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Academic freedom under siege from right
Baltimore Sun ^ | 2/28/06 | LIONEL S. LEWIS

Posted on 03/02/2006 1:56:04 PM PST by mathprof

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To: mathprof
As Mr. Horowitz sees it, professors are often more involved in political indoctrination than in teaching students, and their message is always the same: "America is guilty; America is to blame."

And Mr. Horowitz would be correct.

41 posted on 03/02/2006 2:19:38 PM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: mathprof

So much of discussions in life comes down to DEFINITIONS.

It is ludicrous for libertarians and conservatives to hear the tripe from liberals about the "chilling effect from the right wing" on academic freedom.

How do we question this?

Simply make the LEFT define terms. Start with academic freedom.

They could define this in their emotions and heart (as apart from a dictionary, logic or common vernacular) as being able to hold fast to nothing, and believe everything they want and feel...all the while prohibiting those with whom they disagree from having anything to say whatsoever.

Simply put, you will NEVER be able to have a conversation with a socialist liberal WITHOUT defining the words you are using.


42 posted on 03/02/2006 2:20:05 PM PST by joyspring777
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Lionel S. Lewis, a professor emeritus at the State University of New York, Buffalo, is the author of "The Cold War and Academic Governance: The Lattimore Case at Johns Hopkins." His e-mail is soclsl@buffalo.edu.

Why am I not surprised that this article was written by an ex-prof who spent all of his life in academia, surrounded by fellow liberals. Just think, students (and NY taxpayers) were actually paying good money, to have this dipstick teach them.

43 posted on 03/02/2006 2:20:35 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: mathprof

There may be many different viewpoints, but the writer of the article only wishes to allow certain of them to express themselves, and this passes for open-mindedness on today's campuses....


44 posted on 03/02/2006 2:21:02 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: mathprof

I'm taking a graduate level college class right now. The atmosphere is subdued and outspoken views never occur. The professor reminds us each class that academia is a political environment. The professor is always rude to non-minority non-women in the class, always lauding others. She told us she loves the writing of bell hooks (check it out - a fabulously bigoted leftist). I stay quiet, hand in the work, and hope that her attitude doesn't leak over into the grade I receive.

Sounds like freedom in the university to me.


45 posted on 03/02/2006 2:23:47 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: DeweyCA

"The harassment of academics based on their political views has begun to exact a toll on campus life. Suspicion and distrust, always a part of campus culture, have been exacerbated."

Right you are professor! Let's get those micro-recorders rolling!


46 posted on 03/02/2006 2:23:53 PM PST by ncphinsfan
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"Academic freedom under siege from right"

This wouldn't even be a big deal if extreme leftists didn't hold 90% of faculty positions at ALL universities in the USA.

And the other point that he doesn't mention is that the media attention would be zero if the faculty behavior was within normal bounds. It is only BECAUSE the professors and teachers are so outrageous.

47 posted on 03/02/2006 2:25:50 PM PST by tom h
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To: redpoll
Make tapes and send them to: your local AM radio station, your local TV station, Fox News, and World Net Daily.

It just worked in Colorado and it will work for you, too.

48 posted on 03/02/2006 2:27:24 PM PST by tom h
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To: Marine_Uncle
I have to travel through the outskirts of Baltimore this Saturday, think I will wind down the window and spit.

The author of the editorial is from Buffalo; I'm from Baltimore. Hold your spit until the next time you go through Buffalo :)

49 posted on 03/02/2006 2:28:12 PM PST by mathprof
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To: Morgan in Denver

No offense taken and I stand corrected. Thuggery exist regardless of affiliation (although I've noticed that much more so on the lib side) but in these cases it could be vendetta for a bad grade.


50 posted on 03/02/2006 2:28:32 PM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: RoadTest

Not if it hit him at 75mph in the face....


51 posted on 03/02/2006 2:29:07 PM PST by joyspring777
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To: Morgan in Denver
Yeah, but some high school students are smarter than the leftist college students. LOL

 College students do not tend to be as leftists as they used to be.  Professors on the other hand...
 

52 posted on 03/02/2006 2:30:08 PM PST by mathprof
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Well, someone can always "out" the conservative professors on campus. Fair is fair.

 I'm always afraid of being "outed" as a conservative professor (one of probably 2 on my campus)
 

53 posted on 03/02/2006 2:32:00 PM PST by mathprof
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"I'm from Baltimore. Hold your spit until the next time you go through Buffalo :)"
I shall honor your request. Hey I lived in Catonsville, Glen Burnie, Lethicum, Herold Harbor, and some less desirable places for 15 years. Many fine memories of MD. And some sad.
54 posted on 03/02/2006 2:33:34 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: mathprof

Well, you'll simply have to take one for the team. Sorry. :)


55 posted on 03/02/2006 2:34:15 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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The problem with these leftist teachers is they rant off the subject matter they are supposed to be teaching and punish any students who dare dissent openly. All the while, the subject matter the students are supposed to be learning is ignored, and the kids learn only to keep their mouths shut and eyes open.

That is how we end up with HS graduates who have no idea what the First Amendment protects, yet can name every retard cartoon character on the planet.

I was exposed to this in school, these teachers can not be hit hard enough from enough sides at once to correct things as they stand today.

A helpful thing is the idea to get students to record these people and publicly expose them. Then the ACLU will sue and outlaw the recording of leftist teachers ranting.

Then recording nitwit leftist teachers will become cool amongst children, and the real chit storm will ensue.
56 posted on 03/02/2006 2:35:05 PM PST by mmercier (communists, queers and nitwits)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Here is a thought...

what is the profs definition of a hate crime?

Probably...if someone disagrees with him enough to report it to the college administration....HATE CRIME...Ayahhhhhh!

Make him put his definition of a hate crime down on paper!


57 posted on 03/02/2006 2:37:06 PM PST by joyspring777
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To: Brilliant

Well, I WAS impressed by the fact that he went to bat for the freedom of speach for Lawrence Summers, the President of Harvard who was just booted for his statements questioning PC positions....Oh wait, excuse me a second-

What? He didn't defend Summers???? Only left wing examples?

Oh.... never mind. It's just the same old BS.


58 posted on 03/02/2006 2:38:16 PM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: lOKKI

I got to write a paper about food trends in Africa for tomorrow. I'm going to write the most liberal, america hating piece of crap I can dream up, because if I write the truth, I have a good chance of being graded poorly.


59 posted on 03/02/2006 2:48:58 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Brilliant

Exactly.


60 posted on 03/02/2006 2:51:50 PM PST by Liberty Valance (We're going to party like it's 1836!)
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