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Senate doesn't bother to question P&O security chief about port security matters
WSJ Online ^ | 3-2-06 | Neil King Jr.

Posted on 03/02/2006 6:07:17 PM PST by STARWISE

Concerns over port security may be sky high, but the chief of security for the East Coast's main port operator, Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co., hardly knew it when he sat before a Senate Commerce panel on Tuesday.

More than a dozen senators grilled U.S. government officials, and the chief operator officer of Dubai Ports World, which is on the verge of acquiring P&O and all its world-wide port operations. But no senator had a single question for Robert Scavone, the man who oversees P&O's security for North America -- and will do the same for DP World.

Scavone said later that the whole issue of a potential security threat in the DP World acquisition has left him baffled. "Nobody touches a box or moves a box unless he's a longshoreman," he said. Nor will anything change on the U.S. side of the operation. If DP World seeks to change a senior management position in the U.S., the government will get to weigh in on the choice.

"I've been wracking my brain to try to figure what bad thing might happen if someone seven levels up the chain buys the company, and I just can't think of anything," he said.

His remarks came as Deputy Treasury Secretary Robert Kimmitt defended the administration's review of the deal before a House panel on Wednesday. Critics have blasted the administration for undertaking a formal 30-day review, instead of a 45-day one, even though the administration first made contact with DP World in mid-October. "Staff spent nearly 90 days reviewing this transaction," Kimmitt said.

DP World has since requested the government to open a new, 45-day review.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; bds; bush; dolts; dpw; dubaiportsworld; iran; israel; kimmitt; pando; peninsularoriental; po; ports; robertscavone; scavone; security; senate; senatedolts; uae
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The very man who could've provided them with solid security procedural information doesn't even pique the interest of our congressional dolts? What does this say about their transparent goal?
1 posted on 03/02/2006 6:07:21 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: Howlin

Ping


2 posted on 03/02/2006 6:07:44 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: STARWISE

Very interesting, indeed - thanks for the heads up - I guess this guy will keep a sharp watch out for all those A-Rabs sneaking in at least ; )


3 posted on 03/02/2006 6:12:14 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: STARWISE


They don't want to hear the answers he will give them...


4 posted on 03/02/2006 6:13:49 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: STARWISE

The fact is none of them know enough to ask an intelligent question. All they can do is cry and whine.


5 posted on 03/02/2006 6:14:32 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: STARWISE

so they spent 90 days doing a 30 day review? ...and Congress is complaining that they didn't spend 45 days on it?


6 posted on 03/02/2006 6:20:22 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks Star.


7 posted on 03/02/2006 6:22:02 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for this most interesting post. Dolts is putting it to kindly.


8 posted on 03/02/2006 6:25:04 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: STARWISE

Security? Security? We don't need no Steenkin' security!


9 posted on 03/02/2006 6:26:22 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: Peach; CWOJackson; new yorker 77; MNJohnnie; LibertyLee

Not one question. And they tell us this is about Security????


10 posted on 03/02/2006 6:27:03 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: STARWISE
It is the GOP that has overreacted here giving the opposition Party fuel for the firestorm.

The DIMS and their buddies known as the MSM condemn EVERYTHING this administration does whether it is TOO MUCH SECURITY [Electronic Surveillance], TOO LITTLE SECURITY [DPW], too much "GO IT ALONE" or too much "DIPLOMACY".

Never in the history of this nation has so much Bull Sh.t been passed off as the truth [by the MSM and the Dim Party] as it has the past few years.

The truly SAD and DISGRACEFUL fact is our NATION is at WAR, our men and women are sacrificing life and limb to ensure our freedom here at home and give others, who never had it, a chance to embrace it, and the enemy within is doing everything possible to make sure that the C-in-C and his troops LOSE!!!

11 posted on 03/02/2006 6:28:58 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: PISANO

That's the absolute truth. You need to send this to Rush.


12 posted on 03/02/2006 6:41:14 PM PST by BARLF
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To: mystery-ak
They don't want to hear the answers he will give them...

They don't want to hear;
-truth
-reality
-facts
-expert witness
-anything to disrupt their tunnel vision focus against GWB

13 posted on 03/02/2006 6:41:34 PM PST by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: STARWISE
If the concern is the company will endanger our ports, then they would have to start with some evidence that this company has endangered the security of some port somewhere, at some time.

I've not heard one allegation yet. Who do I have to ask to get one?

14 posted on 03/02/2006 6:43:57 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr

Not one question by the 100 most worthless Senators.


15 posted on 03/02/2006 6:49:43 PM PST by jocko12
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To: jocko12
Not one question by the 100 most worthless Senators.

Actually, I've not yet heard one credible allegation by anyone, anywhere.

Without evidence, what is all the hubbub about?

If folks are arguing this will make our ports unsafe, surely they must have evidence that this company has in the past made other ports unsafe, yes???

