have seen a marked improvement under Vladimir Putin, whom he has praised repeatedly for ending the political chaos and economic decline of Yeltsin's era.

Despite his age, Gorbachev seems as lively and energetic as before, giving the impression of genuinely enjoying life. "I like good dishes from all over the world. I have tasted them all and I still can't name a favorite," he said.

He rarely touches a fiction book, but reads a lot of history, philosophy and political science.

"I also watch a lot of movies, mostly on TV. I have gotten sick of (American) blockbusters and love Russian movies," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
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I can see it: Anti-America-Palooza World Tour 2006

Gorbachev, Carter, Chavez, Castro, Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong Il, Howard Dean, Belafonte, Sheehan, Moore, and ... Well you can add to the list.

1 posted on 03/01/2006 11:41:40 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I'll tell you what 'arrogance' is. Ordering the massacre of Lithuanians for daring to want independance from the Soviet Union. Which is precisely what Gorby did.


2 posted on 03/01/2006 11:44:10 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
"Ending the Cold War was given as a gift" to the United States

Oh, is that right, Ink Stain?

3 posted on 03/01/2006 11:44:34 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

That mark on his head must be The Gulag Archipelago..


4 posted on 03/01/2006 11:44:41 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Yes, it would be much better if the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc still existed, so Americans wouldn't be so "arrogant."

Of course, France, Germany and the rest of Old Europe couldn't be so arrogant, either. They'd still have to kiss our rearends.


5 posted on 03/01/2006 11:44:52 AM PST by rightinthemiddle ("Hindsight is not wisdom, and second guessing is not a strategy.")
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To: dfwgator
Ordering the massacre of Lithuanians for daring to want independance from the Soviet Union

There you go injecting facts into it.

Gorby's got feeeeeeelings, ya know!

6 posted on 03/01/2006 11:45:40 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Gorbachev played a major role in the ending of the Cold War. He was the loser. The loser. The loser. How much credit is he supposed to get because he admitted defeat? Answer: the media and other liberals always play up his role because they can't admit President Ronald Reagan was the winner.
7 posted on 03/01/2006 11:47:13 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
"The man who ended the Cold War"

Hey VLADIMIR...that would be Reagan, you turd.

8 posted on 03/01/2006 11:47:26 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
"The man who ended the Cold War..."

Once again, the LSM gives Gorby the credit which is solely due RR.

9 posted on 03/01/2006 11:47:26 AM PST by Corporate Law (<>< Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
The man who ended lost the Cold War and launched cosmetic democratic reforms that broketried to maintain the repressive Soviet regime ...

There, I fixed a few typos.

10 posted on 03/01/2006 11:47:31 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Next Olympics I want wide track bobsledding. Four sleds on the track at once - like Ben Hur on ice.)
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To: Puppage
While praised worldwide, Gorbachev has been reviled at home, where a majority of Russians hold him responsible for the Soviet breakup and subsequent economic chaos that impoverished millions.


Sounds a lot like Carter? No?
11 posted on 03/01/2006 11:48:17 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Winning the Cold War was NOT a gift. It was earned.


12 posted on 03/01/2006 11:50:05 AM PST by plain talk
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
(Boy, does he sound like Carter, or what?)

Or what. I'd say he sounds more like Clinton desperately trying to salvage his legacy, only for Gorby it is much more of an uphill climb. The Toon just lost nuclear secrets to China and Gorby lost the whole shebang.

13 posted on 03/01/2006 11:50:29 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("If I were a Cuban, I'd certainly be on a raft," Isane Aparicio Busto)
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To: NonValueAdded

Hey, when you take down your greatest enemy without firing a shot you have a right to be arrogant. Conversely, loosing an empire without firing a shot gives you the right to be humble. Try being humble Ink Stain, you of all people have reason to be so.


14 posted on 03/01/2006 11:54:49 AM PST by tigtog
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
...And? He did the same thing at 55, and at 45...

Anyone else remember him accusing Reagan of "egoistic dictat"? (Yeah, that stung, after being completely lost in translation).

