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McCain Still Trying To Gag Gun Owners From Criticizing His Anti-gun Record
Gun Owners of America ^ | February 28, 2006 | NA

Posted on 03/01/2006 12:23:21 PM PST by neverdem

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Feb 2006

McCain Still Trying To Gag Gun Owners From Criticizing His Anti-gun Record

Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585

Tuesday, February 28, 2006

A few weeks ago, we alerted you to legislation -- introduced by anti-gun Senator John McCain (R-AZ) -- which is aimed at squelching the First Amendment rights of grassroots groups like Gun Owners of America.

That bill, S. 2128, is ostensibly aimed at dealing with some of the congressional controversies that have hit the media in recent weeks. A true reform bill would focus the spotlight on members like John McCain, who was one of the original Keating Five senators who were deeply implicated in the savings and loan scandal.

Instead, McCain began his war on real transparency in 2002 when he teamed up with anti-gun Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) to push the Incumbent Protection Act into law -- an act that stifles the ability of organizations like GOA to criticize elected officials before an election.

Now with the Gag Act (S. 2128), McCain wants to target his wrath on groups like GOA -- requiring them to register their "grassroots" communications and to file twice as many frivolous reports.

If McCain succeeds in pushing an expansive interpretation of his bill (as he did when he convinced the courts to regulate the Internet under McCain-Feingold), then we could see a host of draconian restrictions affecting both GOA and you.

For example, if we wanted to alert you to gun ban that is moving in our nation's capital, we could first have to tell McCain (and all his other buddies in Congress) about what we're planning to do, who we're planning to alert (that is, grassroots folks like yourself), how much money we plan to spend, etc.

Because of Section 105 in this bill, everyone with whom GOA contracts to get the word out (advertisers, printers, etc.) could be required to tell Congress twenty days in advance about GOA's public information campaign.

In effect, we would end up alerting Sarah Brady every time we plan to wage a grassroots campaign in opposition to gun control.

This is ridiculous!

No doubt, the Gag Act is further proof that grassroots lobbying works. It works so well, that John McCain wants to muzzle it.

S. 2128 -- or a bill that is similar to it -- is now likely to come to the floor of the Senate in early March, according to Majority Leader Bill Frist. It is imperative that we contact our Senators today.

ACTION:

1. Please urge your Senators to oppose the Gag Act (S. 2128). And, if your Senator has cosponsored the bill, then he or she especially needs to hear from you. Senators who have cosponsored this bill are:

Conrad Burns (R-MT)
Norm Coleman (R-MN)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)

You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators a pre-written e-mail message such as the one below.

2. Take action and then please forward this alert to your pro-gun friends and family!

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

Now that the Senate is looking to pass so-called lobbying reform legislation, I hope you will NOT support any bill that would gag grassroots lobbying organizations.

To be sure, John McCain's bill (S. 2128) would do just that!

In 2002, Senators McCain and Feingold teamed up to pass the Incumbent Protection Act, a bill that infringes upon the First Amendment rights of gun owners and other Americans by squelching their ability to criticize elected officials before an election.

Now, Senator McCain wants to pass the Gag Act (S. 2128). In this latest version, McCain targets his wrath on grassroots organizations -- requiring them to register their "grassroots" communications with their members and to file twice as many frivolous reports.

Please oppose S. 2128 or any other "reform" bill that would scapegoat outside groups, through which American citizens are better able to petition their government and which serve as government watchdogs.

Sincerely,

****************************

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The DVD includes interviews with prominent Second Amendment spokesmen, including several appearances by GOA's executive director, Larry Pratt. It's now ON SALE through Gun Owners Foundation at just $14.50.

Please see http://www.gunowners.com/resource.htm to order (and check out the massive, ongoing book sale at the same time).


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1 posted on 03/01/2006 12:23:25 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I regret to see that Senator John Kyl of Arizona, who I recently promoted as a possible 2008 prospect, has signed on to this absurd and obscene nonsense.

I must therefore, retract anything positive I may have said about the Senator.

As for Senator McPain?

*PPPPPFFFFFFTTTT!!!!* :(


2 posted on 03/01/2006 12:29:02 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: neverdem

The original Mclame Fiengold bill needs to be revisited at the Supreme Court.

and revisited and revisited and revisited until it goes away.


3 posted on 03/01/2006 12:31:32 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: mkjessup

I am losing faith in Coleman as well.


4 posted on 03/01/2006 12:34:56 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: neverdem

Do Mcain's security guards carry guns?


