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Study links autism, vaccine
metrowestdailynews.com ^ | March 2, 2006 | Jon Brodkin

Posted on 03/03/2006 1:54:55 AM PST by neverdem

Autism diagnoses have dropped nationwide since mercury was removed from most childhood vaccines, according to a new study that some say lends credence to charges that vaccinations were responsible for a huge increase in autism cases.

About 4,700 families -- including ones from Framingham and Waltham -- have pending claims in a federal vaccine court alleging that mercury in vaccines caused their children to develop autism.

The allegations are controversial and viewed with skepticism by many government officials and medical professionals. But supporters of a vaccine-autism link say a new report in the peer reviewed Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons proves that the removal of mercury from vaccines has led to a decrease in autism cases.

"This study is exactly the kind of thing people have been waiting for for three years now," said Richard Deth, a neuropharmacologist at Northeastern University who has testified in front of Congress on this issue. "It was recognized that this type of data would be (necessary) to see whether this theory had validity or not."

The study by two researchers was criticized by a government vaccination official who said it drew conclusions from unreliable data.

"I don’t think this study can really be taken to provide any evidence one way or another," said Dr. Robert Davis, director of the immunization safety group at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But the study was warmly received by Jared Hansen, a Framingham resident with two autistic children who filed a claim in the federal vaccine court.

"It’s certainly the data we’ve been expecting and waiting for. I’m glad to see it’s been published," Hansen said. "I believe it will swing some people who are sitting on the fence."

Hansen’s claim is pending in front of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, a no-fault system that pays financial settlements from a trust fund consisting of vaccine surcharges. The program is considering claims in one omnibus proceeding from Hansen and 4,700 other parents, including Mike Chmura of Waltham.

Between 1988 and 1992, the federal government more than doubled the amount of mercury injected into babies by recommending additional vaccines that contain thimerosal, a preservative containing mercury.

Since then, estimated autism prevalence soared from one out of 2,500 births to one in every 166. Federal officials say the increase is at least partly explained by changes in diagnostic guidelines, but some researchers believe mercury in vaccines is to blame.

Thimerosal is still used in flu shots, but was eliminated from most other childhood vaccines by 2003.

A father-son research team determined that new diagnoses of autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders have dropped since then after analyzing data from the national Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, the U.S. Department of Education and the California Department of Developmental Services.

Additional doses of mercury-containing vaccines were associated with a 2- to 8-fold increase in risk for neurodevelopmental disorders, they wrote in the latest issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.

"Significant decreasing trends in newly diagnosed (disorders) were observed ... from mid-2002 through 2005," wrote Dr. Mark Geier and son, David. Mark Geier is president of the Genetic Centers of America and his son is a graduate student in biochemistry at George Washington University.

Their study was criticized by officials who said the data bases the Geiers analyzed are not reliable. The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System can contain reports filed by anyone, including doctors, patients and lawyers, Davis said.

The Department of Education numbers are skewed, another official said, because the DOE did not make autism a separate diagnosis until the 1990s. That led to an artificial increase because children who previously had different diagnoses were then considered autistic, said Dr. Marie McCormick, a Harvard professor who chaired an Institute of Medicine committee that dismissed any link between vaccines and autism.

(Jon Brodkin can be reached at 508-626-4424 or jbrodkin@cnc.com.)


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A two-phased population epidemiological study of the safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines: a follow-up analysis.

That's their latest article that I could find on PubMed. Enter Geier DA, Geier MR into PubMed for an author search. It seems that area of interest is only adverse vaccine reactions. I would be more comfortable if other folks could replicate their results.

1 posted on 03/03/2006 1:54:56 AM PST by neverdem
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To: Incorrigible

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2 posted on 03/03/2006 1:55:45 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

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3 posted on 03/03/2006 2:14:18 AM PST by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: neverdem
I would be more comfortable if other folks could replicate their results.

I will bet anything that he is working closely with a trial lawyer, who will later pay him very well as an expert witness as they dismantle what is left of the American vacine industry.

