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Lord Have Mercy [US WCC Delegates Apologize for US]
Weekly Standard ^ | 3/1/2006 | Mark D. Tooley

Posted on 03/03/2006 4:15:06 AM PST by Unam Sanctam

AMERICAN CHURCH OFFICIALS pleaded for forgiveness for the sins of the United States last week--from the Iraq War, to Bush's rejection of the Kyoto Accord, to the racism exposed by Hurricane Katrina, to economic exploitation, and for the more general American sin of idolatry.

The clerics were representing 34 Protestant and Orthodox denominations in America at the Assembly of the World Council of Churches (WCC) meeting in Porto Alegre, Brazil.

"Our leaders turned a deaf ear to the voices of church leaders throughout our nation and the world, entering into imperial projects that seek to dominate and control for the sake of our own national interests," lamented the apologetic Americans. "Nations have been demonized and God has been enlisted in national agendas that are nothing short of idolatrous."

The Geneva-based WCC, which includes 340 churches totaling 550 million members, has been governed by leftists for decades. About 25 percent of the world's Christians belong to Protestant or Orthodox communions in the WCC. Thanks largely to leadership by leftist Europeans, the WCC long ago abandoned traditional Christian notions of ecumenism and evangelism in favor of radical liberation theologies that demonized the West, capitalism, and even Christianity. (Perhaps most famously, the WCC grudgingly refused to criticize the Soviet bloc during the final decades of the Cold War, while supporting and sometimes actually funding Soviet backed insurgencies.)

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To: Unam Sanctam

How long do we have to wait for the Orthodox Church to get the heck out of this insane anti Christian organization...!?


41 posted on 03/03/2006 6:57:00 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Unam Sanctam

Meet the enemy.

http://stopncc.blogspot.com/2006/03/top-episcopal-bishop-meets-dictator.html


42 posted on 03/03/2006 7:38:28 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: oblomov
This is an example of why I never go to church any more.

Ditto

43 posted on 03/03/2006 8:02:54 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: FormerLib

"We must get the Orthodox Church out of the WCC and it's US clone, the NCC.

We must!"

The process has been started in this GOA metropolis.


44 posted on 03/03/2006 8:08:57 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: eleni121

"How long do we have to wait for the Orthodox Church to get the heck out of this insane anti Christian organization...!?"

The process for the GOA has been started. I've done a bit of work on it today. My own metropolis is "horrified" at what is being said in our name.


45 posted on 03/03/2006 8:47:35 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

The process for the GOA has been started. I've done a bit of work on it today. My own metropolis is "horrified" at what is being said in our name.




Wonderful news! Make is so!


46 posted on 03/03/2006 8:49:19 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Unam Sanctam; crazykatz; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; The_Reader_David; jb6; ...

Ping to this outrage of the WCC which is being perpetrated at least in part in our name. Please contact your metropolis' chancellors or metropolitans and start the process for presentation of motions at your metropolis clergy/laity conferences for the withdrawal of the Church from this evil organization. It is very important that we all contact our chancellors and hierarchs immediately so this matter doesn't get just passed over and forgotten. Thanks!


47 posted on 03/03/2006 8:51:05 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: eleni121

There are big supporters of the NCC/WCC cabal in your metropolis, Eleni mou. Get your people together and innudate the chancellor's office with complaints. be sure to send a link to the Weekly Standar article. An internet war over this will bring them around, I predict.


48 posted on 03/03/2006 8:53:26 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

I'll be drafting something at my earliest convenience.

I know Fr. Kishkovsky read the letter on behalf of the American delegation. What I'd like to know is to what extent the American Orthodox representatives signed off on this. Was there any dissent on their part? Was there any minority report? Have any Orthodox representatives distanced themselves from this?

