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Libby knew CIA spy by name before it was published, filing shows
Mercury News ^ | Posted on Tue, Feb. 28, 2006 | BY JAMES GORDON MEEK

Posted on 03/01/2006 5:57:23 PM PST by Perdogg

WASHINGTON - Handwritten notes taken by the CIA show Vice President Dick Cheney's top aide knew the name of CIA spy Valerie Plame Wilson a month before her cover was blown.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agent99; cheney; cialeak; cialeaklibby; medialiesagent99; mwdp; nofitzmasforyou
The filing suggests Cheney may have been present when Libby griped to his CIA briefer about agency officials slamming Cheney in the press. Seven officials have testified that Libby raised the CIA spy with them before columnist Robert Novak mentioned her in a column. In the filing, Fitzgerald also revealed that his investigators also confiscated computers.

This means nothing. Fitz still has to prove Mens Rea.

Nothing new herre. This was already discussed in the NYT on October 26th, 2005. Remember? I guess it's Dump on Bush Month, but when isn't it?

1 posted on 03/01/2006 5:57:26 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: A Citizen Reporter; AliVeritas; alnick; AmericaUnited; Anti-Bubba182; arasina; BobS; Carolinamom; ..
Scooter ping!
2 posted on 03/01/2006 5:58:14 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin; frankjr; Peach

ping!


3 posted on 03/01/2006 5:59:15 PM PST by Perdogg (The Opinions expressed by Perdogg are correct and should be relied upon)
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To: Perdogg

"t appears to be the first known document in the hands of prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald that directly contradicts Lewis "Scooter" Libby's claim he learned from reporters in July 2003 that Valerie Wilson was a CIA employee."

---snip


"Meanwhile, a judge overseeing Libby's perjury trial ruled Monday that Libby won't get any copies of the secret daily intelligence briefings for Cheney and President Bush."


4 posted on 03/01/2006 6:00:20 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Perdogg

Anyone that reads Vanty Fair knew too, didn't they Barney???


5 posted on 03/01/2006 6:01:04 PM PST by Waco
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To: Perdogg
Ummm...So What?

not like it wasn't part of his job or anything...

6 posted on 03/01/2006 6:01:40 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Perdogg

What cover? Is Satchlebutt a cover?


7 posted on 03/01/2006 6:03:29 PM PST by Steamburg (Pretenders everywhere)
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To: Perdogg
knew the name of CIA spy Valerie Plame Wilson a month before her cover was blown.

Ummm, when was that exactly.....6,7,8 years ago???

8 posted on 03/01/2006 6:05:52 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Waco

who is Barney?


9 posted on 03/01/2006 6:06:17 PM PST by Perdogg (The Opinions expressed by Perdogg are correct and should be relied upon)
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To: Howlin

That's what he's basing his case against Libby on?


10 posted on 03/01/2006 6:07:38 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

I sure hope so..............LOL.

Amazing, isn't it?


11 posted on 03/01/2006 6:08:34 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin

I wouldn't of charged it. But hey, I wasn't the special prosecutor who spent millions of dollars to back it up.


12 posted on 03/01/2006 6:09:57 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Perdogg
Handwritten notes taken by the CIA show Vice President Dick Cheney's top aide knew the name of CIA spy Valerie Plame Wilson a month before her cover was blown.

Can somebody clue me in on the meaning of this? I figured Libby knew Plame's name for months if not years before Novak wrote his column. I don't understand if this is supposed to be news, or what - - what am I missing here?

Thanks.

13 posted on 03/01/2006 6:12:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

The discrepancy between Libby saying he learned of her from reporters and a CIA officers handwritten note that he knew about her a month before.


14 posted on 03/01/2006 6:13:40 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Perdogg
"...her cover was blown."

Repeat a lie often enough....

15 posted on 03/01/2006 6:14:07 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: marajade; Lancey Howard

This was in the NYT on Oct 26th, 2005. there is nothing new here.


16 posted on 03/01/2006 6:16:07 PM PST by Perdogg (The Opinions expressed by Perdogg are correct and should be relied upon)
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To: Perdogg; Lancey Howard

Libby apparently testified that he learned of her from reporters not a CIA operative's handwritten note. Doesn't matter it was in the NYT.


