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Katrina: Over the Top or Under the Radar? (Video leaked by Dem staffer on DHS Senate Committee)
American Spectator ^ | The Washington Prowler

Posted on 03/02/2006 9:19:38 AM PST by slowhand520

Katrina: Over the Top or Under the Radar? - Thursday, March 02, 2006 @ 10:03:26 AM

We're hearing from some sources on Capitol Hill that the AP's big story this morning on President Bush's pre-Katrina briefing (with both a video of the conference call, as well as documents that were leaked to the AP), was pulled together and leaked by Democratic staff on the Senate Homeland Security Committee, which has been holding hearings on the matter.

In speaking with White House sources, they say the video of the conference call between the President (who was at his ranch in Texas) and FEMA and Homeland Security officials was made available to Government Accountability Office investigators for their report, which was made public earlier this year. The White House believes GAO officials shared the video with Democratic staff.

As seems to be an almost weekly occurrence, the fellows over at Powerline take apart the so-called "explosive" report about the videotape and the leaked materials. Basically, the AP reporters have taken apples and oranges and attempted to make lemonade.

That's what happens when reporters who know little about a subject beforehand, and have no real interest in getting down to the nitty gritty, sit down with sources with axes to grind, who spin them for all they're worth. The result? A highly inaccurate story. The only upside is that perhaps this takes the Dubai port story down a couple notches.

Posted By: The Washington Prowler


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mediabias
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1 posted on 03/02/2006 9:19:42 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

Democrats Piss Me Off!


2 posted on 03/02/2006 9:20:56 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: slowhand520

once again I say

where is the story?


the MSM is worthless


4 posted on 03/02/2006 9:23:13 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: slowhand520

Gee...they had a discussion speculating that Katrina could be very dangereous. (Duh). ...Much ado about nothing.


5 posted on 03/02/2006 9:23:15 AM PST by knightshadow
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To: slowhand520
Once again the Conservative BLOGGERS & radio talk show hosts will expose the MSM as nothing but Democrat/Leftist hacks.

If it weren't so damn serious it would be comical.

6 posted on 03/02/2006 9:23:29 AM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: slowhand520

EVERYBODY expressed concerns ovwer the levies in New Orleans before Katrina. This story has about as much credibility as the one that only GWB said Saddam had WMD's. The MSM has a penchant for trying to turn common knowledge into a scandal-they never give up.


7 posted on 03/02/2006 9:23:44 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: BushFault; darkwing104
It's BushFault's fault!

Signed up today, and having a grand time on a lot of threads already, eh?

8 posted on 03/02/2006 9:23:45 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, ya'll.)
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To: slowhand520

Rush's substitute just said on air that the tape was made available to NBC last year. NBC confirmed that they had the tape last year. AP lied again. They didn't have secret leaked tapes.


9 posted on 03/02/2006 9:24:52 AM PST by Republican Red ("How good is it? Al-Jazeera gave it 4 1/2 pipe bombs")
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To: darkwing104
Never mind... BushFault got the ZOT while I was composing the previous message.
10 posted on 03/02/2006 9:25:29 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, ya'll.)
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To: slowhand520

I get so tired of the "Bush was warned" mantra. With all the "Levees Might Break" headlines in the run up to Katrina, only those who were illiterate and/or blind and deaf were unaware of the risk. Like most of the country, response efforts on the federal, state and local levels were lulled into thinking the danger had passed once the hurrican blew itself out. Obviously, the response could have been better. Bush's only failure was trusting those he had appointed to do a good job. Brown has to take the rap for this one.


11 posted on 03/02/2006 9:27:26 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: PISANO
Yes but the damage is already done. Perception is everything. You think the media is going to correct this piece of propaganda? Bush is having a horrible 2 weeks. Most of it is gratuitous. He or any human being does not deserve this kind of daily torment. Karma baby, karma.
12 posted on 03/02/2006 9:28:16 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: slowhand520

According to Roger Hedgecock (subbing for Rush), the video was provided to NBC and the presstitutes in August of 2005.
Either way, the presstitutes are lying, creepy, liars....


