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New paint blocks out cell phone signals
UPI via Drudge ^ | 3/1/2006 | None provided

Posted on 03/01/2006 6:32:02 PM PST by Vermonter

New paint blocks out cell phone signals ROCHESTER, N.Y., March 1 (UPI) -- A Rochester, N.Y., company has developed paint that can switch between blocking cell phone signals and allowing them through.

"You could use this in a concert hall, allowing cell phones to work before the concert and during breaks, but shutting them down during the performance," said Michael Riedlinger, president of NaturalNano.

Using nanotechnology, particles of copper are inserted into nanotubes, which are ultra-tiny tubes that occur naturally in halloysite clay mined in Utah. Combined with a radio-filtering device that collects phone signals from outside a shielded space, certain transmissions can proceed while others are blocked, the Chicago Tribune reported.

However, the wireless phone industry is up in arms over the development.

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."


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1 posted on 03/01/2006 6:32:05 PM PST by Vermonter
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To: Vermonter

I guess the brain surgeon should not go to the concert when he is on call...what did they ever do before cell phones?


2 posted on 03/01/2006 6:35:39 PM PST by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: Vermonter
What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

Yeah, and what the hell did these people do 10 years ago? I don't recall the world coming to an end because people couldn't have their stupid rings going off in movie theatres.

3 posted on 03/01/2006 6:36:02 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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4 posted on 03/01/2006 6:36:29 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: Vermonter
If this works on the US Government mind-control satellites, I'm using it on my house, car, and clothing!
5 posted on 03/01/2006 6:36:46 PM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Vermonter

This is the main reason we don't have lead paint today, lead paint went out after the government started snooping


6 posted on 03/01/2006 6:37:04 PM PST by zipp_city
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To: NonLinear

Slept in the hospital in shifts.


7 posted on 03/01/2006 6:37:06 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Rodney King

10 year ago pagers were ubiquitous and served pretty much the same purpose. Before that, hospitals simply paid more money to keep people in house. Today, they pay call pay which is a fraction of inhouse pay unless the physician is called in, then most, not all, but most allow the physician to independantly bill the patient by the procedure.


8 posted on 03/01/2006 6:39:09 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Vermonter

DUmmies will be glazing their scalps.


9 posted on 03/01/2006 6:39:53 PM PST by SquirrelKing (Contrary to popular belief, America is not a democracy, it is a Chucktatorship.)
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To: Vermonter

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

Does anyone remember life before cell phones? I do, it seemed much quieter then.

BTW, if a neurosurgeon is on call he can stay home that night and not take the girlfriend to the symphony. (sarc)


10 posted on 03/01/2006 6:40:04 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: Vermonter

It won't go anywhere here - maybe Japan. FCC has ruled in the past it is illegal to ban these transmissions.


11 posted on 03/01/2006 6:40:07 PM PST by quantim (Always aligned, never maligned, but sometimes out of phase.)
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To: Vermonter

12 posted on 03/01/2006 6:40:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Vermonter
The guy next to me..his cell phone went off during a performance while Barrenbonm conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. It doesn't get worse.
13 posted on 03/01/2006 6:40:21 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Vermonter
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group."
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What an ass
- my apologies to donkeys everywhere.
14 posted on 03/01/2006 6:40:22 PM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Vermonter

Tin Foil paint FR style


15 posted on 03/01/2006 6:40:42 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: zipp_city

And here I thought it was poisonous...


16 posted on 03/01/2006 6:43:44 PM PST by farlander
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To: Howlin

This has the potential to be an interesting thread... It may put ALCOA out of business.


17 posted on 03/01/2006 6:44:29 PM PST by deport
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To: Vermonter

When are all the cell phone companies going to be sued for the damage the waves are doing as they travel through everyone's brains?

Coming to a court near YOU!


18 posted on 03/01/2006 6:46:32 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Vermonter

When the cat is King, cell phones will be banned, and blackberries will be something you eat!


19 posted on 03/01/2006 6:47:04 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: farlander

Yes I know what the government says, Lead paint is still on most every house with wood siding built before 1950. So who do you know that has been poisoned by lead paint.


20 posted on 03/01/2006 6:49:09 PM PST by zipp_city
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To: Spruce
mind-control satellites

LOL

..throw those tinfoil hats away!

21 posted on 03/01/2006 6:49:55 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Vermonter
Brain surgeons should stay away from concerts and movies.

First problem solved.

Now, baby sitters ~ just lock your kids in the bedroom. Baby sitters are too difficult to get and all they want to do is drink your beer and lay on your couch with their boyfriends.

Second problem solved.

Well, guess that paint doesn't really bother anybody who needs to be bothered.