5 posted on 03/01/2006 12:41:02 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: neverdem

I will NEVER vote for John McCain.

There are a LOT of people like me in the Republican party. Hence I doubt he will be the nominee.

If McCain fails to get the Republican nomination, I expect him to run anyway. Perhaps as an Independent, or perhaps on the Democrat ticket. Either way, he will get enormously favorable press from the MSM, and will be a major problem for the Republicans.


6 posted on 03/01/2006 12:44:25 PM PST by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: neverdem

McCain is one scary person who is about as mean as they come. He is perfectly willing to pass laws, the Constitution be dammed, if it suits his flawed view of life in America.

I think he is going to get an unexpected earfull with his tour of America to promote amnesty.


7 posted on 03/01/2006 12:48:56 PM PST by Pylot
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To: EternalHope

Me too! I will sit on my hands if he gets the nomination. Typical jet jockey - whatever makes me look cool.


8 posted on 03/01/2006 12:52:49 PM PST by tigtog
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To: Pylot

ANYONE OUT THERE FROM AZ?

What are the chances of this guy being voted in again?

(1-5) 5 being he will be reelected /


9 posted on 03/01/2006 12:52:50 PM PST by Lowell (The voice from beyond the far right edge!)
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To: EternalHope

Count me as a vote against him too.


10 posted on 03/01/2006 12:55:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: neverdem; tigtog; EternalHope; mkjessup; Leatherneck_MT; Bahbah; Lowell
The REAL truth about McCain and guns click here
11 posted on 03/01/2006 12:59:48 PM PST by meandog (Five pillars of Islam: Allah's Mohammad is a 1. pedophile, 2. pimp, 3. puke, 4. pustz, 5. pig!)
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To: neverdem

Emails sent, snail mail on its way.


12 posted on 03/01/2006 1:04:25 PM PST by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: neverdem

My John McCain (up close and personal) story, from the 2000 South Carolina Primary.

Greenville SC - the 2000 Presidential primary - John McCain had just beaten ‘W’ in the NH primary and the “Straight Talk Express” rolled into South Carolina.

I was a McCain supporter - positive that he was the real deal.

I drove to a McCain speech and public appearance. It was a day I will never forget as long as I live.

That day I witnessed John McCain behave unlike any appearance I had ever seen on TV - the man was unhinged.

After a 15 minute canned speech - he decided to address his competition in the primary - George W. Bush. He did so by beginning with, “I am Luke Skywalker, and my opponents are members of the Empire. Together we will form the rebellion and defeat Darth Vadar”. He yelled this - first pumping - his voice full of anger - his face - beet red - and his eyes - well - they were scary.

The crowd instantly went from supportive - to bewildered.

He obviously didn’t pick up on the mood change - because he went on for another 5 minutes - ranting and raving about how everyone was lying about his record - his views - and he, “wasn’t going to take it any more” (remember the movie Network).

It was surreal.

When he finished - and with the prodding of an aid - he left the stage, while we in the crowd just stood there - stunned - and honestly - completely confused.

I asked a woman next to me: “what the hell just happened?” She answered: “that man is freaking nuts!”

I came home - walked in the house - sat on the couch and just looked at the wall. I suddenly realized - the man pushed on television - was not the man at all.

I have told this story many times - to many people - and I have heard the same story told back to me by others who have seen similar John McCain episodes.

I am not given to criticize anyone lightly ladies and gentlemen.

I am sure John McCain is a good man - but listen to me - and please believe me.

JOHN MCCAIN is NOT FIT TO LEAD THIS NATION.

John McCain is unstable. John McCain is freaking nuts!


13 posted on 03/01/2006 1:15:47 PM PST by Jake The Goose (McCain)
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To: Jake The Goose

I donated to and volunteered for McCain in NY in 2000. You're not alone in your disappointment. I had to write his operation to stop dunning me for further donations, expressing my disappointment that a fellow veteran would support all the un-Constitutional crap he supports. The dunning stopped.


14 posted on 03/01/2006 1:26:30 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Vicomte13

Ping


15 posted on 03/01/2006 1:44:12 PM PST by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: Jake The Goose

I have no doubt McNasty is unhinged and I've never heard him speak, just the crap I see on TV news.


16 posted on 03/01/2006 2:09:16 PM PST by GailA (May our Lord bless and protect our Troops in harms way.)
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To: Jake The Goose
John McCain is unstable. John McCain is freaking nuts!