17 posted on 03/01/2006 6:18:14 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Lancey Howard
Nobody knew anything about Plame because she was entirely too far down the food chain for White House notice EXCEPT FOR ONE THING ~ her husband.

In fact, he had done some interesting work under BUSH I and had no doubt had to answer some questions to get in the White House to be commended by the President.

Later on, he most likely got another White House visit, to the Clinton White House, and his marriage to Valerie had to be reported to get that clearance. He may have even had a later visit under Bush II.

I have no doubt Libby is going to spring a White House clearance document showing Ambassador Wilson reporting his wife as a CIA employee ~ maybe even more good stuff.

Every individual with access to the clearance documents would know.

Fritz probably never bothered to check this data source.

18 posted on 03/01/2006 6:21:16 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Howlin

bttt


19 posted on 03/01/2006 6:26:27 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: muawiyah
I have no doubt Libby is going to spring a White House clearance document showing Ambassador Wilson reporting his wife as a CIA employee

I'll pop a cork in Your Honor when it comes to pass.

20 posted on 03/01/2006 6:31:27 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: Lancey Howard
"Can somebody clue me in on the meaning of this?..what am I missing here?"

Handwritten notes taken by the CIA...

Care to consider WHY there are handwriten notes taken by the CIA?
Inside the USA.
Between US citizens.
Concerning the current administration.
Concerning a really, really, weird CIA 'mission' to nigeria.
............?

21 posted on 03/01/2006 6:37:26 PM PST by norton
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To: ExcursionGuy84
Funniest thing, I've gone over there for visits and simply forgot about the kind of stuff you have to tell them to get your clearance.

Bet there's a Freeper who has a copy of a blank document.

22 posted on 03/01/2006 6:41:58 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Howlin
when Libby griped to his CIA briefer about agency officials slamming Cheney in the press.

Seven officials have testified that Libby raised the CIA spy with them before columnist Robert Novak mentioned her in a column.

Would these officials be the same ones slamming Cheney???

And majority of DC knew her name .. doesn't mean she was a covert spy

23 posted on 03/01/2006 6:45:02 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: norton
"Can somebody clue me in on the meaning of this?..what am I missing here?" Handwritten notes taken by the CIA... Care to consider WHY there are handwriten notes taken by the CIA? Inside the USA. Between US citizens. Concerning the current administration. Concerning a really, really, weird CIA 'mission' to nigeria. ............? ********************************************************** Its just CIA sedition against White House International Policy, there is a generation of Harvard and Yale liberals manning the CIA who think of creative ways to subvert the roles required of them by the President. One more reason why the President NEEDS to be able to wire tap without the necessary warrants. Dubyah is slowly cleaning house with Porter Goss's help.
24 posted on 03/01/2006 6:53:22 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Mo1

The question is how is this material?


25 posted on 03/01/2006 6:53:41 PM PST by Perdogg (The Opinions expressed by Perdogg are correct and should be relied upon)
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To: Perdogg

so did all the reporters he talked to.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 6:54:23 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Howlin

This is just a rehashing of very old news.


27 posted on 03/01/2006 7:09:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: marajade
That's what he's basing his case against Libby on?

Yes. But remember, it's being tried in DC. And, to twist an old expression, a ham sandwich could convict any Republican of anything in Washington DC.

28 posted on 03/01/2006 7:16:21 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Perdogg

Fife


29 posted on 03/01/2006 7:59:34 PM PST by Waco
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To: marajade
did he say when he learned from reporters? When did Bob Woodward know?
30 posted on 03/01/2006 8:43:56 PM PST by Homer1
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To: Perdogg

More left wing lies and propaganda...."Libby knew SPY by name"?

She wasn't a SPY!

I'm so sick of the lies in the media.


31 posted on 03/01/2006 8:47:53 PM PST by Fledermaus (Please explain the difference between Al-Qaeda and the Left? Anyone? Anyone?)
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To: Fledermaus
"More left wing lies and propaganda...."Libby knew SPY by name"?

She wasn't a SPY!

I'm so sick of the lies in the media.

If she was a spy, she was guilty of domestic spying!

32 posted on 03/01/2006 8:53:48 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: marajade

Libby said that he knew about her before but that he didn't "know" about her with respect to reporters, until he heard about her from them. At this point, it wasn't something he could leak anymore so he could then talk about her. That's what he has been trying to say all along.