13 posted on 03/02/2006 9:30:10 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: slowhand520
I remember that even the Weather Channel was begging for people to flee the areas. Really, I think it just proves that even almighty government agencies are no match and NEVER WILL BE for an act of God. Our expectations of what government can actually do is the problem.
14 posted on 03/02/2006 9:30:15 AM PST by tertiary01 (I can't wait until I grow up and smugly know all the answers like many other FRers)
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To: slowhand520
This tape is a whole lot of nothing. If people chose not to evacuate or evacuated to an area 12 feat below sea-level, who's fault is that? I heard nothing from the tape about the levees breaking just being topped. Either way, everyone should have evacuated, like they did with Rita, but there is a difference between topping which is a foot of water and breaking which is 12 feet of water. Not only is New Orleans a chocolate city, it must also be the biggest non-insured city.
15 posted on 03/02/2006 9:31:51 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: slowhand520
The media knows that Nagin's idiocy has undone any damage to the Preisdent so they are attempting to change the subject from the failure of the local officials to the President.

Fake polls released yesterday showing that people in NO blame the President and absolve Nagin and BlankO of any culpability.

The MSM must have polled the dead people still unidentified in the NO morgue.

16 posted on 03/02/2006 9:32:40 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: finnman69

This is a non story. The ENTIRE NATION saw this storm coming for an entire WEEK. How stupid does Nagin have to be? They are still stuck on stupid.


17 posted on 03/02/2006 9:38:15 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: slowhand520

Let me remind you that the PERCEPTION on Election Day was that lurch was going to win. Almost ALL polls said so, and the exit polling data said so, but it was NOT so.

Perception is just that. It has no power other than to aid those that want to deceive themselves.

Truth will win out over this contrived crap also!

LLS


18 posted on 03/02/2006 9:39:46 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: dfwgator
Democrats Piss Me Off!

DPMO PING!!!!!


19 posted on 03/02/2006 9:41:14 AM PST by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: slowhand520
Anything about Katrina has zero interest to me. I hear it and I cahnge the station. Couldn't care less.

And when I see these leeches protested their loss of free hotel rooms after all these months...I get furious.

20 posted on 03/02/2006 9:41:20 AM PST by riri (Bring back A+ Bert...(:)
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To: slowhand520

Can you say unemployment line? Why do we keep these people around?


21 posted on 03/02/2006 9:43:03 AM PST by madison10
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To: slowhand520

I saw this latest hit piece on our local FOX News station and was disappointed. Watching my local FOX News station anymore is no different than watching the other alphabet channels - exact copies, even the gross errors and obvious biased reporting.


22 posted on 03/02/2006 9:47:36 AM PST by caisson71
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To: LibLieSlayer

A guy I knew used to say "The one person you never lie to is yourself". (He was a Finance guy, a Controller, so his bosses grew thoughful whenever he'd say it!)


23 posted on 03/02/2006 9:47:51 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Juan Medén

I was telling my wife that "before it landed I knew the levees might not hold - the paper says they are built for a Class 4 and you have a Class 5 coming in - doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out".

Mayfield would be on the news days before saying how they need to get out of New Orleans now! That this has the potential to be devasting.

I don't recall the exact quote, but I think that Bush's comment about "nobody thought the levees would break" might be technicaly true - they thought they would be overtopped.

More importantly I think the comment points out that "no one thought it could be this bad (bad stuff only happens in thrid world countries)". The media had headlines saying as much. Rock stars and politicians both would say things like "it looks like something you would see in Bangladesh - not the United States".


24 posted on 03/02/2006 9:48:20 AM PST by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: slowhand520

Leaked? These were released to the press by the White House last year, the day after the hurricane hit New Orleans.


25 posted on 03/02/2006 9:48:40 AM PST by mak5
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To: slowhand520


So let me getthis tr8.