Yes. Most of us know this already.

17 posted on 03/01/2006 2:17:23 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: meandog

After reading that page, I am even more convinced that McCain uses a coin to decide which way he is going to lean on any given issue.


18 posted on 03/01/2006 2:19:44 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Limbaugh was picking on the State AG of Vermont today. He had to justify VT's laws on campaign funding: AG Sorrel
being questioned by a USSC Justice (to the best of my recollection):

"How many cases have you prosecuted for campaign funding violations?" "None"

"Would you say that Vermont is a corrupt state?" "No"

"It appears then, that you are trying to muzzle freedom of speech without justification..."

Maybe there is hope to overthrow the incumbent protection act.

19 posted on 03/01/2006 2:41:32 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Jake The Goose
As a freeper once put it after some other McCainiact: "I'm telling you guys, McCain was brainwashed as a POW..."

Heck, decades ago, then Gov. Romney of MI said he was brainwashed as a NK POW. It sort of ended his chances for national office.

20 posted on 03/01/2006 2:45:01 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: neverdem

McBlame needs to be sent home to retire.


21 posted on 03/01/2006 3:01:20 PM PST by The Shootist
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To: neverdem

Don't you think the letter would be more effective if the legislation is called by the name given to it, rather than what the legislation does for an incumbent?


22 posted on 03/01/2006 3:08:53 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An eduction is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend against harm.)
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To: Calvin Locke

I sure as hell hope so. Now if we can just overthrow Mclame and send his idiotic ass into retirement, we'd be far better off.


23 posted on 03/01/2006 3:26:30 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Lowell
The last senator from Arizona who was a true patriot:



"May I remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice no virtue."
24 posted on 03/01/2006 3:29:22 PM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: EternalHope

McCain will give the White House to Hillary, just like Perot gave it to Clintoon.

And for the same reason: to defeat the Republican Party candidate.

I say again, McCain will see to it that Hillary wins.


25 posted on 03/01/2006 3:33:38 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: neverdem

The Mad Hatter. Enought said.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 3:52:44 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: EternalHope
I will NEVER vote for John McCain.

He's going to have a hard enough time getting conservative support without being a gun hater.

He could be trouble as an independent, but a lot of Libs like him, probably more than Hitler-y.

27 posted on 03/01/2006 7:10:15 PM PST by ottersnot ( You can't spell Liberal without L, I, E. There is no middle ground between right and wrong)
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To: meandog
I checked out your link Meandog. Not sure it cleared anything up. he's possibly for an assault weapons ban, but would be for concealed carry.

Looks like he's all over the place trying to make friends at every opportunity.

28 posted on 03/01/2006 7:13:07 PM PST by ottersnot ( You can't spell Liberal without L, I, E. There is no middle ground between right and wrong)
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To: neverdem

you know, unfortunately there are a bunch of morons here at FR who will tell you that McFgld did nothing to the First Amendment....incredibly they say that here, all too often


29 posted on 03/01/2006 7:18:34 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: neverdem

Has the Gov started dusting off the "relocation camps" yet?


30 posted on 03/01/2006 7:21:34 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: EternalHope
I think McCain will take more votes away from the Democrats than from whatever Republican recieves the nomination.

To me the 2008 election shapes up as follows:
The nominated Republican candidate holds onto the base and some moderate voters.
Hillary as the Democrat candidate will have even the graveyards voting Independant or Republican.
McCain as a third party candidate will get the left wing of moderates and the disaffected graveyards voters of the left.

I can see the Republicans winning with a plurality of 40% of the vote, and leading both other candidates by 10%.

The biggest effect will be in the Electoral College, in that many "Blue states" following the above voting pattern, will wind up pluralties for the GOP.

I echo your sentiments: I will NEVER vote for John McCain.

31 posted on 03/01/2006 7:55:37 PM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: Simo Hayha
Don't you think the letter would be more effective if the legislation is called by the name given to it, rather than what the legislation does for an incumbent?

Any way you want to skin that cat for attacking the First Amendment. Just not a form letter, please?

32 posted on 03/01/2006 7:56:01 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Dead Corpse
I am even more convinced that McCain uses a coin to decide which way he is going to lean on any given issue.

I only wish he were that rational. It's not his decisions that scare me, but, his enacted and his proposed legislaton.

33 posted on 03/01/2006 8:02:02 PM PST by rock58seg (As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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To: neverdem

At least one knows that these Congressman have something to hide or they wouldn't want people GAGGED.

