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Fast-Food Ice Dirtier Than Toilet Water
ABCNews ^ | 3/1/05 | staff

Posted on 03/02/2006 10:35:01 AM PST by XR7

Seventh-Grader's Science Project Turns Up Some Disturbing Results

NEW YORK - Jasmine Roberts never expected her award-winning middle school science project to get so much attention. But the project produced some disturbing results: 70 percent of the time, ice from fast food restaurants was dirtier than toilet water.

The 12-year-old collected ice samples from five restaurants in South Florida -- from both self-serve machines inside the restaurant and from drive-thru windows. She then collected toilet water samples from the same restaurants and tested all of them for bacteria at the University of South Florida.

In several cases, the ice tested positive for E. coli bacteria, which comes from human waste and has been linked to several illness outbreaks across the country.

"These [bacteria] don't belong there," said Dr. David Katz, medical contributor to "Good Morning America." "It's not cause for panic, although it is alarming because what she found is nothing new. You're not more likely to get sick now. But she's done us a favor by sounding the alarm."

Both Roberts and Katz said that the ice is likely dirtier because machines aren't cleaned and people use unwashed hands to scoop ice. Toilet water is also surprisingly bacteria-free, because it comes from sanitized city water supplies.

Support from Big Brother

Roberts got interested in the project after reading a newspaper article about bacteria in airplane water and decided to do something similar. Plus, she said, all of her friends chew on ice, and it drives her crazy.

"I just picked the not-obvious choice," the seventh-grader said of her project.

Her 18-year-old brother, Justus, is also an award-winning science fair veteran who said he has encouraged his little sister's interest in science.

Justus said when Jasmine told him her idea for this project, "I gave her a high five, then said, 'You're a strange little kid.' But I supported her all the way."

The restaurants also have taken notice of Roberts' project. Two began new sanitary policies and have asked her to come back and do her tests again.

"First they appreciated the project," she said. "And one location even asked me to come back and test the temperature of their food."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bacteria; burgerandfries; burgerking; burgers; cheeseburger; contamination; drinkingwater; ecoli; fastfood; fecalmatter; feces; h2o; ice; mcdonalds; pollution; potable; publichealth; restaurants; toilet; water; waterpollution
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70 percent of the time, ice from fast food restaurants was dirtier than toilet water.

Ick.
And I always thought asking for icewater with my burger was the healthier thing to do.

1 posted on 03/02/2006 10:35:02 AM PST by XR7
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To: XR7
Plus, she said, all of her friends chew on ice, and it drives her crazy.

This will put a stop to that right quick.

2 posted on 03/02/2006 10:36:16 AM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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To: XR7

I think i'm going to hurl...........


3 posted on 03/02/2006 10:36:25 AM PST by jw777
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To: XR7

My dog is looking very smug as I read this...


4 posted on 03/02/2006 10:36:31 AM PST by Kenton
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To: XR7
You didn't get that memo?

I will take a number 7, with super-sized fries and extra large toilet bowl water....




to go!
5 posted on 03/02/2006 10:36:55 AM PST by jdm (I do not allow any liberal to swim, er, ride in my car.)
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To: Kenton

l o l


6 posted on 03/02/2006 10:38:20 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: XR7

Some of the things you expect to be clean get a far worser cleanliness regimen than some of the things you expect to be dirty.

Toilets are probably cleaned more often than restaurant pepper/salt shakers. Therefore one can expect the latter to be dirtier than the former.

Same with keyboards and telephones.


7 posted on 03/02/2006 10:38:43 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: XR7
Already Here - sort of
8 posted on 03/02/2006 10:40:44 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Kenton

LMBO! I'm sure my cat will have a purr at my expense, too...


9 posted on 03/02/2006 10:41:09 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: XR7

Very smart girl. This is going to be one of the classic school science projects, like the one decades ago where the student built accelerometers to measure the maximum g-force a package was subjected to, and mailed them in ordinary packages and packages labeled "fragile", "special handling" etc. All of the accelerometers recorded very high forces, except for the ones the post office broke.


10 posted on 03/02/2006 10:43:35 AM PST by omega4412
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To: jw777

"Fecal Frosties"..


