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Study links autism, vaccine
metrowestdailynews.com ^ | March 2, 2006 | Jon Brodkin

Posted on 03/03/2006 1:54:55 AM PST by neverdem

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To: Politicalmom

I'm sure you would have. What a horrible thing to happen to your nephew. My daughter must have had a milder version of what he had--she spiked a fever right away, and the doctor knew she had reacted and luckily they were able to get the fever down. My sympathies to your family


101 posted on 03/05/2006 1:08:30 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: FBD; webstersII; cyborg; TomB; longshadow
Some of the studies have shown that it may be even more dangerous to remove them than just to leave them

Better yet, shall we say not dangerous at all? Junk science reigns supreme.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html

102 posted on 03/05/2006 5:00:05 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Rennes Templar; FBD; webstersII; cyborg; TomB; longshadow
I did not allow my fourteen yr. old daughter to have any vaccines. She is very healthy. Of course we kept her immune system strong through good diet and activity.

Until she gets one of those diseases such as polio which will leave her possibly crippled for life.

Me? I keep my vaccines up to date. And I mean all of them. Yellow feaver, DPT, typhoid, etc.

From here:

http://www.drgreene.com/21_570.html

"Diphtheria is a very serious bacterial disease that can make a person unable to breathe, cause paralysis, or even heart failure. About 10% of the people who get diphtheria die from it. Before the DPT shot was introduced, 17,000 children died in a single year in the United States alone in a diphtheria epidemic. Over the last several years, only a very few cases of diphtheria have been reported in the United States. In 1988 there were zero cases. This is primarily because most children have had shots to protect them. Diphtheria isn't gone, but most children are ready for it if they are exposed."

"For babies and those at high risk, pertussis can be severe or even life threatening. It causes repeated spells of coughing that can make it difficult to eat, drink, or breathe. About 1 out of every 200 children who get pertussis will die of it. Another 1 out of every 200 will have lifetime brain damage. As many as 2% will have seizures, 16% will get pneumonia, and 50% (even in this modern era of reduced hospitalization) will be sick enough to be hospitalized."

"Putting these risks into perspective, even if you assume the worst-case scenario (1 in 140,000), compared to all other preventive and natural health measures, DPT is very safe. DPT is safer than exercise. A healthy person is more likely to be injured, disabled, or killed by complications associated with exercise than by those that may be associated with the DPT (again, assuming the worst-case risk numbers for DPT). A presumably healthy adult who jogs two hours a week for a year is 15 times more likely to die from jogging than a child would be from getting a DPT shot."

103 posted on 03/05/2006 5:13:04 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

"Until she gets one of those diseases such as polio which will leave her possibly crippled for life.'

Unfortuntately, most people who are orthodoxly educated re medical information on such issues have no idea of the ability of the immune system to resist and/or recover from such conditions. Thus measures to avoid such diseases are not utilized. These include fasting, right foods, colon hydrtoherapy, homeopathics, herbs, traditional chinese medicine, etc.
We just function in different health paardigms. I am very secure in mine.


104 posted on 03/05/2006 7:03:24 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: neverdem
Thimerosal is still used in flu shots, Remind me again why I don't take flu shots.... Good thing they recommend flu shots for the very young... .FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=Image hosting by TinyPic"
105 posted on 03/05/2006 7:20:25 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: G Larry

Thimerosal is still used in flu shots, Remind me again why I don't take flu shots.... Good thing they recommend flu shots for the very young...

"TYPE=PICT;ALT=Image hosting by TinyPic"

Hope it works this time..


106 posted on 03/05/2006 7:22:23 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Rennes Templar; RadioAstronomer; TomB
Thus measures to avoid such diseases are not utilized. These include fasting, right foods, colon hydrtoherapy, homeopathics, herbs, traditional chinese medicine, etc.

You forgot other, equally effective prophylactics such as cow-turd poltices, spunk-water cocktails, and throwing a dead cat over your shoulder at midnight.

107 posted on 03/05/2006 7:48:44 AM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: RadioAstronomer
>"Me? I keep my vaccines up to date. And I mean all of them. Yellow feaver, DPT, typhoid, etc."<


Have you had all of the following vaccines? They are all very dangerous diseases. You could get very sick, or even die from any one of them.
Meningococcal Vaccine?
Lyme Disease?
Anthrax?
small pox?
Pneumococcal?
etc, etc, etc.?
So, hey, load yourself up with vaccines, RadioAstronomer. That's your personal choice. Get em all, and you'll be *impervious* to all disease! It matters not to me, as it's your personal choice. Just don't force your *choice* upon me, and my children.

That's what's known in a free society as INFORMED CONSENT.

Me, I'll choose to not get vaccinated...as long as busybodies leave me that right. A properly taken care of immune system can ward off almost all disease, with proper nutrition, good personal hygiene, healthy diet and excercise, all without vaccines.