22 posted on 03/01/2006 6:50:25 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: zipp_city

I personally don't, but apparently Sherwin-Williams (SHW) does. There's a class action lawsuit going on... And no, I don't buy everything some money grabbing lawyers say. But lead is poisonous and I'd prefer not to take any such chances.


23 posted on 03/01/2006 6:52:06 PM PST by farlander
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To: Blackirish

Bet the crunching sound his cervical vertebrae made as you crushed his neck were exceedingly upsetting, but the question still is "did they applaud"?


24 posted on 03/01/2006 6:52:24 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Spruce
Don't, the Bilderbergers have a "backdoor" code to turn off the paint.

It's all another plot by our Alien Overlords to get those like us who are "in the know". Like those "aluminum windows"- ha! didn't they think we'd notice that you could see right through them! whoever heard of transparent aluminum? You can't see anything through my real aluminum windows by golly. And no one's controlling my brain you can bet!!!!!

25 posted on 03/01/2006 6:53:07 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

My biggest fear is that increases in technology will someday allow cellular telephones to be used while in flight. With that nightmare in mind, I propose we paint all airliners with this fantastic paint to nip that annoying problem in the bud.

~ Blue Jays ~

26 posted on 03/01/2006 6:54:45 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

Or, put in a disposal port so that the annoyed passengers can toss the phones, if not their users, out of the plane.


27 posted on 03/01/2006 6:56:16 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: quantim

Active jammers are illegal in the US, but passive jamming is OK.

What the paint does is similar to what older houses already do to radio signals.


28 posted on 03/01/2006 7:01:58 PM PST by not5150
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To: Blackirish

Any idiot that lets his cell phone go off during a concert performance doesn't belong there in the first place.

My peeve is when you are having lunch or dinner with someone and their damn phone rings. I tell them to turn the damn thing off before the fact now!

Too bad we have let common sense deteriorate so rapidly.


29 posted on 03/01/2006 7:03:41 PM PST by TheLion
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To: farlander

A Rhode Island jury of six/ This will surly be appealed


30 posted on 03/01/2006 7:04:26 PM PST by zipp_city
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To: Revolting cat!

You can be King after me.

Me on short list after discovering that I am also the Satrap of Phrigia, a preliminary step on the way to Semi-Benevolent Absolute Dogspot.

BTW, me had Hyperbole once too, but the vet applied some salve, and it got better.


31 posted on 03/01/2006 7:11:46 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("He is a [sane] man who can have tragedy in his heart and comedy in his head." - G.K.Chesterton)
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To: muawiyah

While I am not a brain surgeon (I am an anesthesiologist) I can say unequivocally that my wife will no longer go out with me when I am on-call as I left 2 dinners at fairly nice restaurantes in a row when the *$%^*** beeper went off...problem solved!


32 posted on 03/01/2006 7:36:38 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Spruce
If this works on the US Government mind-control satellites, I'm using it on my house, car, and clothing!

Just think how this will improve the performance of a tin foil hat.
33 posted on 03/01/2006 7:41:50 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: quantim

Its illegal to JAM the signals. Jamming is active transmission of noise on the same frequency to stop cell phones from functioning.

This technology is a passive technology, and doesnt transmit anything.

IMO, since it doesnt transmit, it doesnt even fall under the jurisdiction of the FCC.

Otherwise, the FCC could come down hard on buildings with thick concrete walls (that block cell and other signals)


34 posted on 03/01/2006 7:42:38 PM PST by dman4384
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To: org.whodat

I wonder if this would also counter the hardwater spots on my car's windshield that whisper evil things to me.


35 posted on 03/01/2006 7:46:00 PM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Vermonter

Could you paint cars wih it???


36 posted on 03/01/2006 7:48:06 PM PST by Redbob
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To: quantim

It may be illegal to jam radio transmissions, but it's certainly not illegal to simplyfilter them out.

Jamming involves a competing broadcast; this paint would simply not allow the signals to penetrate.
There is a difference; I know it's a subtle one...


37 posted on 03/01/2006 7:50:28 PM PST by Redbob
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To: NonLinear
.what did they ever do before cell phones?

That was my first reaction.

38 posted on 03/01/2006 7:51:40 PM PST by It's me
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To: farlander

Lead is poisonous ONLY WHEN YOU PUT IT IN YOUR MOUTH!

Solution to lead poisoning: DON'T PUT LEAD PAINT IN YOUR MOUTH!

(Geez, you'd think chemistry or logic or something should be taught in the public schools...)


39 posted on 03/01/2006 7:52:59 PM PST by Redbob
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To: quantim

"Passive" blocking such as putting a lot of metal in the walls would be ok. "Active" blocking i.e. jamming is what the FCC prohibits.