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5 posted on 03/03/2006 2:20:48 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Vaccine industry is a straight up hustle. One of the best ever. Right up there with the goverment lotteries, taxes, rent-to-own and payday scams.

http://www.garynull.com

just enter vaccines and anyone can read the vast amount of research into the many frauds this industry has committed over the years. What a joke.


6 posted on 03/03/2006 2:47:42 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: cyborg

Thank you for the link Cyborg.


7 posted on 03/03/2006 2:57:55 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: dinasour

It has nothing to do with trial lawyers. Too many children are affected by this. My brother has triplets, 2 girls and a boy. My niece has autism. When you see them together it breaks your heart. She babbles words but has never said momma or dada, she does not interact, shes just off in her own world. I hope they find out what causes this because its heart wrenching.


8 posted on 03/03/2006 3:31:39 AM PST by panthermom
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To: neverdem

Agenda driven research - should be viewed with extreme skepticism.


9 posted on 03/03/2006 3:36:00 AM PST by sono (Bill Clinton is looking for 25 interns to work at his library. Now what could go wrong here?)
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To: panthermom

One of petronski's friends has a child with autism. Overdosed vaccines, pesticides AND a diet of coke and junk food during pregnancy deprived him of a healthy start. My best friend's nephew's parents did not want to their child vaccines and guess what he has today at four years old? Parents really have to be proactive and have a backbone when coming to doctors who think they know better for your child than you do.


10 posted on 03/03/2006 3:38:52 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: agere_contra

You're welcome. Right now I'm doing some very in depth research of my own because I will have to deal with this issue sooner or later.


11 posted on 03/03/2006 3:39:37 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: neverdem; cyborg

Thanks for the ping. Thanks for the link.


12 posted on 03/03/2006 4:04:45 AM PST by PGalt
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To: RhoTheta; Orgiveme

Ping.


13 posted on 03/03/2006 4:09:44 AM PST by Egon (We are number one! All others are number two... or lower.)
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To: cyborg

Autism has exploded. I know so many people with children who are autistic, its scary. Just about everyone of them says the same thing. Their children were fine until about 12 to 18 months. I remember visiting my nieces and nephew when they were 7 months old. My one niece was giggling and seemed perfectly fine. Then it was like she went into her own world. Other family members kept making excuses as to why she didn't talk or interact but my dad knew there was something wrong. They had her evalutated and sure enough she has autism. They have special teachers that come to the house 5 days a week and work with her. Hopefully since they caught it early it won't be as severe.


14 posted on 03/03/2006 4:11:41 AM PST by panthermom
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To: cyborg
Cyborg, make sure you find a pediatrician who is willing to delay your children's vaccines or you could find yourself in a very messy situation. Start asking around now so that when the time comes, you'll have several to choose from.
15 posted on 03/03/2006 4:13:22 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: neverdem

It took the “scientific community” almost a decade to accept the fact that >90% of gastric ulcers are caused by the bacterium H. pylori.

Sadly, it’s taking much longer for this same “scientific community” to accept the fact that high levels of mercury in childhood vaccines may correlate with the explosion of childhood autism in the 1990’s. Fortunately, “common sense” prevailed (before conclusive scientific data was widely accepted) with the removal of thimerosal from most vaccines.


16 posted on 03/03/2006 4:46:50 AM PST by PCRit
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To: cyborg
There are public health officials that want to mandate vaccines for all. In many states, a child will not be let into school unless they have had a few vaccines. With the explosive influx of third world immigration, there are to many chances of an out break to depend solely on "herd immunity".

However, at least the medical community is realizing that using a mercury based preservative is not a good thing (don't know why it took them that long).
17 posted on 03/03/2006 5:11:12 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: neverdem
It is nearly impossible to get a true diganosis of autism now that the category has been broadened.

The boy who has been on TV for having scored all the three pointers in a basketball game certainly doesn't fit the description of the autistic boy we know.

Truly autistic children do not interact with others, they don't make eye contact, and they don't attend school, basketball games, nor play in them.

With the addition of the learning disabled, the retarded, and other disabilities added to the category of autistic there's no way to know the truth.

Personally, I do blame the vaccines which are now given before the baby leaves the hospital, overwhelming their immune system.