A healthy lifestyle can avoid the rest.
Wherever there are pandemics they occur with people with either: poor hygiene practices, in close proximity to animals, unhealthy lifestyles, etc.

It's not from a lack of vaccines.

-BTW, I haven't even had so much as a cold in well over a year, so I'll wager I'm just as healthy as you, without all the toxins to compromise my very healthy immune system.

.

108 posted on 03/05/2006 9:52:33 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: SoftballMominVA

My son had a reaction as well, and that was the last vaccination for my kids. I would rather fight some possible disease than inject them with something that ruins their entire lives.


109 posted on 03/05/2006 10:00:30 AM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: longshadow

Sad, isn't it.


110 posted on 03/05/2006 10:35:49 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Sad, isn't it.

Yes; but it is Nature's way of "taxing" ignorance.

111 posted on 03/05/2006 10:41:23 AM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: RadioAstronomer
>"Better yet, shall we say not dangerous at all? Junk science reigns supreme."<

Perhaps. It may well be that it is not an area of concern. Again this is a matter of informed consent.

It depends how toxic elemental mercury is perceived to be. You apparently perceive it to be not very toxic. I perceive otherwise.

The amount of elemental mercury in amalgam fillings is about 50% of the material.

The EPA recognizes that low levels of elemental mercury are in fact released from amalgam fillings:
http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/mercury.html#ref3

"Another source of exposure to low levels of elemental mercury in the general population is elemental mercury released in the mouth from dental amalgam fillings." (3,4,5)

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/phs46.html

"Once the amalgam is hard, the mercury is bound within the amalgam, but very small amounts are slowly released from the surface of the filling due to corrosion or chewing or grinding motions. Part of the mercury at the surface of the filling may enter the air as mercury vapor or be dissolved in the saliva.

The total amount of mercury released from dental amalgam depends upon the total number of fillings and surface areas of each filling, the chewing and eating habits of the person, and other chemical conditions in the mouth.

Estimates of the amount of mercury released from dental amalgams range from 3 to 17 micrograms per day (µg/day). The mercury from dental amalgam may contribute from 0 to more than 75% of your total daily mercury exposure, depending on the number of amalgam fillings you have, the amount of fish consumed, the levels of mercury (mostly as methylmercury) in those fish, and exposure from other less common sources..."
112 posted on 03/05/2006 10:42:01 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: longshadow

And people say natural selection doesn't work.


113 posted on 03/05/2006 10:43:20 AM PST by js1138 (</I>)
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow; Rennes Templar

>"Sad, isn't it."<

Yes it's sad that some folks will choose to ignore the following information, as vaccines are a sacred cow to them.




Response to:
“Addressing Parents’ Concerns’ Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System"
by Dr. Paul Offit, et. al.

Pediatrics, Vol. 109 No. 1, Jan. 2002
by Sherri Tenpenny, DO


"...Vaccine-specific antibody protection is considered to be the cornerstone of vaccination success. In all studies published on vaccines, “efficacy” is considered to be the development antibodies. When vaccines are given together, the combination is considered “effective” if both antigens generate an antibody response at least equal to the response seen if a single antigen vaccine is given alone.

However, is this an antibody response a valid presumption of disease protection? Even experts in the field admit that they don’t know. During a discussion regarding the approval of yet another acellular pertussis vaccine, a panel member said, “…A basic question is: Is antibody correlated with protection? In the year 2000, we don’t really know which antibodies protect, let alone exactly what level of an antibody protects.” Another panelist went on to say, “The protective mechanisms [of the immune system] are not understood. Is it antibody or is it cell mediated or some assessment of memory that can occur in response to infection?”

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) discloses this regarding the pertussis vaccine, “The findings of efficacy studies have not demonstrated a direct correlation between antibody response and protection against pertussis disease.”

Antibody studies are only useful to compare immune responses elicited between similar vaccines. Efficacy studies to measure clinical protection conferred by each pertussis vaccine have not been done. Therefore, antibodies apparently mean nothing.

The H. flu vaccine has been found to have high avidity in vitro. This means that there is a high affinity of attachment between the antigen and the antibody. However, “the contribution [of this] to clinical protection is unknown.”

Again, “efficacy” as defined by the development of antibodies apparently means nothing in relation to disease protection. Therefore, using the antigen binding capacity of the immune system and its ability to create an antibody response as a measure of safety, also means nothing.

The concept that 10,000 antigens could theoretically be deposited uneventfully into the blood stream of either an infant or an adult defies logic and is a blatant disregard for mechanisms of human physiology.

By injecting a vaccine into the body, the first four lines of normal immune defense are by-passed: the skin, the mucous membranes, the gut lymphoid tissue and lymphatic neutralization. This abnormal introduction of pathogens and adjuvants into the blood stream does not “trick” the immune system: it contaminates it.