16 posted on 03/02/2006 6:51:29 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: PISANO

Sad sad sad ... and it truly is what it's come to. Anything fo party and power, to h*ll with the country's survival and the lives of our brave military.


17 posted on 03/02/2006 7:08:23 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: STARWISE
Anything fo party and power, to h*ll with the country's survival and the lives of our brave military.

I'd be curious -- do you have any specific allegation that this company has ever in the past endangered a port anywhere by 'stevedoring'???

(What a word that is, eh? I never heard that before this debate.)

18 posted on 03/02/2006 7:23:25 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: STARWISE

You know exactly what it says.


19 posted on 03/02/2006 7:24:44 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: sgtbono2002
The fact is none of them know enough to ask an intelligent question.

LOL.

20 posted on 03/02/2006 7:25:18 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: STARWISE

port ping


21 posted on 03/02/2006 7:26:09 PM PST by Dinah Lord (fighting the islamic jihad one keystroke at a time...)
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To: lepton
and Congress is complaining that they didn't spend 45 days on it?

Congress is complaining about them not doing a "mandated" review that isn't even mandated.

It ought to scare the hell out of everybody here that these fools are running this country.

22 posted on 03/02/2006 7:26:15 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Dominic Harr
Who do I have to ask to get one?

LOL.....well, you've asked all the Unappeasables on FR; who's left?

23 posted on 03/02/2006 7:28:05 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: sinkspur; onyx; McGavin999; OldFriend; Txsleuth; Miss Marple; Cannoneer No. 4; nunya bidness; ...

Ping!


24 posted on 03/02/2006 7:33:15 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin
who's left?

:-)

Yah, I've about run the fun out of this line.

Just about time to go play civ, and leave the Freeping to those with some idea of what's going on in the world.

25 posted on 03/02/2006 7:35:46 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Howlin

Hillary Clinton was too busy getting in front of a microphone to actually ask a question.


26 posted on 03/02/2006 7:37:31 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Howlin
It ought to scare the hell out of everybody here that these fools are running this country.

It scares me that a grandstander like Norm Coleman is anywhere near the levers of power in the Senate.

This issue is no longer about the security of the country. It's about these cowards pulling their butts out of the fire which THEY lit!!!!

27 posted on 03/02/2006 7:38:25 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: STARWISE

This was Tuesday's hearings...and it is just now being written about...and it will never see the light of MSM.

The little bit of the Senate hearing that I saw the other day, had only Democrat Senators asking questions...and I was really disappointed.

Just like the hastily called hearing last week...only Sen. Warner was in attendance for that one on the GOP side.


28 posted on 03/02/2006 7:41:05 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-bot, bucket-brigader,and fan of defconw)
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To: Democratshavenobrains

She's always trying to get out in front of the parade, isn't she?

If only someone would ask her why, if it's such a bad deal with a bad company, her husband is trying to get his friends jobs there.

How long should we wait?


29 posted on 03/02/2006 7:41:53 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: zook

I meant to ping you to this one.


30 posted on 03/02/2006 7:42:16 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping.


31 posted on 03/02/2006 7:43:05 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-bot, bucket-brigader,and fan of defconw)
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To: sinkspur
It's about these cowards pulling their butts out of the fire which THEY lit!!!!

I'm wondering if they will admit they are wrong.

32 posted on 03/02/2006 7:44:34 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin

And, her husband's Sec. of State, Maddy Albright's lobbying firm is handling the Dubai company.

I also want these Congresscritters, that keep saying that the difference between the British firm and the Dubai firm is that the Dubai firm is govrernment-owned instead of a private company, WHY that makes a difference where security is concerned.

I am sure a terrorist can infiltrate a private company easier than a government-owned company, or at least the same.


33 posted on 03/02/2006 7:47:48 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-bot, bucket-brigader,and fan of defconw)
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To: STARWISE

I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not.


34 posted on 03/02/2006 7:49:58 PM PST by PogySailor (CPL PogySailor coming home from Iraq in April!)
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To: Howlin
I'm wondering if they will admit they are wrong.

I'll win "American Idol" before that happens.

35 posted on 03/02/2006 7:51:05 PM PST by PogySailor (CPL PogySailor coming home from Iraq in April!)
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To: PogySailor

Which one are you? :-)


36 posted on 03/02/2006 7:51:51 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Dominic Harr

I've not heard anything negative in that vein ... on the contrary, they operate in so many global ports, I don't know how they could achieve the success they have if they weren't stringent on security. Their business would demand it.


37 posted on 03/02/2006 7:55:09 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: Howlin

This says chapters about our critters in the Senate....where were the people who know what we allready know. These people are clueless and need to be replaced.

We have better canidates here at FR.


38 posted on 03/02/2006 7:56:03 PM PST by TheLion
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To: STARWISE
Their business would demand it.

That's what I've heard, too.