11 posted on 03/02/2006 10:44:38 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: XR7

Problem is, most kids that work in fast-food restaurants don't even wash their hands after they use the toilet.

A study done in a public men's restroom at JFK Airport in NYC...this was OBSERVED behavior...showed that 41% of men who used the restroom didn't wash afterwards. An almost equal number of women were the same.

No wonder this bright young lady found those germs!
All together now...

Ewww.


12 posted on 03/02/2006 10:45:19 AM PST by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the only option....)
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To: XR7
Both Roberts and Katz said that the ice is likely dirtier because machines aren't cleaned and people use unwashed hands to scoop ice. Toilet water is also surprisingly bacteria-free, because it comes from sanitized city water supplies.

So basically she is testing tap water from the toilet and tap water with human had contamination from ice handling. Results not at all surprising.

13 posted on 03/02/2006 10:45:37 AM PST by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Butt Blizzards


14 posted on 03/02/2006 10:45:42 AM PST by jw777
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To: sheik yerbouty

"Yes, I'll have 2 E Coli burgers, a side order of raw sewage, and a diet swamp water."


15 posted on 03/02/2006 10:48:17 AM PST by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the only option....)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Therefore one can expect the latter to be dirtier than the former.

It depends on how you define "clean." Toilet water still have chemicals and deposits in them, including the agents from cleaning solutions.

Salt and pepper shakers basically have your obligatory bacteria on them.

16 posted on 03/02/2006 10:48:36 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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To: XR7
I wonder about bagged ice?

I wish there were testing standards, I do like ice, but I don't want to tote it from home all the time.

17 posted on 03/02/2006 10:49:53 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That's true. Maybe I should have stated 'organically inactive'.


18 posted on 03/02/2006 10:50:06 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: XR7
In Houston they have a regular reporter of these kinds of things!!


Slime!!! In the Ice Machine!!!!!

19 posted on 03/02/2006 10:50:24 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous"---Hobbes the Tiger)
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To: hoagy62
Problem is, most kids that work in fast-food restaurants don't even wash their hands after they use the toilet.

And those who wash their hands thoroughly still have to grab that door handle to exit the restroom.

20 posted on 03/02/2006 10:52:02 AM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: XR7
Wonder where they get their water for the ice?


21 posted on 03/02/2006 10:52:18 AM PST by CougarGA7 (There's no cure for stupid.)
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To: XR7
This is absolutely intolerable.

I don't like it, so I expect 79 laws, regulations, and mandates to passed by all levels of legislatures immediately! Where's Hillary?? Where's Rev. Al? I'm sure this hits women and children the hardest...

Oh, and where is the President while his subjects are slowly being poisoned by rich, white male restaurant owners? Vacationing in the Middle East, I suppose...that figures. This is ALL BUSH'S FAULT!

22 posted on 03/02/2006 10:52:19 AM PST by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: rawcatslyentist


Marvin Zindler...the only one that can say he remembers when Helen Thomas was a child.


23 posted on 03/02/2006 10:54:50 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: XR7

Home of the Whopper takes on a whole new meaning.


24 posted on 03/02/2006 10:56:06 AM PST by caddie
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To: rawcatslyentist

Did you ever see the bottom of an ice bin in a bar? Talk about slime.


25 posted on 03/02/2006 10:57:15 AM PST by synbad600
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To: XR7

We watched an employee at a fast food restaurant clean the bathroom then wipe off the dispensers for the ice and the soda with the same rag. Told the manager.


26 posted on 03/02/2006 11:01:02 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: jw777
"Butt Blizzards"

LOL!!! Got to remember that one...

27 posted on 03/02/2006 11:01:11 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: XR7
Puts a new light on a Coke or Pepsi or other cold drink at a fast food rest..

Must be; they rarely clean out the ice bin.. and maker.. Wonder how home ice makers rate too(you know in the frig.).. prolly the same..

