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Madonna eyes Israel house to await Messiah
AFP ^ | March 3, 2006

Posted on 03/03/2006 8:40:30 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

US pop diva Madonna wants to buy a house in the Israeli town of Rosh Pina, where the ancient Jewish Kabbalah tradition expects the Messiah to appear at the end of the world.

Yediot Aharonot said the owner of a 100-year-old, ramshackle five-bedroom villa overlooking the Sea of the Galilee had been recently contacted several times by representatives of the superstar with a view to selling his property.

According to the same source, Madonna wants to renovate the building into a centre of study of mystical Jewish texts pored over by Kabbalah followers.

The self-proclaimed Material Girl, a keen aficionado of the ancient Jewish mystical tradition, last visited Israel in September 2004.

She turned to Kabbalah in 1997 through the Los Angeles-based Kabbalah Centre which proclaims to offer a path to spiritual enlightenment through an eclectic mix of Orthodox Jewish tradition, visualisation and positive thinking.

Two years ago, she took the Hebrew name Esther and reportedly observes the Jewish sabbath, although she has not converted to Judaism.

One of her recent dance tracks is called "Isaac", the name of famous Kabbalah Rabbi Isaac Louria who lived and worked in the now northern Israeli town of Safed during the 16th century.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: attentionjunkie; goofball; hollywood; judaism; kabbalah; madonna; messiah
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1 posted on 03/03/2006 8:40:32 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative
All I have to say is: Oy vay.
2 posted on 03/03/2006 8:41:41 AM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Is she already working on her Yiddisheh accent already?


3 posted on 03/03/2006 8:42:53 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

What a charming prospect:
Uberslut desecrates the Holy Land.

I cannot understand why any rabbi would associate himself with that filthy female.


4 posted on 03/03/2006 8:43:34 AM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: West Coast Conservative; Alouette; SJackson; All

OH ALouette SJackson did you hear about this???? LOL!


5 posted on 03/03/2006 8:44:02 AM PST by SevenofNine (I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy)
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To: timsbella

"Is she already working on her Yiddisheh accent already?"

LOL! That won't work for her, she from like Ohio or someplace. That only works for Dr. Laura, native of Brooklyn, NY, for her it works! Also helps that Dr. L. is actually 1/2 Jewish.



6 posted on 03/03/2006 8:46:00 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Bigg Red
Yeah, a respectable religion like Kabbalah, who'd a-thunk it... :-)
7 posted on 03/03/2006 8:47:53 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Going armed to the terror of the public.)
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To: Bigg Red

I don't get it, but apparently she thinks because her stage name is Madonna, that she is above everyone else. She has spent her entire adult life desecrating everything that is moral. Now that she is a mother, and wife, we, including God are supposed to ignore all that.


8 posted on 03/03/2006 8:48:29 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: West Coast Conservative
US pop diva Madonna wants to buy a house in the Israeli town of Rosh Pina, where the ancient Jewish Kabbalah tradition expects the Messiah to appear

Been there, done that and even got named after his mother.

9 posted on 03/03/2006 8:49:12 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Next Olympics I want wide track bobsledding. Four sleds on the track at once - like Ben Hur on ice.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Interesting, so the line begins behind Mad-donna.
10 posted on 03/03/2006 8:49:18 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: West Coast Conservative

She clawed her way right into her unhappy life.


11 posted on 03/03/2006 8:50:24 AM PST by bmwcyle (We got permits, yes we DO! We got permits, how 'bout YOU?;))
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To: jocon307
LOL! That won't work for her, she from like Ohio or someplace.

Them's fightin' words! She's from what Woody Hayes called "that state up north".

12 posted on 03/03/2006 8:51:23 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Next Olympics I want wide track bobsledding. Four sleds on the track at once - like Ben Hur on ice.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I guess she is one of those who likes to hear her bad news first.


13 posted on 03/03/2006 8:51:54 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: West Coast Conservative

I wonder if she'll do a music video while grinding her hips against the Wailing Wall?


