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AP: AC-130 Gunships Returning to Iraq
Yahoo/AP ^ | March 3, 2006 | CHARLES J. HANLEY

Posted on 03/03/2006 10:41:34 AM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

AN AIR BASE IN IRAQ - The U.S. Air Force has begun moving heavily armed AC-130 airplanes — the lethal "flying gunships" of the Vietnam War — to a base in Iraq as commanders search for new tools to counter the Iraqi resistance, The Associated Press has learned.

An AP reporter saw the first of the turboprop-driven aircraft after it landed at the airfield this week. Four are expected.

The Iraq-based special forces command controlling the AC-130s, the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, said it would have no comment on the deployment. But the plan's general outline was confirmed by other Air Force officers, speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Military officials warned that disclosing the location of the aircraft's new base would violate security provisions of rules governing media access to U.S. installations.

The four-engine gunships, whose home base is Hurlburt Field in Florida, have operated over Iraq before, flying from airfields elsewhere in the region. In November 2004, air-to-ground fire from AC-130s supported the U.S. attack that took the western city of Fallujah from insurgents. Basing the planes inside Iraq will cut hours off their transit time to reach suspected targets.

The left-side ports of the AC-130s, 98-foot-long planes that can slowly circle over a target for long periods, bristle with a potent arsenal — 40 mm cannon that can fire 120 rounds per minute, and big 105 mm cannon, normally a field artillery weapon. The plane's latest version, the AC-130U, known as "Spooky," also carries Gatling gun-type 20 mm cannon.

The gunships were designed primarily for battlefield use to place saturated fire on massed troops. In Vietnam, for example, they were deployed against North Vietnamese supply convoys along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, where the Air Force claimed to have destroyed 10,000 trucks over several years.

The use of AC-130s in places like Fallujah, urban settings where insurgents may be among crowded populations of noncombatants, has been criticized by human rights groups.

The slow-moving AC-130s also offer an intelligence gathering advantage in the Iraq fight: sophisticated long-range video, infrared and radar sensors.

American commanders are marshaling all available tools to detect the Iraqi insurgents' stealthy operations, especially at night, when they plant roadside bombs targeting American road patrols and convoys.

The Air Force's senior tactical commander in Iraq said the AC-130 can be both a high-intensity and low-intensity weapon.

"It's got tons of guns, and it's got all kinds of stuff on it that can be applied to the problems you have," Brig. Gen. Frank Gorenc, who refused to discuss the current AC-130 deployment, said in an AP interview.

That "stuff" includes "the ability to take these high-tech pods and to use them to find guys planting (bombs) and to find other nefarious activity," he said.

The Predator drone — the MQ-1 unmanned aerial vehicle — has been a reconnaissance workhorse in Iraq, but Air Force officers say they don't have enough to meet demand for missions. The fiscal 2007 Defense Department budget proposed last month by the Bush administration envisions spending $1.6 billion on additional reconnaissance drones.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ac130s; c130; gnfi; iraq; oif; traitormedia; usaf
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To: Spktyr

Correction - the AC-47D's actual nickname or call-sign was "Spooky".

http://www.theaviationzone.com/factsheets/ac47.asp

No outpost, village, or position under Spooky's protection was ever lost to the enemy.


41 posted on 03/03/2006 11:04:10 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

ac130 short vid here: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/67890/ac130_hercules_gunship/?itemID=67890&referrerID=&langID=en


42 posted on 03/03/2006 11:04:58 AM PST by Toby06 (Check out my revised profile!)
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To: Spktyr

I thought that the first of the AC-130s was introduced during the Vietnam war.


43 posted on 03/03/2006 11:05:37 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

http://www.guardian.co.uk/flash/0,5860,575181,00.html

Sorry, I don't know how to post a link. This URL has
an intersting graphic showing the firepower.


44 posted on 03/03/2006 11:06:20 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Could throw a rock in it..........


45 posted on 03/03/2006 11:06:21 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
The original Cone Of Fire:


46 posted on 03/03/2006 11:06:51 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I was just down at Hurlburt Field recently on C130 business, as a matter of fact. Iraqi insurgents probably will need several additional changes of underwear.


47 posted on 03/03/2006 11:07:06 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Thank goodness the Associated Press continues to do free intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance work for the enemy.


48 posted on 03/03/2006 11:07:49 AM PST by jpl ("We don't negotiate with terrorists, we put them out of business." - Scott McClellan)
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To: Red Badger

Man, it sucks that The Army no longer has any decent ocean-view bases. Must be nice ;)


49 posted on 03/03/2006 11:07:49 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Red Badger
They are based at Hurlburt but the testing is done at Eglin. Technically Hurlburt is a separate base but it is totally surrounded by Eglin or maybe some private land too.

When I was growing up, we called it field 9, some locals still do.

50 posted on 03/03/2006 11:08:06 AM PST by yarddog
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To: eastforker
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51 posted on 03/03/2006 11:08:30 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: All

Does anyone anticipate more "shock and awe" to try to finish this off and begin troop withdrawal in a few months?
I don't think it's too far fetched considering the approaching elections.


52 posted on 03/03/2006 11:08:54 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"-Samuel Johnson to the Dems of today.)
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To: babaloo

What, you don't think sending someone who's planting an IED a 105mm greeting card is a good idea?

The best part is that Spectre or Spooky can hang around for *hours*. Long endurance platform, baby. :)


53 posted on 03/03/2006 11:09:52 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Candor7

Oh I understand. Just saying in the 70's many refered to the two as puff and super puff.


54 posted on 03/03/2006 11:10:48 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Nothing is more beautiful in a dark sky than an AC-130 in action destroying an enemy.


55 posted on 03/03/2006 11:11:50 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mwherold/AC130_Gunship.wmv

Video of an AC-130 inviting a bunch of bad guys to the dirt nap party. I like the one guy who thinks he's hiding in the field, but when they're done, they go back to "collect" him.


56 posted on 03/03/2006 11:12:53 AM PST by Sax
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To: SJSAMPLE

The Army has a Ranger Camp here and they have something in Destin, too.....


57 posted on 03/03/2006 11:13:16 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Military officials warned that disclosing the location of the aircraft's new base would violate security provisions of rules governing media access to U.S. installations.

IOW, leak this you media maggots, and you'll be treading water all the way back to the States.

The press shouldn't even have to be told this, damnfools...!

58 posted on 03/03/2006 11:14:01 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Casey Sheehan, thank you for your service. I'm proud of you. Even if your own mother isn't.)
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To: Red Badger

My neighbor is an AC-130 gunship captain, based out of Hurlburt Field. He just returned from a 90-day TDY in Iraq, and he's involved in the base transfer discussed in the article. 130's fly out of Hurlburt field, along with MH-53 Pave Low helicopters (special ops). Eglin is mostly fighter jets (F16, F18, F14, etc.). Our house sits about 3 miles from Eglin's southern bombing range, where the 130's practice. We can see as many as 3 different gunships circling and firing at the same time from our front yard. It's really cool when they drop flares and shoot the big guns.


59 posted on 03/03/2006 11:14:50 AM PST by highimpact
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To: Red Badger

The 3" scar on my lower back reminds me well ...


60 posted on 03/03/2006 11:15:24 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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