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Japanese brands dominate list of top cars in U.S.
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | March 2, 2006 | Dee-Ann Durbin (A.P.)

Posted on 03/02/2006 6:09:12 AM PST by Graybeard58

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To: Graybeard58
I have always bought new cars. Years ago I owned a 1970 Ford Country Squire wagon. I replaced the engine (casting flaw), transmission, 3 alternators and more. Then I bought a Plymouth Barracuda. It never steered right and one day the alignment guy told me the left front wheel was a half inch further back than the front and it need to go on a frame stretcher.

Then I bought an AMC Hornet Sportabout. The seat covers shredded at about 30,000 miles.

Then came a 1977 Chevy Impala. It was a pretty good car.

Following was a 1983 (I think) Buick Century. Freeze plug fell out of the engine and the dealer couldn't figure out how to fix it...had the car for over a week.

My wife bought a 1991 Dodge Caravan. It ate two transmissions, replaced the fuel injectors, had to replace the temperature control module in the dash, starter and cruise control among other things.

I owned a couple of Volkswagon Sciroccos and had trouble with both.

Then I bought a 1991 Acura Integra. Had to replace a rear shock in warranty and that was it, other than scheduled maintenance, for 100,000 miles. My wife now has a 2000 Toyota Sienna with which we have had no problems and I have a 2003 Acura 3.2CL. It has been through two recalls for some items but no problems.

When, back at the end of World War II, the Big Three auto makers told Edward Deming to pound sand that is when they sealed their fate.

The rest is history.

81 posted on 03/02/2006 7:54:34 AM PST by gesully (gesully)
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To: xzins
Corrola's From the mid teens and Camry's From High Teens, Low Twenty's. That's not exactly pricey. Honda Civic And Accord are also similarly priced.
82 posted on 03/02/2006 7:58:14 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Beware the Democratic party has been over run by CRAB PEOPLE!)
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To: Graybeard58

Our only choice is to use prison labor and eliminate child worker laws.


83 posted on 03/02/2006 8:04:18 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: spikeytx86
If You want a truck or SUV go with Chevy.

SUV? JeeP. O||||||||O
84 posted on 03/02/2006 8:05:23 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Graybeard58
1998 Chrysler Concorde with over 120K miles on it now.

the only maintenance thing (beyond what happened in my wreck) is that I waited too long to get the brake pads checked out and ended up scoring the rotors as well.

Eventually it will need an alternator, but as of right now, it's running as good at 8 years old as it did at 3 when I bought it.
85 posted on 03/02/2006 8:07:49 AM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952+ replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: spikeytx86

I wouldn't touch an SUV from Chevy.

Give me my Jeep.....


86 posted on 03/02/2006 8:08:17 AM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952+ replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: Collier

I wish Honda or Toyota, or any of the car manufacturers, for that matter, would produce a hybrid minivan in the US. There is one on the road in Japan already. It is a Toyota, but a little smaller than the Siena.


87 posted on 03/02/2006 8:09:48 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
That would be sweet. Ford could increase it's sales by making a hybrid version of the freestar. They did it with the escape.
88 posted on 03/02/2006 8:17:01 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Beware the Democratic party has been over run by CRAB PEOPLE!)
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To: spikeytx86

Yeah. I've been wondering if Ford might do a Freestar Hybrid. I also don't see why they couldn't do a Freestyle Hybrid. I think they're cute; they kinda remind me of the Subaru SUV/wagons.


89 posted on 03/02/2006 8:28:33 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: RipSawyer
No, it [Ford] needs to move to REASONABLE WAGE America! People in low wage America have a problem buying groceries.

Then it would stand to reason that low-wage America is more in need of a Ford plant.

As an aside (general question to the forum), does anybody else here think that some of as are confusing Consumer Reports with the Consumer Union?

90 posted on 03/02/2006 8:29:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Alberta's Child

In Japan, Mazda (aka in Japan as Matsuda) is considered the Fords of Japanese cars.