Guess there's no fool like an old fool.

15 posted on 03/01/2006 11:54:56 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

What can you expect from a disgruntled old leftist like Gorbachev? He's just pissed the US bested the USSR in the Cold War and worse, it all came in on them during his watch. He's just another dime-a-dozen "jealous of America's success" Eurotrash America basher. Who cares what this marginalized old has-been commie apparatchik thinks?


16 posted on 03/01/2006 11:55:23 AM PST by MikeA (New York owes America an apology for Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer)
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To: NonValueAdded
Or what. I'd say he sounds more like Clinton desperately trying to salvage his legacy, only for Gorby it is much more of an uphill climb. The Toon just lost nuclear secrets to China and Gorby lost the whole shebang.

On the plus side for Russia, it doesn't have the looming threat of Raisa Gorbachev's possible election to give another socialist kick to the country. On the other hand, we still have the Wicked Witch of Chappaqua to fear.

17 posted on 03/01/2006 11:56:26 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Next Olympics I want wide track bobsledding. Four sleds on the track at once - like Ben Hur on ice.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

"The man who ended the Cold War" the same way the Seahawks ended the Super Bowl.


18 posted on 03/01/2006 11:58:13 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
While I was still a young pup, someone wrote a question to Parade magazine longingly asking what it would take for Gorby to be President of the U.S.A.. Even back then I had to say, WTF.
19 posted on 03/01/2006 11:59:16 AM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Sounds to me like old Gorby's still bitter about the whole "losing the Cold War" thing...


20 posted on 03/01/2006 11:59:32 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

The man who ended the Cold War and launched democratic reforms that broke the repressive Soviet regime ...still can't get it correct, can they?


21 posted on 03/01/2006 12:00:25 PM PST by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
>>>>The man who ended the Cold War ....

President Reagan won the Cold War, and through his great leadership dismantled the Soviet Empire and the communist Eastern Bloc, freeing 500 million people from totalitarian rule.

Mikhail Gorbachev is a phony, a fraud and STILL, a communist.

22 posted on 03/01/2006 12:04:23 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
(Boy, does he sound like Carter, or what?)

Yeah, but at least the @sswipe loser admits that he's a Communist.

23 posted on 03/01/2006 12:05:23 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Arrogant? Us? P.J. O'Rourke doesn't think so. Now wipe yer dang feet, chump.
24 posted on 03/01/2006 12:08:27 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Corporate Law
"The man who ended the Cold War..."

Yeah, like Karl Doenitz ended World War II in Europe. (For those who don't know, Adolf Hitler selected Doenitz to become head of state after his suicide on 30th April, 1945. After forming a new government he negotiated Germany's surrender on 8th May). Inkstain's role wasn't very much different.

25 posted on 03/01/2006 12:09:15 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Gorbachev propagated evil, knowing it was evil.
ABC news is just as bad as CBS and NYT - progating a puff-piece that hides the true Gorby we all knew.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 12:11:51 PM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

""Ending the Cold War was given as a gift" to the United States, but it only strengthened its arrogance and unilateralism, he said. "The winner's complex is worse than an inferiority complex, because it's harder to cure.""

Gorby destroyed the USSR, thank you, but we are not going to take advance on how to build a nation from a loser.


27 posted on 03/01/2006 12:19:12 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Gorby has a gorbasim. Prolly rues for the day when he was in charge. Kind of like Algore!


28 posted on 03/01/2006 12:19:41 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775 (I)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Why is it that it is the failures of history that make the most noise?
29 posted on 03/01/2006 12:21:53 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

advance=advice

My fingers are faster then my mind.


30 posted on 03/01/2006 12:22:44 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Soros, Kennedy, Durbin, Reid, Schumer, Pelosi, Streisand, Clooney, Meathead...


31 posted on 03/01/2006 12:30:40 PM PST by Inwoodian
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
The man who ended the Cold War.....

Another Gorbasm. I wouldn't call the person who surrenders the one who ended things. Give credit to the one who caused the surrender.