It's just odd -- I would have thought that those who are arguing that this deal will make our ports unsafe would have asked if this company ever made any other ports unsafe before . . .

Seems like that's the natural first step.

39 posted on 03/02/2006 7:57:19 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: MNJohnnie
This is not about security, we all know that. It is about perception. The majority of Americans, which is compised of a large amount of republicans, PERCIEVE that this is a bad thing, that they will get blown to bits, or shot, or stabbed, or beheaded if this deal goes through.

PERCEPTION is the reason Bush should rush to dump this deal, it doesn't matter if he is right, right doesn't win you anything, try being right in a car crash when you lose your life. Will you come back to life because you were right? No, and we will not win seats in the next election if we are right on this.

We WILL lose seats in november if we keep pushing this thing, and winning in November is more important than keeping Dubai happy and being right(politics trumps all, if you don't believe that, you haven't lived very long). Bush needs to back down before it is to late.

40 posted on 03/02/2006 8:04:52 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind and, BTW, Stå sammen med danskerne !)
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To: Howlin

The 40 something white guy that makes your dogs howl ;-)


41 posted on 03/02/2006 8:05:11 PM PST by PogySailor (CPL PogySailor coming home from Iraq in April!)
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To: STARWISE
What does this say about their transparent goal?

It says they don't care about port security.
It says they don't care about the WOT.
It says they don't care about the Bush Presidency.
It says they wouldn't know a sea port from a burgundy port.
It says they pander to anything that helps keep them in power or fills their pockets.

42 posted on 03/02/2006 8:16:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Walk as if your footsteps shake the world.)
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To: Howlin
LOL.....well, you've asked all the Unappeasables on FR; who's who are left?

I don't usually pick on spelling, punctuation or grammar but...isn't that what you meant? ;^P

43 posted on 03/02/2006 8:22:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Walk as if your footsteps shake the world.)
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To: Dominic Harr

yeah, great attitude. pure pre 9-11 thinking:

"well, these arab pilot trainees can't be a problem. show me one incident anywhere else in the past where arab trainee pilots were used as terrorists? what are they going to do, fly the planes into a building?".

that's the exact analogy you are making here.


44 posted on 03/02/2006 8:27:14 PM PST by oceanview
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To: STARWISE
Ports, Business & Politics ... The UAE/P&0 Deal
45 posted on 03/02/2006 8:29:36 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I hadn't realized this; excellent find. Thanks for the ping.


46 posted on 03/02/2006 8:31:50 PM PST by Peach
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To: Txsleuth
I am sure a terrorist can infiltrate a private company easier than a government-owned company, or at least the same.

Exactly. How could it make any difference? There are over one million Muslims living in London. (and no, I'm not saying they're all terrorists) With liberal, political correctness pervading British laws how could they possibly prevent Muslim terrorists from getting jobs with P&O? (As if that would help in any way with a terrorist plot. These companies that lease the terminals are seven levels of management removed from actual port operations in the words of the P&O Security Chief.)

47 posted on 03/02/2006 8:32:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Walk as if your footsteps shake the world.)
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To: oceanview
"well, these arab pilot trainees can't be a problem. show me one incident anywhere else in the past where arab trainee pilots were used as terrorists? what are they going to do, fly the planes into a building?".

that's the exact analogy you are making here.

Very close, yes.

Are you suggesting that our country should start refusing all arab pilot trainees? Or am I misreading your point?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't yet do that, do we?

You see, I'd suggest that instead, they look into evidence that a specific arab wannabe pilot has terrorist ties, like, oh, say, Mo Atta did.

So, assuming that evidence means something to you -- do you have any credible evidence that this company, this group of company executives, these folks who will control this deal -- that they are connected to any known terrorists?

48 posted on 03/02/2006 8:34:04 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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Howlin, haven't you heard? This was never about port security. It was about the UAE's opposition to Israel.

No. Wait a minute. That Israeli shipping official who fully and adamantly endorsed DPW today kind of puts a crimp into the Israeli angle. OK. It was about giving up the sovereignty of our ports to a foreign country.

What's that? Its not ports, its just terminals...dammit. OK, it's about human rights abuses in the UAE. Yeah, that's it. Did you read the report by Amnesty International? Wow. Why would we ever do business with such a country?

Oh, you mean the US is written up by Amnesty International as being worst in the world when it comes to human rights abuses? Worse than the UAE? Well who cares what they say in their stupid report.

I'll tell you what. I'll get back with you in a bit to tell you what the real objection has always been to this port deal. But I assure you, it is VERY SERIOUS. And I can't believe Bush let this slide through.

49 posted on 03/02/2006 8:34:10 PM PST by Rokke
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To: Dominic Harr
They're A-rabs.

That's all the evidence a lot of folks need.

But don't call these folks Islamophobic.

It hurts their feelings.

50 posted on 03/02/2006 8:37:20 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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