14 posted on 03/03/2006 8:53:07 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I don't think the Messiah will appreciate being greeted by a whore.


15 posted on 03/03/2006 8:53:08 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Fr. Benedict Groeschel has prayed for her conversion for years. I'm hoping that she returns to the Church some day.


16 posted on 03/03/2006 8:54:21 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: KarlInOhio

Oops, sorry Michigan! I googled her.


17 posted on 03/03/2006 8:55:44 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: television is just wrong
I pray to God that this does not happen. Please, Israel, do not allow this woman to come anywhere near the Holy Land.

For decades she mocked anything that was good and pure, she should not be rewarded now.

18 posted on 03/03/2006 8:58:26 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

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Rosh Pina


Rosh Pina was settled in 1882 by a group of pioneers from Romania, making it the first Jewish village in the Upper Galilee in modern times. Rosh Pina's lands were purchased in 1878 by Jews from Tzfat, who tried unsuccessfully to earn their livelihood as farmers.

Arabs from neighboring villages frequently attacked Jewish traffic near the town. In 1938, Betar youth member Shlomo Ben Yosef took part in a retaliatory attack. He was captured by British officers and became the first freedom fighter hung by the British. Rosh Pina residents honored his memory by setting up a monument in the local cemetery.

Rosh Pina presently numbers 1860 residents.

For information on Rosh Pina in the Partnership 2000: Palm Beach - Rosh Pina


20 posted on 03/03/2006 9:00:17 AM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: television is just wrong
Now that she is a mother, and wife, we, including God are supposed to ignore all that.
Not really taking her side, but...

Acts 22:3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
Acts 22:4 And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.
Acts 22:5 As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished.
Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
Acts 22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Acts 22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
Acts 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

And then in another place, speaking about riches:

Mat 19:25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

I'll agree that I've seen no evidence of change, however, It is not for us to Ignore or not to Ignore when it come to her relationship to God.
And, if there ever comes a time when she truly does repent, I've got it on pretty good word that God will not hold it against her either.

Cordially,
GE
21 posted on 03/03/2006 9:02:51 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: West Coast Conservative

At least her timing is looking about right.


22 posted on 03/03/2006 9:05:43 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Madonna gets loonier as the years go by, doesn't she? What a banana.


23 posted on 03/03/2006 9:05:53 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: West Coast Conservative

skank


24 posted on 03/03/2006 9:08:34 AM PST by philsfan24
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To: conservativewasp

The Messiah, (Jesus) was very considerate of a whore, (Mary Magdelene).


25 posted on 03/03/2006 9:10:04 AM PST by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: West Coast Conservative
Two years ago, she took the Hebrew name Esther

She should have chosen Lilith.

26 posted on 03/03/2006 9:10:28 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: West Coast Conservative

O Madonna, go shave your head. And then boil it.


27 posted on 03/03/2006 9:11:49 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 18-22)
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To: conservativewasp

>>>I don't think the Messiah will appreciate being greeted by a whore.<<< LOL.

But I wouldn't be so sure about that.

RD


28 posted on 03/03/2006 9:13:03 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: West Coast Conservative
Should be hard to find her house in Rosh Pina.


29 posted on 03/03/2006 9:14:13 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: West Coast Conservative

While I am sure Madonna's wanting to live in Israel is not a subject high on Israel's list of priotities (even real estate priorities), Madonna is going to have to do a little something extra to reverse her image.....like starring in a remake of FUNNY GIRL.


30 posted on 03/03/2006 9:16:09 AM PST by willyboyishere (You'd better begin living the way you think, or you'll soon be thinking the way you live> Brecht)
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To: conservativewasp
I don't think the Messiah will appreciate being greeted by a whore.
Maybe she just has her religions confused...
Weren't the terrorist expecting 7 virgins?
Doesn't she think she is "Like a Virgin"?

Kinda reminds one of the used car sales like "Like New".