Long live Ronald Wilson Reagan!

32 posted on 03/01/2006 12:32:58 PM PST by admiralsn (I believe God gives only three answers to prayer: Yes | Not yet | I have something better in mind)
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To: dfwgator
I'll tell you what 'arrogance' is. Ordering the massacre of Lithuanians for daring to want independance from the Soviet Union. Which is precisely what Gorby did.

While he's off on the arrogance part, he is right about us spoiling the chance we were given. The people of the Soviet Union appeared to actually be happy with us...but we then elected a President who - while paying a lot of lip service - had a foreign policy that consisted mostly of screwing around (And I don't mean Monica). He offered them a whole lot of bad advice as well, since he didn't understand the economics he was peddling (even if he did present a rather more capitalist view to them than he peddled here).

33 posted on 03/01/2006 12:37:32 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: KarlInOhio
There, I fixed a few typos.

Quite correctly, I think. :)

34 posted on 03/01/2006 12:38:41 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Corporate Law
Once again, the LSM gives Gorby the credit which is solely due RR.

And Carter had everything turning in the right direction that all Reagan had to do was go along for the ride Carter created of a wonderful economy and world peace.

Hey, if the writer of this knee-pad bit of journalism is going to shovel it, he might as well shovel it with a BIG shovel.

35 posted on 03/01/2006 12:43:47 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Corporate Law
Once again, the LSM gives Gorby the credit which is solely due RR.

And Carter had everything turning in the right direction that all Reagan had to do was go along for the ride Carter created of a wonderful economy and world peace.

Hey, if the writer of this knee-pad bit of journalism is going to shovel it, he might as well shovel it with a BIG shovel.

36 posted on 03/01/2006 12:43:49 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
All these BITTER, IRRELEVANThas-beens piping up.
37 posted on 03/01/2006 12:46:24 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Al Gore, Sean Penn, George Clooney, Bill Maher and several others will be on the same roller coaster to the hottest cauldrons in hell.


38 posted on 03/01/2006 12:48:07 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume (If you attack me because I am a Christian, then you are miserably failing in life.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

The average academic, leftist lunatic probably thinks Gorbachev is a hero. Go to Harvard, Yale, Columbia, or Univ.of Anywhere and the faculty will say Bush and Reagan are evil, but communist butchers are somehow "pure".


39 posted on 03/01/2006 12:52:10 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
The man who ended the Cold War...

I think Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul had a thing or two to do with that. Gorby reacted to the economic and military pressure applied by the West and recognized that the Soviet Union could not spend itself into the ground trying to keep up. He did the only thing he could do - there was no master plan on Gorby's part.

Typical MSM Gorbasm.
40 posted on 03/01/2006 1:02:30 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

It's a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it.


41 posted on 03/01/2006 1:03:38 PM PST by onedoug
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

this guy should be brought up on war crimes not given money to spread his bitter BS around.


42 posted on 03/01/2006 8:01:49 PM PST by KOZ.
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Add Putin and the President of China to that list.


43 posted on 03/01/2006 8:45:05 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: lizol; Stellar Dendrite; Tailgunner Joe

"Gorbachev said the troops were sent against the protesters in Vilnius on a secret KGB order of which he was unaware a claim his foes shrugged off as improbable"

I bet that Putin knows something about this


44 posted on 03/01/2006 8:45:49 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: RockinRight

Gorby and Putin have been close lately, but behind the scenes.


45 posted on 03/01/2006 8:47:25 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Gorby is simply a failurer and a fool, this explains all he did, said and what he keeps on saying.


46 posted on 03/02/2006 1:49:26 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: N. Theknow

I think that LSM spin will come when Carter passes on. I wonder if I can lay a bet on that in Vegas.


47 posted on 03/02/2006 6:18:55 AM PST by Corporate Law (<>< Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Putin and Gorbachev shaking hands.

48 posted on 03/02/2006 9:20:15 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
There's plenty of photos of Gorbachev shaking hands with folks:

49 posted on 03/02/2006 9:25:45 AM PST by x5452
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