33 posted on 03/01/2006 9:50:34 PM PST by dalight
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To: Perdogg
You've hit on a concept that I've been thinking about. Have you noticed how many news stories are really old, recycled stories:

-the Abu Ghrabib pics when released were pictures from months ago that the Pentagon was investigating already;
--the NSA wiretapping was Risen trying to sell his book and the NYT trying to hurt Bush;
--Katrina was a real and important news story back in August/Sept; this rehash is just taking known facts and trying to spin them as new;
--the Ports was an old and ignored story until someone decided how to play it;
--Joe Wilson and his shy spy wife was known and ignored for months until David Corn figured a way to play it and the MSM collaborated.

Much of the news is not really news, but political operations.
34 posted on 03/02/2006 1:48:13 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: Perdogg

You've hit on a concept that I've been thinking about. Have you noticed how many news stories are really old, recycled stories:

-the Abu Ghrabib pics when released were pictures from months ago that the Pentagon was investigating already;
--the NSA wiretaping was Risen trying to sell his book and the NYT trying to hurt Bush;
--Katrina was a real and important news story back in August/Sept; this rehash is just taking known facts and trying to spin them as new;
--the Ports was an old and ignored story until someone decided how to play it;
--Joe Wilson and his shy spy wife was known and ignored for months until David Corn figured a way to play it and the MSM collaborated.

Much of the news is not really news, but political operations.


35 posted on 03/02/2006 1:51:57 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: Patriot from Philly


"Much of the news is not really news, but political operations."

Truer words are seldom spoken.


36 posted on 03/02/2006 1:58:50 AM PST by Paulus
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To: Paulus

We have to do something about the media. They are throwing a huge temper tantrum. Sorry I posted twice.


37 posted on 03/02/2006 2:16:49 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: Perdogg
knew the name of CIA spy Valerie Plame Wilson

Except she wasn't a spy. She rode a desk at Langley as a WMD analyst.
39 posted on 03/02/2006 2:57:14 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: Beckwith

And her husband owned a company that brokers sales of Yellowcake ore for the President of Niger.

Twice he went to Niger because his company had a big sale to handle. Once during the Clinton Admin, once during the Bush Admin.

Each time, his wifey got the CIA to let him do the 'spying' to see if Niger was selling ore to Saddam. Each time it was all expenses paid, no questions asked, no documents to sign.

Each time, Saddam got the exact amount of Yellowcake ore that Wilson said WAS NOT SOLD.

New sports car, picture in the magazines, Joe and Valerie playing like James Bond and Moneypenny.

It is so obvious, yet being kept so quiet. JW managed the sale of ore to Saddam, through his company, giving kickbacks to his CIA buddies. That is why some have quit, so they can avoid any investigation.

The DEMS are protecting this because they knew and profited as well.

The attack on Bush is to protect the guilt of the Dems and the CIA.


40 posted on 03/02/2006 7:20:19 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (and miles to go before I sleep.)
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To: Perdogg

So the latest Katrina video didn't work for the Rats, now it's back to PlameGate.


41 posted on 03/02/2006 7:21:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: marajade
So someone at the CIA says Libby knew of Plame beforehand... BUT it doesn't say WHAT Libby knew about Plame. When EXACTLY were the CIA dude's notes written? And WHY and to whom were they addressed?

The bug in this is that they leave out the additional questions clarifying his Libby's testimony. The word "FIRST" is the misleading word.

42 posted on 03/02/2006 9:06:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Patriot from Philly
Katrina

Not only is it old news, but it is based on the false premise - repeated daily - that the government "botched" the relief effort. I checked it out today, and pre-hurricane computer models projected up to 61,000 deaths for a Katrina-level hurricane. The actual death toll is now about 1,340, with a few hundred missing. So the actual dead and missing are only 3% of the predicted dead! It seems to me this indicates a remarkably well-executed relief effort, not the botched fiasco we hear about every day. A few hysterical, grandstanding reporters set the tone on day one, and that has become accepted reality.
43 posted on 03/02/2006 2:26:52 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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CIA says Libby defense could disrupt intelligence
Tue Mar 7, 2006 2:59 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The CIA would have a hard time advising President George W. Bush on security threats if a judge forced it to provide all documents sought by a former vice presidential aide accused of perjury, the agency said in a court filing made public on Tuesday. ...