GE
31 posted on 03/03/2006 9:16:20 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: West Coast Conservative

She about 2000 years too late.


32 posted on 03/03/2006 9:16:34 AM PST by Busywhiskers ("The fool says in his heart, There is no God." -Psalms)
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To: television is just wrong
She is just as liable to be forgiven her sins as any of us, I hope she is repentant, but I think the one she waits for IS coming.

A word to the wise, the Antichrist will come in peace, claiming to be Christ returning. He will not come with horns on his head, or come into power through destruction and war, but he will be able to do "miracles". He will obtain his "kingdom" through flatteries. He will talk of peace, saving the world from itself, and of course his love for us. He has always wanted to be the saviour of this world, and he will mimic what people want him to be. He may fulfill what Christians believe they are looking for, what Jews are waiting for, and the Mahdi of the Muslims, all in one package.

33 posted on 03/03/2006 9:16:49 AM PST by jeremiah (The biggest threat to Americas survival today, meth usage.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

#29---Ah, yes, the Kabbalah-shaped pool!


34 posted on 03/03/2006 9:17:25 AM PST by willyboyishere (You'd better begin living the way you think, or you'll soon be thinking the way you live> Brecht)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'm no fan of Madonna, but at least she isn't part of the "Israel is evil" crowd that most of her libbies friends probably belong to. It would be nice if she would openly support Israel, and not just the kaballah-lite gang.


35 posted on 03/03/2006 9:17:42 AM PST by Cecily
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To: West Coast Conservative
Rabbi: Non-Jewish Kabbalah Study is Good, if Done Correctly

16:20 Mar 01, '06 / 1 Adar 5766
By Hillel Fendel

Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, the Chief Rabbi of the city that what was once the Kabbalah center of the world, Tzfat, says that Kabbalah studies for Gentiles is "positive," if done in the proper manner.

Speaking with Arutz-7 today, Rabbi Eliyahu said, "I believe that the study of the Zohar by Gentiles, as in the common phenomenon we see today with Gentile musicians and entertainers studying Kabbalah, is a positive phenomenon - as long as it is done in the right way." He explained that it should not just be a matter of curiosity, but of a genuine search for the "Torah of life."

Rabbi Eliyahu addressed the matter in light of the jump in sales of books of Kabbalah. The Manufacturers Association informed Arutz-7 that in light of the world-wide awakening to Kabbalah around the world, exports of such books have tripled of late. Thirty-five million dollars worth of Kabbalah texts were exported around the world from Israel in 2005, and professional printers are in short supply relative to the continuing demand for holy books from Israel.

"This is exactly what Elijah the Prophet told [1st-century C.E. Zohar author] Rabbe Shimon bar Yochai and his group when they began writing the Zohar," Rabbi Eliyahu said, "that in the course of time, people will begin making a living from this work. Of course, Elijah was referring to the fact that it would have a spiritual effect on those who study it, but it can be understood this way as well."

"It is told about King David," the rabbi said, "that when he wanted to bring people closer to an authentic Torah life, he would teach them the 'secrets of Torah.' In general, to see people searching for spirituality is a positive and important development."

Meir Bar-El, Deputy Director of the Manufacturers Association, said that total exports of Jewish holy books in 2005 grew by 119% over the year before, and totaled $92 million - 70% of all book exports from Israel. He said that Israel is lacking in training courses for professional printers.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=99455

36 posted on 03/03/2006 9:18:28 AM PST by Reborn
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To: West Coast Conservative
You go Grrrrrl!


37 posted on 03/03/2006 9:19:39 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: 4bbldowndraft

except, she has never said, "my bad". at least that I know of.


38 posted on 03/03/2006 9:19:45 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: sportutegrl
"The Messiah, (Jesus) was very considerate of a whore, (Mary Magdelene)."