28 posted on 03/02/2006 11:02:19 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: XR7
I drink nothing but boiled water.
And only the steam.
That is for water
Jack Daniels is the other distillate I drink! ! !
29 posted on 03/02/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by DeaconRed (IF . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: hoagy62

"Bowel burgers au jus" Pynchonism.
I am the operator of a public utility. Water. Very strictly regulated. After it comes out of the tap, it's anybodies guess. Once, while taking a water sample for testing, I touched the inside of the lid with my thumb. Just for a split second. Test came back positive. Epa wasn't too happy 'bout that!


30 posted on 03/02/2006 11:02:51 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: XR7
Toilets are our friends. What can't we do on them?? Image hosting by Photobucket Image hosting by Photobucket Image hosting by Photobucket
31 posted on 03/02/2006 11:04:57 AM PST by Always Learning
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Once, while taking a water sample for testing, I touched the inside of the lid with my thumb. Just for a split second. Test came back positive.

Positive for what?
Typhus? Cholera? E-Coli?

32 posted on 03/02/2006 11:05:46 AM PST by XR7
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To: XR7

;)


33 posted on 03/02/2006 11:05:54 AM PST by G.Mason (Did the illegal worker in that burger place, spit on it before, or after he pick it up off the floor)
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To: XR7

Evian spelled backwards is ........


34 posted on 03/02/2006 11:08:22 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: XR7

LOL! This reminds me of something I read or saw somehwere, where the janitor of a high school cured the teen girls of blotting their lipstick by "kissing" the mirrors in the bathrooms. He took a group of the most popular girls into the loo and showed them how he cleaned the mirrors: by dipping a squeegee into the toilet bowl and then wiping the mirrors with it.

Problem instantly solved.


35 posted on 03/02/2006 11:09:42 AM PST by T Minus Four (I'm sorry you have to die.)
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To: XR7

I think I'm gonna hurl!


36 posted on 03/02/2006 11:10:08 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: CougarGA7

That drinking fountain is near slim's herman miller sheep pen ain't it......:o)


37 posted on 03/02/2006 11:10:52 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: XR7

Reminds me of our 7th grade project.

Turns out the water in Boston Harbor was cleaner than the drinking water at our camp.


38 posted on 03/02/2006 11:12:19 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Squantos; Tijeras_Slim

Yep. lol.


39 posted on 03/02/2006 11:14:38 AM PST by CougarGA7 (There's no cure for stupid.)
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To: XR7

Only 12 years old, and has already done far more science and advanced the public good far more than the entire Intelligent Design movement put together.


40 posted on 03/02/2006 11:16:17 AM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: JimSEA

I'm wondering if she used the toilet water from the tank of the toilet or the potty bowl for her samples. Big difference...


41 posted on 03/02/2006 11:21:09 AM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: XR7

After living in Germany for four years, I learned to drink without ice. It's not so bad until summertime.

Reminds me of the Houston TV personality Marvin Zindler:

"Slime in the icebox."


42 posted on 03/02/2006 11:23:27 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: XR7

go for the boiled water and toast


43 posted on 03/02/2006 11:24:17 AM PST by woofie
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To: Uncle Fud
And those who wash their hands thoroughly still have to grab that door handle to exit the restroom.

Or simply use a paper towel to grab the handle. Wouldn't be a problem if all the selfish trash would wash their hands, too.

44 posted on 03/02/2006 11:29:39 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: XR7

I wonder how careful she was with her sampling techniques?


45 posted on 03/02/2006 11:36:56 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Martins kid

Hopefully before you got your order.


46 posted on 03/02/2006 11:39:42 AM PST by kenth (Phil! Phil Connors! I thought that was you!)
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To: Kenton

Awesome.


47 posted on 03/02/2006 11:41:22 AM PST by BJClinton (Happy Birthday Texas!)
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To: Kenton

ROTFL. God that killed me.


48 posted on 03/02/2006 11:41:28 AM PST by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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To: XR7

E-Coli. It's always present. We'd never had a positive sample before. Had to do extra tests. None came up positive.


49 posted on 03/02/2006 11:42:04 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: XR7

I have worked in the food prep and service business.

Ice machines are notoriously unclean. D*mned roach magnets, among other things.


50 posted on 03/02/2006 11:49:56 AM PST by cvq3842
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