The President knew a hurricane was coming sometime during the entire hurricane season, AND DIDN`T STOP IT !?

Impeachable offense for sure.


26 posted on 03/02/2006 9:49:17 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: mak5

Right. I think they mean the copy and paste version that we see on the news


27 posted on 03/02/2006 9:50:11 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: riri

I know what you mean....I can't stand to hear any more whining about it, which is every night on the news. After Andrew hit Florida back when, we kept hearing alot about that also but it was always positive...how people were cleaning up and rebuilding. But with Katrina, all you hear
is how somebody isn't getting what they want and everybody is just sitting around looking at their devastation. What do they want views to do exactly? ARGHHHH!


28 posted on 03/02/2006 9:50:18 AM PST by happilymarriedmom
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To: dfwgator

Republicans Piss me off. When something damaging to the democrats (memos from the judiciary comm.) are leaked, the Republicans go after the leaker and bury the leaked material. This one sided parade of leaked materials has to stop and stop NOW!!!


29 posted on 03/02/2006 9:50:19 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: slowhand520

I highly recommend the Powerline demolition of the AP story. The "Bush Knew" meme is based on the briefing expert predicting that the levees might be "topped" or have some spillage; the possiblity that they would give way is not mentioned at all.


30 posted on 03/02/2006 9:54:10 AM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: slowhand520

Hmmmm, maybe some republican staffer can leak the minutes of the meeting between the President and Blanco. You guys remember the one, where Blanco said she needed 24 hours to decide whether or not to allow the feds to step in.


31 posted on 03/02/2006 10:05:50 AM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: denydenydeny
The problem is that it's Powerline, not the White House. (But thanks Powerline!!!) Instead of saying, "the President was fully engaged at all times," why don't they just say, "Piss off! They were talking about the levees overflowing, not falling down. The President wasn't the one crying on TV how bad things were nor was he the one who turned the NOLA school bus fleet into an inland coral reef."
32 posted on 03/02/2006 10:11:39 AM PST by Dahoser (Time to condense the nonsense: Terry Tate for White House spokesman.)
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To: knightshadow

Not only does this bit of videotape SHOW the President was entirely on the ball about sending a warning to Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin (which they did not respond to in a timely fashion), but that the Dem'crats are once again complicit in arranging yet another rope-a-dope for themselves.

The accursed masochists set themselves up again. Sometimes, no matter how they temporize, Bush really does the right thing.


33 posted on 03/02/2006 10:16:52 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: slowhand520

bump


34 posted on 03/02/2006 10:18:36 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: madison10

What are you suggesting? Kill them?


35 posted on 03/02/2006 10:25:10 AM PST by ocd liberal
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To: McGavin999
Was that while the Mayor was procrastinating about using the buses to evacuate the city?
36 posted on 03/02/2006 10:27:24 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: slowhand520
I offer in evidence this article from the National Geographic from OCTOBER OF 2004, detailing precisely what happened in NO, 11 MONTHS before the fact! Since I doubt that NG has a line to the Weekly World News, I'm going to jump to the conclusion that, although Nagin and company knew what could happen, they chose to ignore it because the warnings were coming from Republicans.

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/index.html?fs=www7.nationalgeographic.com

37 posted on 03/02/2006 10:32:36 AM PST by jonascord ("As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!")
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To: slowhand520
I offer in evidence this article from the National Geographic from OCTOBER OF 2004, detailing precisely what happened in NO, 11 MONTHS before the fact! Since I doubt that NG has a line to the Weekly World News, I'm going to jump to the conclusion that, although Nagin and company knew what could happen, they chose to ignore it because the warnings were coming from Republicans.

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/index.html?fs=www7.nationalgeographic.com

38 posted on 03/02/2006 10:32:39 AM PST by jonascord ("As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!")
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To: Republican Red

"Rush's substitute just said on air that the tape was made available to NBC last year. NBC confirmed that they had the tape last year. AP lied again. They didn't have secret leaked tapes"

So the held on to this information and released it now for what purpose? The port issue on hold for 45 days, so they decided to move on?.