18 posted on 03/03/2006 5:18:11 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: OldFriend

I thought there was a previous study that found no link. I would truly like to know the unbiased truth. It's beginning to take on the qualities of global warming. Seriously, with all of the medical advances, shouldn't it be easy to get a better handle on this.


19 posted on 03/03/2006 5:34:16 AM PST by momincombatboots (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: momincombatboots
Themerosol is supposedly no longer in the vaccine. However, I read now that it is back in the vaccine.

Giving a newborn at least ten innoculations before leaving the hospital is insane, IMO.

Our friend's little boy was a bright toddler. Counting, singing nursery rhymes and doing all the same things you would expect.

Slowly he withdrew into a silent world of NO interaction, violent outbursts, terrible repetitive behaviours that were barely manageable.

In those days, the innoculations were more spread out. Starting at one month and continuing up until about 2 yrs. of age.

No one has really been able to make a definitive scientific connection between autism and the vaccine.

20 posted on 03/03/2006 5:42:51 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: PCRit; cyborg
I have read that Themerosol is in the flu vaccine.

How we go about protecting ourselves and our infants is not easy.

If you read the disclosure information on the innoculations you would never give your child any vaccine.

That child would not be allowed in school without the vaccines.

Further, there was a case in NJ...a freeper was involved......who did not want to give his child the hepatitus vaccine. The state not only told the family that the child would not be allowed in school, but threatend to remove the child from the custody of the parents.

21 posted on 03/03/2006 5:46:39 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: OldFriend

Outrageous.


22 posted on 03/03/2006 5:57:22 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: OldFriend
The state not only told the family that the child would not be allowed in school, but threatened to remove the child from the custody of the parents.

There are more and more cases of that every day. Don't dope up your kids, and da state will come and take them away. Yet, the CDC refuses to treat AIDS like a disease, and the cases keep climbing.

23 posted on 03/03/2006 6:01:18 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: OldFriend
What I am seeing at the middle school level are diagnoses of autism for kids that are 12-14 because they do not "reflect the actions of normal peers." As an example, 3 years ago, we had a girl that screamed at the top of her voice, ran down the hall crying, curled up in a ball at any perceived slight by another student or an adult, refusal to work, throwing desks, biting, pulling hair, and hurting herself by scratching long furrows into her skin. Instead of diagnosing her as Emotionally disturbed, she was diagnosed as autistic because she had "communication problems."

That type of behavior is not autism and is not what parents see when their kids go from interactive to withdrawn around 18 months to 24 months. But it is easier to tell a parent autistic rather than emotionally disturbed. This type of labeling is fueling the explosion of autistic numbers.

24 posted on 03/03/2006 6:10:01 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: OldFriend

We fought to not have our babies immunized in the hospital. They didn't get anything until they were a month old. It doesn't seem like much, but it does make a difference. We also refused Prevnar. Of course, we had to sign some paperwork saying it was offered and we declined. Fortunately, our pediatrician doesn't force.

I saw the basketball boy, and I do not believe that he has autism in the true diagnosis, and my understanding of it.

Does anyone know which vaccines had the mercury preservative removed and when? I would like to see the timetable on that...


25 posted on 03/03/2006 6:13:16 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (We aren't here for a long time, so you better make it a good time.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
Here's a start.
26 posted on 03/03/2006 6:22:57 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: momincombatboots
Denmark has not had thimersol in their vaccines for over 13 years and their "autism" rates have not dropped at all! Pretty persuasive evidence that thimersol causes no problems. The whole thimersol/mercury controversy is mostly manufactured hysteria by distraught parents looking for an answer other than " it's the luck of the draw" and alt medicine types
27 posted on 03/03/2006 6:23:43 AM PST by hurly (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds!)
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To: OldFriend

Thimerosal preservative-free influenza vaccines are available, in limited quantities. Ask your pediatrician to provide these. For the 2005-06 flu season, Sanofi pasteur will produce 6-8 million doses of thimerosal-free vaccine, Chiron may also make a limited amount of preservative-free vaccine late in the influenza season. The nasal-spray (FluMist) influenza vaccine does not contain any thimerosal and can be given to healthy people 5 to 49 years of age who are not pregnant.