On the surface, I'd say this letter is just par for the course for the likes of the NCC. The same old fertilizer it always puts out. It reminds me of the "prayer of confession" I experienced once about 20 years ago in a United Methodist service. We "confessed" a lot of things that weren't true, or a lot of things that we had nothing to do with. It was the only time in my life that I thought about walking out of church. And that's one small example of why I left the UMC in particular and mainline Protestantism in general. I got fed up with the onanistic proclamations of denominational "policy makers": pinheadeded, pseudo-intellectuals who couldn't hold an honest job under the threat of death. I expected better from Orthodoxy. And I usually get better. The Orthodox have tons of reasons to leave the NCC/WCC, and all of them bigger and more important than a letter from the American delegation saying, basicially, what a bunch of sh*ts they are: ("grateful for hospitality we don’t deserve, for companionship we haven’t earned, for an embrace we don’t merit"). Can't say I disagree with them there, as long as they are speaking only for and about themselves and not for and about me and others among their countrymen. When they depart from speaking about themselves, then they are all wet. But I am touched by the humility of these failed "prophets."


49 posted on 03/03/2006 10:14:41 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Just say "No" to Judy Baar Topinka)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Fundamental Baptists have never been ecumenical. We desire to get along with other denominations to accomplish equal social concerns, like ending abortion, but we don't discuss theological positions with other denoms, with the intent to make concessions to get agreement.

Fundamental Baptists have maintained that the WCC is demonic.


50 posted on 03/03/2006 10:24:28 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "I believe Hillary is the aunti-christ.")
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To: Unam Sanctam

"The letter to the WCC from the U.S. churches was read to the Assembly by Fr. Leonid Kishkovsky, chief ecumenical officer of the Russian Orthodox Church in America and a former president of the U.S. National Council of Churches (NCC)."

Leonid Kishkovsky is from the OCA, not ROCA.


51 posted on 03/03/2006 10:26:38 AM PST by x5452
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To: Unam Sanctam

Did they all have sex together when the conference was over?

(I apologize. That one was really bad.)


52 posted on 03/03/2006 10:28:07 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Unam Sanctam
www.sorryeverybody.com - They're still there, even got a book.
53 posted on 03/03/2006 10:32:44 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Kolokotronis

What a week. First that lame statement on finances and now this.


54 posted on 03/03/2006 6:45:39 PM PST by SalukiLawyer
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To: SalukiLawyer

I didn't believe it so I checked. Here is is from the OCA's own website. I didn't believe the letter could be so bad. It is. I put it below.

Contact us at externalaffairs@oca.org

His Grace, Bishop Seraphim
Chairperson
PO Box 179
Spencerville, ON
Canada K0E 1X0

Office: 613-925-5226
Fax: 613-925-1521


His Grace, Bishop Nikolai
Vice-Chairperson
PO Box 210569
Anchorage, AK 99521-0569

Office: 907-279-0025
Fax: 907-279-9748



V. Rev. Leonid Kishkovsky
Assistant to the Chancellor for External Affairs and Interchurch Relations

Office: 516-922-0550
Home: 516-671-6616
Fax: 516-922-0954
Email: leonid@oca.org



V. Rev. Joseph Fester
Secretary
PO Box 675
Syosset, NY 11791

Office: 516-922-0550, ext. 129
Fax: 516-922-0954
Email: jfester@oca.org


Protopresbyter Robert Kondratick
John Erickson

Members


V. Rev. Dennis Pihach
V. Rev. Arthur Liolin
V. Rev. Michael Westerberg
V. Rev. John Zdinak
Rev. Remus Grama
Rev. John Behr
Rev. Alexander Rentel
Dr. Peter Bouteneff
Dr. Nikolas Gvosdev
Dr. Constantine Kallaur
Dr. Paul Meyendorff

Consultants


Links:

Standing Conference of Canonical Orthodox Bishops in the Americas [SCOBA]
Web: www.scoba.us

World Council of Churches
Web: www.wcc-coe.org

National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA
Web: www.ncccusa.org