39 posted on 03/02/2006 10:38:30 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: finnman69
where is the story?

How about the fact that Bush lied to the American people when he said "Nobody expected the levees to fail"? Not only was it expected, but he was apparently warned specifically.

I have supported Bush through thick and thin, but he lied. Plain and simple.

40 posted on 03/02/2006 10:39:36 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (Olfrygt: the nagging fear of being unable to find beer while out of town.)
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To: Spok
"EVERYBODY expressed concerns ovwer the levies in New Orleans before Katrina. This story has about as much credibility as the one that only GWB said Saddam had WMD's. The MSM has a penchant for trying to turn common knowledge into a scandal-they never give up."

I just returned from coffee with friends where this was discussed. My friends are left leaning Independants and she saw it as confirmation that it was Bush's fault and that Nagin was doing all he could. "Bush KNEW the levy's wouldn't hold.". I said that I too knew the levy's wouldn't hold and that a Cat 5 hurricane was bearing down on them! DUH! Heck, last time we were in NOLA together we joked it being under sea level and that 'one of these days....'.

They are also waiting for all the "lies told to the Senators" by Alito and Roberts to come out re: abortion...some case in one of the Dakotas I think. The MSM is accomplishing their goal, IMHO. I don't think they'll get the impeachment they are after tho, just tarnish the name. He'll be remembered like Nixon.

41 posted on 03/02/2006 10:42:57 AM PST by sweet_diane (tagline to be announced.)
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To: riri

Thank you. We will keep you in our prayers as well.


42 posted on 03/02/2006 10:44:02 AM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: All
I believe there is now a standing order at all the networks, wire services and newspapers that everyday their must be a story attacking the President.
It is not an exaggeration to say that the press is in full "Jihad" mode. They will remain in this mode until Bush leaves office.
Essentially what is going on is a an orchestrated slow-motion coup.
43 posted on 03/02/2006 10:46:42 AM PST by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: Lunatic Fringe
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/index.html?fs=www7.nationalgeographic.com

Without further comment...

44 posted on 03/02/2006 10:48:05 AM PST by jonascord ("As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!")
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Your screen name suits you. The weatherman said some overtopping/flooding was possible, not that 80% fo the city would be underwater.

Be my guest carry water for the MSM and the left.


45 posted on 03/02/2006 10:48:13 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: dfwgator

why hasn't the leaker been arrested? This is a national security issue.


46 posted on 03/02/2006 10:50:05 AM PST by balch3
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To: slowhand520
What I got from the video was that they knew the storm was going to be big and that they wanted Louisiana to evacuate.
47 posted on 03/02/2006 10:51:38 AM PST by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

So you believe that "topped" has the same meaning as "breached"? Please find a dictionary.


48 posted on 03/02/2006 10:51:38 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: slowhand520

In other news, New Orleans Mayor Nagin just ordered the city's school busses to start evacuating the city.


49 posted on 03/02/2006 10:51:42 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
How about the fact that Bush lied to the American people when he said "Nobody expected the levees to fail"? Not only was it expected, but he was apparently warned specifically. I have supported Bush through thick and thin, but he lied. Plain and simple.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1588661/posts
Media continues to ignore Bush's clarification on levy breach comment (Whitehouse.gov Transcript) From September 12, 2005.

Q Did they misinform you when you said that no one anticipated the breach of the levees?

THE PRESIDENT: No, what I was referring to is this. When that storm came by, a lot of people said we dodged a bullet. When that storm came through at first, people said, whew. There was a sense of relaxation, and that's what I was referring to. And I, myself, thought we had dodged a bullet. You know why? Because I was listening to people, probably over the airways, say, the bullet has been dodged. And that was what I was referring to.

Of course, there were plans in case the levee had been breached. There was a sense of relaxation in the moment, a critical moment. And thank you for giving me a chance to clarify that.

50 posted on 03/02/2006 10:53:49 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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