Keep this in mind for the next flu season.


28 posted on 03/03/2006 6:24:50 AM PST by PCRit
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To: cyborg
My best friend's nephew's parents did not want to their child vaccines and guess what he has today at four years old?

Diptheria?

29 posted on 03/03/2006 6:25:00 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: neverdem
The study by two researchers was criticized by a government vaccination official who said it drew conclusions from unreliable data.

Usually it's the government that is doing that. Or enviro groups.

30 posted on 03/03/2006 6:25:51 AM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: neverdem

bttt


31 posted on 03/03/2006 6:32:11 AM PST by lunarbicep (Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain)
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To: PCRit

Just because there is a flu vaccine, is it really necessary for people who are otherwise healthy? What is wrong with getting the flu?


32 posted on 03/03/2006 6:57:46 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (We aren't here for a long time, so you better make it a good time.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

It could kill you, or you could give it to someone and it would kill them. Do you really want the nurses at the ICU or grandma's nursing home skipping her flu shot because she's "otherwise healthy?"


33 posted on 03/03/2006 7:04:37 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Caesar Soze
Just an interesting note......I was regularly donating blood at a nearby hospital.

Last year when I went in the nurse asked if I had the flu shot because if I had they would not accept my blood.

I have never had a flu shot.

Had the flu once and it was really awful. My kids never had the flu shot and each had one bout of flu.

When my son went into the Army he got every shot known to man.

Daughter has not had flu shots or any hepatitus shots either.

34 posted on 03/03/2006 7:07:29 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Your comments are exactly what has been happening with the diagnosis. However, what I don't quite understand is how, with the expanded definition of autism, the numbers are supposedly going down!

I guess it's true....figures don't lie but liars figure.

There are exceptions to vaccinating your child. I believe the Quakers are exempt and egg allergies, and migraines.

I used the migraine excuse to get my daughter out of the hepatitus vaccine when she was in college.

At that time they were only forcing freshmen to have the innoculation and my daughter was a junior.

The bad part of the hep vaccines is that they are dangerous if you already have hepatitus....a disease that can be undiagnosed and have no symptons. There is a pre test but it is not used unless the parent insists.

Most people are uninformed about the vaccines, their side affects, and their rights of the parents.

35 posted on 03/03/2006 7:14:24 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: redgolum
A good friend was refusing to allow her son to be classified as learning disabled here in NJ

The child study team threatened to remove her child from her custody.

I don't know about other states but New Jersey is not a place anyone should choose to live.

36 posted on 03/03/2006 7:17:36 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Personal choice, I guess. Even healthy individuals can be “laid up” for 7-10days with a severe case of the flu. Most deaths actually occur from subsequent pneumonia infection, due to your body’s weakened immune state during a flu infection. Vaccination is important if you don’t want to risk missing time from work, infecting others in your family-should you catch the flu, if you already have respiratory problems (asthma, chronic bronchitis, re-occurring pneumonia infections, etc) and especially if you are over the age of 60.


37 posted on 03/03/2006 7:17:58 AM PST by PCRit
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To: cyborg
My younger daughter at age 15 had whopping cough last year. It was horrible to watch. She reacted to the DPT vaccine at 2 months and so never got another DPT--gave her DT instead. The doctor said the incomplete vaccination gave her some protection but not enough. I don't want to imagine what a full blown case would have looked like. She coughed so long and so hard she couldn't get a breath-her lips and finger tips were dusky blue. She could barely speak and just looked at me with those eyes that even at 15 said "please, please mom make this go away." As I said, if that was a light case, a full blown would have devastated her.
38 posted on 03/03/2006 7:26:43 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: WV Mountain Mama

OCD is a more accurate diagnosis


39 posted on 03/03/2006 7:30:26 AM PST by STD (Rough Sailing Directly Ahead)
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To: sono

"Agenda driven research"

Everyone has a dog in this fight -- including the vaccine drug companies.


40 posted on 03/03/2006 7:42:37 AM PST by webstersII
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To: cyborg


Cyborg


The vaccine industry is NOT a money maker for pharm companies. It is supported by their profits from other departments. The folks who work in research in these areas make the least of their peers.