Well put. Although there is plenty of reason to debate whether Mary Magdalene was a whore, you are exactly right about his consideration. Perhaps some of our over-zealous Freepisees ought to do a little research. John 4: 4-42 would be a great place to start. (The woman at the well.)
39 posted on 03/03/2006 9:21:06 AM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: conservativewasp
one of the used car sales like line "Like New".

Note to self....PROOF READ!
40 posted on 03/03/2006 9:21:57 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: newheart

""The Messiah, (Jesus) was very considerate of a whore, (Mary Magdelene)."

Well put. Although there is plenty of reason to debate whether Mary Magdalene was a whore, you are exactly right about his consideration. Perhaps some of our over-zealous Freepisees ought to do a little research. John 4: 4-42 would be a great place to start. (The woman at the well.)"

Nah, she is claiming to be Jewish now. So, that means she does NOT recognize Jesus...thus he will not recognize her. 144,000 Jews will recognize him on his return.


41 posted on 03/03/2006 9:23:55 AM PST by MadeInAmerica ( - Tested in the Middle East)
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To: GrandEagle

Lordy, lordy, lordy!

Time to pray for the Children of Israel.


42 posted on 03/03/2006 9:23:57 AM PST by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: sportutegrl
Very well put.
However, he did tell her to "go and sin no more".

GE
43 posted on 03/03/2006 9:24:11 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: sportutegrl

That's true, but he also told her to sin no more. Mary Magdelene completely changed her life around. I don't see that in Madogga. She's the same old despicable hag she always has been. She may have "religion", but she's still clueless about the truth of it all.


44 posted on 03/03/2006 9:24:25 AM PST by derllak
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To: jeremiah

What is wrong with straigntening this mess out ourselves. Why do we have to wait for God to come back. Maybe he wants us for once to handle things without his hand in it. I know he is all powerful and all knowing.

It is like when my sister was told by my aged father not to bother going to college because God is coming back. I brought to her attention, that God might want to come back to some intelligent life...

Today this same sister is on welfare, with four children and NO husband thanks to my Dad telling her don't bother God is coming back.

When I hear this about God coming back stuff, I want to just scream.

I have heard it all my life. My mother inlaw heard it all her life. The dentist, when she was 6 told her father don't bother with braces, God is coming back and it is a waste of money for you. She is now almost 80, wears dentures, and is still waiting for God to come back.


45 posted on 03/03/2006 9:27:01 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Modonna, I understand had issues with her original catholic faith. I would imagine that she probably had some nuns that clobbered her big time. I am sure she deserved every blow.


46 posted on 03/03/2006 9:29:07 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: MadeInAmerica

I may be in the minority but I have seen her commitment to the Kaballah and to Judaism as a step (however mis-guided) in the right direction. If I were her and had to face the kind of vitriol spewed about her by many who call themselves Christians, I'd be reluctant to become a Christian myself.

She is looking for the Messiah. Can the Freepisees say as much? Have they prayed for her or just decided that God intends for them to make snide, condemning comments about someone Jesus also died for--even if she does not know it now.


47 posted on 03/03/2006 9:32:38 AM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Be careful what you want, Madge, because you just might get it.


48 posted on 03/03/2006 9:33:40 AM PST by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but some people are just gluttons.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Isn't this the airhead that condemns the overthrow of Saddam Hussein? Is that contrary to "Kabbalah" as well?


49 posted on 03/03/2006 9:34:04 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatata 'el ha'aron 'et ha`eidut 'asher 'ettein 'eleykha.)
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To: television is just wrong

The events you describe are the faults of the people that did nothing to advance themselves, not Gods. We are supposed to work things out ourselves, we should always advance in knowledge. Whoever said that God is coming, and we should just slack off is an idiot. The God I know, rewards effort, hates slackers, and does not reward "do nothings". The ancient nation Israel, is told that God is with them. He is their sword and shield, but they still field an army, and fight their own battles. He gives them victory through effort, not victory for staying home and praying for it to happen.


50 posted on 03/03/2006 9:34:38 AM PST by jeremiah (The biggest threat to Americas survival today, meth usage.)
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