91 posted on 03/02/2006 8:33:46 AM PST by BobDobbs9911
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To: MikefromOhio

My 1987 Toyota Van Wagon has over 345,000 miles and the engine hasn't been touched yet.


92 posted on 03/02/2006 8:35:58 AM PST by BobDobbs9911
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To: BobDobbs9911

I purchased a Nissan Pathfinder in 1992, drove it to 160K, never did a thing to it, swapped to my brother-in-law for a ratty old pick-up I needed to do some hauling. The Pathfinder is still running and over 250K. Brakes and a timing belt are all the maintenance it ever had.

I bought a 2002 GMC Envoy and it's a piece of crap. The coating on the radio knobs wore off in about 2 months. They replaced the radio and the new coatings wore off in the same amount of time. They said "we'll replace it every time". That's what's wrong with US-designed cars, they think you want to visit them to have things fixed. Japenese-designed cars don't need fixin'. The Envoy also has multiple pieces of lose wind-seal rubber that I push back on every day or so, a poorly fit rear door, and a bad ride. It sits cock-eyed and has since I bought it. No dealer has been able to fix this, claiming it's made that way, driver-side bias one fool claimed. It's the last US-designed car I'll ever buy.

Instead, I can buy a Japanese-designed, US-built car from Honda, Toyota or Nissan, from a plant with highly skilled, well-paid US citizens as employees. I can also purchase stock in these companies, as any Japanese can purchase stock in GM/Ford. It is not patriotic to support inefficient, poorly run US auto companies when the Japanese companies will soon employ more Americans than they do. Capital should reward value and quality, not complacency and laziness. Read the WSJ article about the auto industry job bank if you want a taste of how foolish these companies are. If you like the product, fine, but nobody should claim that buying an American lemon is something that's good for the country.


93 posted on 03/02/2006 8:57:14 AM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: MatD

I want a Vincent Black Shadow.

To be serious, maybe if the big three didn't pay billions for people not to work, the prices would be lower and the quality would be higher.


94 posted on 03/02/2006 9:23:05 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: Graybeard58
"Consumer Reports said Japanese and Korean brands had 12 problems per 100 vehicles, while U.S. automakers had 18 problems and European makers had 21 problems."

And folks wonder why consumers buy Japanese cars instead of 'Murican.

My Acura Integra has held up VERY well. I've had ONE "premature failure" of a piece of equipment on it--the radiator "sprung a leak" at about 100K miles and had to be replaced.

95 posted on 03/02/2006 9:26:26 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: usafsk

From what I know of the American automotive industry there are very serious problems they can't seem to unlearn.


96 posted on 03/02/2006 9:41:07 AM PST by BobDobbs9911
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To: Wonder Warthog

I changed the original water pump in my 1987 Toyota Van Wagon at 340,000 miles.


97 posted on 03/02/2006 9:42:20 AM PST by BobDobbs9911
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To: Graybeard58

I don't put much stock in these consumer magazines. They rank the Ford Ranger low and the Ford Ranger has proven to me to be a very reliable, cheap and worthy small truck.

I don't care how good you folks tell me the Jap cars are, I don't like them and I'm never going to buy one. I find them overpriced, overrated, overhyped, underpowered and uninspiring.

I once had a co-worker who said he would never buy an American vehicle so he went out and bought a Mazda Tribute. I had to explain to him he just bought a Ford Escape with Mazda badges. He wouldn't listen.


98 posted on 03/02/2006 9:55:03 AM PST by 38special (Your Import Sucks)
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To: Joan Kerrey
Our only choice is to use prison labor and eliminate child worker laws.

Like BMW in South Carolina, Hyundai in Alabama, et al?

99 posted on 03/02/2006 10:04:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Graybeard58

Most of the Japanese brands are manufactured in the US or Canada with up to 75% domestic-made parts. The names are high on the list because of engineering, not because American workers suck.


100 posted on 03/02/2006 10:34:04 AM PST by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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