Yet we acknowledge as well that we are citizens of a nation that has done much in these years to endanger the human family and to abuse the creation. Following the terrorist attacks you sent “living letters” inviting us into a deeper solidarity with those who suffer daily from violence around the world. But our country responded by seeking to reclaim a privileged and secure place in the world, raining down terror on the truly vulnerable among our global neighbors. Our leaders turned a deaf ear to the voices of church leaders throughout our nation and the world, entering into imperial projects that seek to dominate and control for the sake of our own national interests. Nations have been demonized and God has been enlisted in national agendas that are nothing short of idolatrous. We lament with special anguish the war in Iraq, launched in deception and violating global norms of justice and human rights. We mourn all who have died or been injured in this war; we acknowledge with shame abuses carried out in our name; we confess that we have failed to raise a prophetic voice loud enough and persistent enough to deter our leaders from this path of preemptive war. Lord, have mercy.

The rivers, oceans, lakes, rainforests, and wetlands that sustain us, even the air we breathe continue to be violated, and global warming goes unchecked while we allow God’s creation to veer toward destruction. Yet our own country refuses to acknowledge its complicity and rejects multilateral agreements aimed at reversing disastrous trends. We consume without replenishing; we grasp finite resources as if they are private possessions; our uncontrolled appetites devour more and more of the earth’s gifts. We confess that we have failed to raise a prophetic voice loud enough and persistent enough to call our nation to global responsibility for the creation, that we ourselves are complicit in a culture of consumption that diminishes the earth. Christ, have mercy.

The vast majority of the peoples of the earth live in crushing poverty. The starvation, the HIV/AIDS pandemic, the treatable diseases that go untreated indict us, revealing the grim features of global economic injustice we have too often failed to acknowledge or confront. Our nation enjoys enormous wealth, yet we cling to our possessions rather than share. We have failed to embody the covenant of life to which our God calls us; hurricane Katrina revealed to the world those left behind in our own nation by the rupture of our social contract. As a nation we have refused to confront the racism that exists in our own communities and the racism that infects our policies around the world. We confess that we have failed to raise a prophetic voice loud enough and persistent enough to call our nation to seek just economic structures so that sharing by all will mean scarcity for none. In the face of the earth’s poverty, our wealth condemns us. Lord, have mercy.

Gee, I thought the OCA was formed TO GET AWAY FROM COMMUNISTS CONTROLLING THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH HERE. I wonder if I could slip this into the church bulletin: "OCA Condemns U.S. Before World."

We need to get out of the WCC. NOW. We need full accounting of OCA finances since 1990. NOW. I have a feeling we won't get either. There is one, pitiful, struggling OCA church in southern Illinois left, and three abandoned ruins. Granted the mines and immigrant labor have changed the economic and demographic landscape, but SOMEONE besides the Antiochians should be interested in making the jump from our treasured, aging but disappearing ethnics to real-live churches making a place for themselves in the hearts and minds of the people where Orthodoxy has been implanted.

Yes, this is an interesting beginning of Lent.

Oh, I guess we better cut out all those prayers for the armed forces and the president of our country and install an icon of St. Michael Moore.

Excuse me while my children execute the protocal for daddy foaming at the mouth.


55 posted on 03/03/2006 7:16:03 PM PST by SalukiLawyer
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To: SalukiLawyer

Nice letter, eh? Especially since its been put out in our name!

In putting together a report on this, at the request of our metropolis, I came across a fundraising letter from "Rev" Bob Edgar, president of the NCC in which he compares Bush and conservative Republicans to Nazis and another statement by him removing his name as president of the NCC from a statement of the SBC declaring marriage to be the union of one man and one woman because he feared it was homophobic and he supports loving relationships, married or not, between men and women, men and men and women and women.

I have been informed that this priest Kishkovsky is an outspoken anti-Greek and anti-Antiochian in addition to his manifest anti-Americanism. He has apparently been a longtime supporter of the Marxist Liberation "theology" espoused by the NCC.


56 posted on 03/04/2006 5:01:10 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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