CIA information review officer Marilyn Dorn said agency officials would have a harder time keeping Bush up to date on security threats if a judge ordered them to dig up classified material sought by Libby.

"The job would divert their precious time and effort away from their primary task: preparing breaking intelligence for the president's immediate attention," Dorn wrote. ...

But Dorn said that the CIA would require up to nine months to reassemble the reports because they contain information from many different sources based on questions that Libby asked briefers.

Because of the highly sensitive nature of the material, only those officials who prepare the reports have enough security clearance to handle the task, she said.

http://today.reuters.com/ ...


44 posted on 03/07/2006 12:39:42 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt; Howlin; All
CIA Says Information Sought By Libby Is Highly Classified

Mar. 7 - The CIA signaled Tuesday it likely will fight the release of highly classified presidential intelligence briefings that Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide wants to use in his defense against perjury charges.

Gathering the materials sought by I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's former chief of staff, would take up to nine months, Marilyn Dorn, a CIA information review officer, said in a sworn statement filed in U.S. District Court.

Dorn said the CIA believes disclosure of the information would damage national security and wants a chance to be heard in court before any material is turned over to Libby, who is charged with lying in the investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.

"The defense's requests clearly implicate highly classified, compartmentalized information and potential claims of executive privilege for presidential communications and the deliberative process," Dorn wrote.

"Compartmentalized" information requires a special security clearance, meaning the CIA could not assign just anyone to help gather the material Libby's lawyers want, Dorn said.

Dorn's affidavit was filed under seal last Friday but made public Tuesday.

Libby, 55, was indicted last year on charges that he lied to the FBI and a federal grand jury about how he learned the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame and when he subsequently told reporters.

Lawyers for Libby want access to nearly a year of the President's Daily Brief, a summary of intelligence about threats against the United States. Dorn estimated it would take nine months for the small staff responsible for producing the intelligence briefing to assemble the material.

But Dorn estimated it would take about three months to comply with a more streamlined request of about 40 days of the briefings that U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton suggested. That period would cover when Libby allegedly spoke to three reporters, along with two days before and after he was interviewed by FBI agents and testified before the grand jury.

"While the size of the task would be reduced if the time periods were restricted, the process is nevertheless time-consuming and laborious," Dorn said.

Walton, in an effort to try to give the defense some of what it says it needs, suggested that the CIA determine whether it could provide summaries of the briefings Libby received six days a week, often along with Cheney.

But Dorn warned the judge that summaries pose as grave a danger to national security as turning over the actual reports.

"Referring to the topics ... even in an abstracted or generalized manner presents the same concerns about disclosure of classified information," she wrote. "The very fact that these topics were presented to the president discloses sensitive information concerning U.S. intelligence and policy priorities."

The defense lawyers said they need all of the briefings to show that Libby was busy with important national security matters and may have forgotten or remembered incorrectly what he had said to reporters about Plame.

Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald opposed the request, calling it "simply breathtaking," and accused the defense of trying to derail the case.

In seeking the middle ground, Walton appears to be trying to avoid a showdown with President Bush over access to the documents.

But Dorn suggested there is no middle ground. "Any disclosure ... beyond its intended narrow audience -- the president and his most senior advisers -- increases the possibility of damage to the national security," she wrote.

Libby usually received intelligence briefings with Cheney. But, sometimes, Dorn said, the CIA told Cheney things it did not tell Libby.

Frequently, she said, Libby received more information than Cheney because Libby often asked the CIA additional questions.

The CIA official who briefed Libby learned to "customize" the report by including additional information in anticipation of the former White House aide's questions, Dorn said.

"As a result, the briefing provided to Mr. Libby on any given day usually differed from, and only rarely would have been identical to, the briefing provided to the vice president and the president," Dorn wrote.

45 posted on 03/07/2006 12:51:21 PM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat
More links ... msn.com requires excerpting and I'm too lazy ;-)

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11712712/ - CIA may fight releasing memos to Libby
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8550312/ - Read the facts about the naming of a covert CIA agent

46 posted on 03/07/2006 1:04:22 PM PST by Cboldt
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