It is barely surviving in the US. The answer to AIDS lies in biologics, as does the answer to cancer.

If your looking for the big scam, look to government.


41 posted on 03/03/2006 7:48:53 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: hurly

"Denmark has not had thimersol in their vaccines for over 13 years and their "autism" rates have not dropped at all! Pretty persuasive evidence that thimersol causes no problems."

Year 2003 stats:
Denmark has a rate of autism of 11 per million population vaccinated.

The US has a rate of autism of over 2000 per million population vaccinated.

Ever thought that maybe the reason the rate is so low in Denmark is simply because they haven't been using thimerosol?

Autism is way more prevalent in the US than in other 1st-world nations, and it is many times more prevalent than it used to be in the US. There is a reason for this, whether it's thimerosol or something else.


42 posted on 03/03/2006 7:55:28 AM PST by webstersII
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To: HonestConservative

"The answer to AIDS lies in biologics"

What is "biologics"?


43 posted on 03/03/2006 7:59:49 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII
If you read the other posts it seems fairly obvious that most of the increase is in the loosening of the diagnostic criteria! Also the current rate of autism in Denmark is irrelevant! The key is it did not decrease after thimersol was no longer in the vaccines!
44 posted on 03/03/2006 8:04:48 AM PST by hurly (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds!)
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To: cyborg

>"Vaccine industry is a straight up hustle."<

-Right you are. Especially the flu vaccine, and the maunfacturers are protected from being sued for any damages, as I understand it.

The latest hype is a bird flu vaccine, which would likely be ineffective at best.


45 posted on 03/03/2006 8:05:57 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: webstersII

Sorry, for the criptic language.

In the pharm R & D areas, there is chemistry and there is biologics.

Biologics is a very different kettle of fish, excuse the pun.

Biologics involves using living of formerly living products to develop a result. It is not like making a cake; if you use x amount of baking soda or salt in a recipe in the same amount each time you get a measured result. Using living or formerly living products in development injects the idiocyncracies of each individual "creature" itself into the process of development and manufacture.

This is why you hear about Pharm companies having to toss entire batches of vaccine. It is painfully hard to develop and just as difficult to manufacture.


By the way, researchers have kids, too and believe me, those kids are vaccinated.

Soon things will be made easier by the use of gene replication techniques in development and manufacture.

Antibiotics were developed out of the field of biologics.

Folks forget that more men died in WWI from the flu than did from war injuries. Over a million (a very high percentage of our population at the time) died of it around 1918 or so.

There was no flu vaccine.


46 posted on 03/03/2006 8:19:04 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: cyborg; neverdem; dinasour; agere_contra; panthermom; sono; PGalt; old and tired; PCRit; ...
You can get a religious exemption from most vaccines. Why? Because many vaccines contain aborted fetal cells (human diploid cells.) That's a fact. How many folks know that?

Here's a list of ingredients:


In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers:
Vaccine Fillers and Ingredients

aluminum hydroxide
aluminum phosphate
ammonium sulfate
amphotericin B
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum
betapropiolactone
fetal bovine serum
formaldehyde
formalin
gelatin
glycerol
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin
monosodium glutamate (MSG)
neomycin
neomycin sulfate
phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
potassium diphosphate
potassium monophosphate
polymyxin B
polysorbate 20
polysorbate 80
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
residual MRC5 proteins
sorbitol
sucrose
thimerosal (mercury)
tri(n)butylphosphate,
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells

47 posted on 03/03/2006 8:23:56 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: FBD

Why do we need all this?


48 posted on 03/03/2006 8:37:48 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: hurly

"it seems fairly obvious that most of the increase is in the loosening of the diagnostic criteria"

Prove it.

"The key is it did not decrease after thimersol was no longer in the vaccines!"

Prove it.


-- In God we trust. All others bring data.


49 posted on 03/03/2006 8:39:41 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; cyborg; neverdem


I think many vaccines are far riskier then most believe.

Here's a good vaccine info site:
http://www.909shot.com/
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC)
http://www.909shot.com/


50 posted on 03/03/2006 8:51:47 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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