And contaminate it we do. Children now receive 52 vaccines, in the form of 15 shots, buy the time they are 6 months of age if they receive all the recommend shots, including the Prevnar® (the pediatric pneumonia shot.) That is because each viral or bacterial particle contained in the vaccine elicits an immune response. So, the measles, mumps and rubella vaccines are three separate vaccines.

The injectable polio vaccine (IPV) contains three strains of polio, thus it is three vaccines. And this overwhelming amount of biological material does not include the adjuvants, which can included MSG, aluminum, formaldehyde, sucrose and phenoxyethanol, which is antifreeze, among many others.

The potential for disaster looms as multiple live and attenuated viruses are combined during multiple vaccinations on the same day. In a study reported in Science Magazine, two avirulent herpes viruses were simultaneously injected in the footpads of mice. Many (62%) of the mice that had received equal doses of each virus died while none died that had received up to 100 times the diluted dose of just one virus. Eleven recominant viruses were isolated from the dead mice. Three of these isolates were lethal when injected into the next set of mice. This study demonstrates that in vivo, two avirulent viruses can recombine with deadly results. If two vaccine antigens can cause a serious outcome when given simultaneously, then what about “only 123-126”? Or 10,000?.

Once again, a “ground breaking” medical study has drawn media attention by posting conclusions that are not supported by facts. Stating that an infant has a large capacity to respond to antigens, i.e. create an antibody response, does nothing to allay reasonable fears and doubts by investigative parents. Any “thinking doctor” should recognize this “study” for what it is: another opportunity to spread the mantra of “safe and effective” vaccines. Perhaps in this way we won’t question the more than 200 vaccines that are currently in development or resist the more than 20 that are anticipated to become part of the childhood vaccination schedule by 2010..."

-Dr Sherri Tenpenny



Scientific American, December 1995; Volume 273; No. 6, Page 76
Hanson, -L-A. Ann.All.Asth Imm.1998 Dec; 81(6):523-33
Pichichero, M.E, et. al. J.Infect.Dis. 1980 Nov; 142(5); 694-8.
Hokama,-T, et. al. Pediatr-Int. 1999 Jun; 41(3): 277-80
Hanson, LA. Acta-Paediatr-Jpn. 1994 Oct; 36(5): 557-61
Transcript of Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting, Friday, November 3, 2000, p. 107, 120.
MMWR March 28, 1997/Vol. 46/No. RR-7, pg. 4
2002 Physician’s Desk Reference, HibTITER, p. 1860.
Javier RT, Searati, F., Stevens, JB. Science 1986 Nov. 7;234(4777):746-8.


114 posted on 03/05/2006 11:22:56 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: OldFriend

>>Truly autistic children do not interact with others,
>>they don't make eye contact, and they don't attend
>>school, basketball games, nor play in them.

Allow me to say you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>With the addition of the learning disabled, the
>>retarded, and other disabilities added to the category
>>of autistic there's no way to know the truth.

My son is intelligent, physically perfect (normal) was diagnosed as autistic when he was three. He started as a nonverbal, non-interacting Autistic. We hired a speech therapist who specializes in Autism. She worked with him for six months before he started school. He has come a long way since he was diagnosed. We have had him in a special school for four years (which cost over a thousand dollars a month 12 months a year). I took extra jobs, got up a 6 AM. For four years to drive him up to the school, my wife stayed home, volunteered at the school so she could learn the techniques and we could apply them at home.

My son now talks up a storm about videos that are coming out, or his game boy. He still has issues, but it takes most people about a half an hour to figure out what is wrong. He will be able to play sports, and he will continue to improve. To say there is not help and no hope is a cruel, and ignorant statement.

Prod dad of an autistic son.


115 posted on 03/05/2006 12:06:40 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
Where did I say there is no hope?

There are known cases where autistic children have had tremendous progress.

Nice to know you had so much success with your personal situation.

116 posted on 03/05/2006 12:39:22 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: Born Conservative

The study is not worth the paper it's printed on.

Garbage in, garbage out.


117 posted on 03/05/2006 1:11:46 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: OldFriend

>>Where did I say there is no hope?

Well, it sounded that way to me. (I may be a tad sensitive on the subject ;-)

My son's first Diagnosis was accompanied with the advice that we institutionalize him, and concentrate on our other kids. We dropped that doctor like a hot rock.


118 posted on 03/05/2006 4:13:43 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: longshadow

(FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)

Not bad comments for a nine year old.


119 posted on 03/05/2006 7:35:17 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: RadioAstronomer

quackwatch? LOL! PLEASE! They're the LAST crowd I'd ever go to for ANYTHING relating to my body.


120 posted on 03/06/2006 3:34:20 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: FBD

Autism Rates Decline as Mercury Removed from Childhood Vaccines

Journal of American Physicians & Surgeons ^ | March 2, 2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1589486/posts


121 posted on 03/07/2006 6:28:37 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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