That's ridiculous and is without a doubt against our Constitution giving us rights to free speach.


34 posted on 03/01/2006 8:57:12 PM PST by bobwilgo
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To: mkjessup

Kyl voted for the Brady Bill as a congressman. Our guys here are nearly all Rino's.


35 posted on 03/01/2006 9:00:51 PM PST by Luke21
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To: neverdem

Bump


36 posted on 03/01/2006 9:04:43 PM PST by RJL
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To: neverdem

No RINO bills. No RINO for President.


37 posted on 03/01/2006 9:25:02 PM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: neverdem

bump


38 posted on 03/01/2006 9:59:31 PM PST by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: ConservativeDude; All
unfortunately there are a bunch of morons here at FR who will tell you that McFgld did nothing to the First Amendment....

Perhaps some of us will remember to offer them this posting each time.

39 posted on 03/01/2006 11:18:58 PM PST by FreeKeys ("It's a shakedown system" -- Christopher Hitchens)
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To: Pylot
McCain is one scary person...

Every time I see this guy:

I think of this guy:


40 posted on 03/02/2006 3:27:20 AM PST by raybbr
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To: rock58seg
I wonder if we will ever see a viable third party candidate with BCFR intact. Consider Justice Kennedy's remarks in his opinion on the case:

BCRA would have imposed felony punishment on Ross Perot's 1996 efforts to build the Reform Party. Compare Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (FECA) §§309(d)(1)(A), 315(a)(1)(B), and 323(a)(1) (prohibiting, by up to five years. imprisonment, any individual from giving over $25,000 annually to a national party), with Spending By Perot, The Houston Chronicle, Dec. 13, 1996, p. 43 (reporting Perot.s $8 million founding contribution to the Reform Party).

They don't call it an incumbent protection plan for nothing. Wouldn't it be something if McCain was imprisoned because of his own legislation!

41 posted on 03/02/2006 3:41:48 AM PST by Simo Hayha (An eduction is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend against harm.)
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To: elcid1970

McCain will give the White House to Hillary, just like Perot gave it to Clintoon.


I do not think so. He would get more democrat votes than Republican, his views are much closer to theirs than ours. What Republican in his right mind would vote for this guy?


42 posted on 03/02/2006 5:23:31 AM PST by John D
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To: Crispus Attucks Patriot

Barry was my guy, I remember that campaign when I was a young Democrat. My thought was this guy isn't that bad. But young and always 'true' to the Dems, they help the poor and average people you know'.
He was the guy that opened my eyes.
(The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!) Yes, not many people know that.
Do you know his name?


43 posted on 03/02/2006 6:25:57 AM PST by Lowell (The voice from beyond the far right edge!)
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To: neverdem

bump to me self


44 posted on 03/02/2006 6:28:22 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: Lowell
Do *I* know his name? Yes, which is why I chose his name as MY screen name here.

;-)


45 posted on 03/02/2006 6:31:45 AM PST by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: John D

If McCain gets the Republican nomination, with lots of Democratic votes as you said, then Hillary is toast.

But what if it's Giuliani or George Allen? McCain's temper will surely drive him to run independent, and then that gigantic sucking sound will be Republicans for McCain, as they vote for Hillary without even knowing it.


46 posted on 03/02/2006 1:33:20 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

What I was saying was if McCrazy runs as an independent I think he will pull more dem votes than Republican. I can not believe any true Republican could vote for him. Right now he is doing well only because of his name ID. As soon as people get to see what he is really about they will be turned off, except dimwitocrats.


47 posted on 03/02/2006 2:21:13 PM PST by John D
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To: John D

I see your point, except to point out that those who vote for the independent usually claim that he appeals to purer principles or ideology, and is considered the `ideal' (e.g. McCain's `Straight Talk Express').

Reagan walked all over Carter in 1980, but how many votes were siphoned off by the mostly forgotten John Anderson?

Ross Perot boasted that he helped elect Clinton; his boast provoked an uproar which made him drop out of sight after 1992.

McCain is all about me, me, me. And that makes him dangerously unpredictable. He just might fool a few Republicans. Hillary is not the only makeover expert.


48 posted on 03/02/2006 3:21:58 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I believe it is.


49 posted on 03/02/2006 10:07:57 PM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: All

Almost two years ago, but now he is the almost nominee.


50 posted on 02/18/2008 6:03:55 PM PST by Sybeck1 (It's truly bad when your Savior in November is Judas Himself.)
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