The description here is pretty vague so I don't know which kind they're talking about.


40 posted on 03/01/2006 7:58:19 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Vermonter

All one has to do to block all malicious and unwanted signals to a room is cover the walls with aluminum foil. My shiny office is a place of peace and tranquility.


41 posted on 03/01/2006 8:08:20 PM PST by Jaysun (The plain truth is that I am not a fair man, and don't want to hear both sides.)
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To: Vermonter
Check this out...

Atlas Mining Company is a diversified natural resource company with its primary focus today on the development of the Dragon Mine in Juab County, Utah, the only known commercial source of Halloysite clay outside of New Zealand. The unique purity and quality of the Dragon mine Halloysite is unmatched anywhere in the world and has spawned considerable research into new and exciting applications for this product. Atlas also holds mining and timber interests in Northern Idaho, operates an underground mining contracting business, and is continuously looking for new opportunities in the mining and natural resources industry. Atlas stock trades on the OTC Bulletin Board under the symbol "ALMI". More information about Atlas Mining Company can be found at http://www.atlasmining.com .


42 posted on 03/01/2006 8:13:00 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: Vermonter
http://www.naturalnano.com/halloysite

Naturally formed in the Earth over millions of years, halloysite nanotubes are unique nanomaterials with remarkable properties. Like carbon nanotubes (CNTs), halloysite nanotubes are ultra-tiny hollow tubes with diameters typically smaller than 100 nanometers (100 billionths of a meter), with lengths typically ranging from about 500 nanometers to over 1.2 microns (millionths of a meter).

But instead of carbon, they are composed of aluminum, silicon, hydrogen, and oxygen and are formed naturally in the Earth by surface weathering of aluminosilicate minerals, rather than in laboratories.

43 posted on 03/01/2006 8:19:51 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: NonLinear
what did they ever do before cell phones

Used the beeper on the 'vibrate' mode.

44 posted on 03/01/2006 8:26:14 PM PST by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: Rodney King
"the hell did these people do 10 years ago? "

It's not 10 years ago, it's today.
People have changed, people have changed how they communicate and do business.
I do mortgage lending, many people don't even have a home phone anymore. This is different than even 2 years ago.

Many professional people are on call most of the time, cell phones are the primary way to communicate. People need to use manners yes. But anyone that thinks cell phones are a nonessential item is not in the loop.

I have 3 kids, one diabetic. I will be accessible to my kids, and they to me. I don't really care if someone has a problem with that.
45 posted on 03/01/2006 8:29:34 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Vermonter

I need some of this paint for my tinfoil hat.


46 posted on 03/01/2006 8:31:56 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: NonLinear
what did they ever do before cell phones?

Left word with their service about where they'd be. Their service could then call the concert hall, restaurant, movie, etc. if need be.

47 posted on 03/01/2006 8:36:05 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Redbob
but it's certainly not illegal to simplyfilter them out.

But if they're also FCC granted frequencies used by emergency personnel, well that's a big no-no.
48 posted on 03/01/2006 8:36:10 PM PST by quantim (Always aligned, never maligned, but sometimes out of phase.)
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To: TheLion

It's not common sense, it's common decency.

The idea of thinking about how your actions will impact others and being considerate to complete strangers simply because they're human beings too has gone out of style. Now it's "do whatever you want whenever you want to and to hell with anyone who doesn't like it".


49 posted on 03/01/2006 8:42:16 PM PST by Sofa King (A wise man uses compromise as an alternative to defeat. A fool uses it as an alternative to victory.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Hi HereInTheHeartland-

"...Many professional people are on call most of the time, cell phones are the primary way to communicate. People need to use manners yes. But anyone that thinks cell phones are a nonessential item is not in the loop. I have 3 kids, one diabetic. I will be accessible to my kids, and they to me. I don't really care if someone has a problem with that..."


You might be more aligned with people not particularly enamored with cellular telephones than you think. Do you utilize the following techniques when you're out and about with a wireless communications device on your hip:

As far as the critical need to reach someone, we're pretty much all dispensable. We like to think that our jobs are pivotal to the continued orbit of this planet around the sun, but the simple fact-of-the-matter is there are others that can handle our affairs (both business & personal) until we're reacheable once again.

Amtrak has a fantastic "silent car" where radios and cellular telephones must be turned off, which is one of the finest ways to travel these days. The final straw will be airline travel. It is my sincere wish that use of cellular telephones be prohibited while airborne. This is essentially the last place of quiet refuge from those infernal devices and (frequently) the loudmouth knuckleheads who yammer into them all day.

~ Blue Jays ~

50 posted on 03/01/2006 9:03:44 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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